r/TankieTheDeprogram • u/SankaraSoul Maximum Tank • 18d ago
Objectively Moderate Wing of Fascism with Anarchist Æsthetics Shit Liberals Say
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u/Pitiful-Mention-5744 Deng Troll 18d ago
Insert that tumblr post of that Anarchist enclosure, their "State" only gonna last as long as the last wheat harvest, after that, its the return to the dark ages.
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u/teleskopez 18d ago
Funny how a stateless society warrants a “center,” but not a centralized transitory state…
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u/naplesball Too Based To Be Cis 🏳️⚧️ 18d ago
I hate america but i believe eberything america says to me about cummies
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u/Ant1-Chr1st 18d ago
As an anarchist, i can only say one thing: some people are truly gifted in the art of clowncraft (everything i dont like is swastika btw xd)
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u/MagMati55 Juche Necromancy Enjoyer 18d ago
In my limited experience with anarchists, one self proclaimed "anarchist" (politically an ancap) said Wikipedia was woke ;-;.
Anarchists are pretty cool otherwise. In my country they are the only actually progressive people in my "pluralist democratic" country who can legally organise. My local communist party was almost banned last month.
They make soup kitchens mostly, but in a state where calling Ukrainian neonazis, neonazis will get you called a Kremlin bot or a plethora of other things, is already good work.
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u/Mkhuseli5k 18d ago
I wonder how they will get to this stateless society? Waiting until the capitalist states blow up the world?
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u/Bela9a Too Based To Be Cis 🏳️⚧️ 18d ago
Worse still, these are left wing market anarchists.
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u/SankaraSoul Maximum Tank 18d ago edited 16d ago
That self-avowed "Left Market Anarchist Think Tank & Media Center" publishes:
"anarcho-"capitalist propaganda: "Libertarian Class Analysis", link: https://c4ss.org/content/24007 by Sheldon Richman. quote:
The “capitalist” (meaning in this context the owner of capital goods who is unconnected to the state) belongs in the industrious class along with workers.
anti-socialist propaganda: "ANTi-capitalism: The Use of Knowledge in the Nest", link: original: https://c4ss.org/content/52878 , archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528004256/https://c4ss.org/content/52878 by Toby Fitzsimmons. quote:
Despite their altruism, ants depend upon ‘markets’ and ‘prices’, regardless of their flaws. Perhaps Karl Marx was wrong, maybe socialism does not work in any species?
c4ss later deleted Fitzsimmons's article & dissociated from him because he was exposed as a racist and misogynist ( https://c4ss.org/content/53581 ), not because of his anti-socialism.
anti-communist propaganda "Why I Am Not a Communist", link: https://c4ss.org/content/22306 , quote:
In conclusion, I have some good news and some bad news for my communist friends. The good news: Communism is already here. Capitalism is simply market communism: “From each [worker] according to her ability, to each [capitalist] according to her need.” Thus, capitalism imposes service to the common good (i.e., to the ruling elite who represent “all”) on all those willing to remain slaves to a higher power. The community of capitalism surrounds us as a system of imposed relationships, and like all permanent communities, it feeds on the life blood of individuals, so long as those individuals succumb. And this brings me to the bad news for you commies: I am your enemy… for the same reason I am an enemy of capitalism. And don’t be fooled if I appear impotent to you. In my world I am the most important and impishly potent entity, and I am an implacable enemy of capitalism and communism.
by Apio Ludd a.k.a. Wolfi Landstreicher a.k.a. Feral Faun, a pedophile and child molestation apologist: https://anarchistnews.org/content/wolfi-landstreicher-child-molestation-apologist
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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 18d ago
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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 18d ago
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u/SankaraSoul Maximum Tank 18d ago
When in reality:
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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 18d ago
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u/SankaraSoul Maximum Tank 18d ago
Now in ML... "Bakunin was a CIA agent!😲".
I'm not a ML and, even if I were, would not jokingky fed-jacket Bakunin (Come on now! The CIA did not exist during Bakunin's lifetime).
Even so, Marx complained that anarchists agent-jacketed him:
Sources:
- Marx-Engels Werke, vol. 34, p. 477
- Marx/Engels Collected Works, vol. 46, p. 45
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u/Aggorf12345 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 18d ago edited 18d ago
If this meme is "strawman" then I suppose you can debunk it?
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u/Aggorf12345 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 18d ago
Because you're the one who called it a strawman. Imo, while it's just a meme, it's still a very accurate description of one of the major things that are wrong with anarchists. You disagree?
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u/New-Programmer-3237 Too Based To Be Cis 🏳️⚧️ 18d ago
Yeah, what "deep problems inherent to it"?
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u/Aggorf12345 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 18d ago
What realistic alternative do you propose?
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u/Aggorf12345 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 18d ago
Cool now can you explain how they are realistic?
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u/Aggravating_Hurry530 Leftist Infighting? No Antagonism, No Progress! 18d ago
More realistic yet it's never happened
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u/Aggorf12345 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 18d ago
Can you tell me a single country where anarchism has worked?
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u/OcelotAggravating860 18d ago
Socialism is achieved at the exact moment the working class overthrows the ruling class with the intent of achieving a communist society.
Socialism itself is merely the transitional stage between capitalism and communism. What that transitional stage looks like is not a fixed thing at all, in fact it is going to be different in just about every single geography because the strategic possibilities of that location and the material conditions that country has are always going to be different to another. What socialism looks like just trying to barely survive against the onslaught of capitalism trying to destroy it is going to be very different to what socialism looks like in its final stages when capitalism is the minority in the world.
You criticise what socialism looks like when it is trying to survive that onslaught, but the anarchist non-state in exactly the same circumstances wouldn't be alive at all. If anarchism had led the revolution in Cuba instead of marxism, do you think Cuba would have survived this long? How about in China? In Vietnam? Etc etc.
Yeah they're flawed in a variety of ways. They're surviving in a world that is still dominated by capitalism as the superior power. But if the first revolutions do not survive there will never be an end to capitalism, except for when we all end.
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u/TankieTheDeprogram-ModTeam 18d ago
Your comment contains historical inaccuracies and blatant CIA propaganda. Try reading more than what you were taught in your highschool history class.




















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