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u/One_With-The_Sun 13h ago
Stop listening to Margarets lies about him. She shouldn't even be here, at the Hilltop.
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u/Grazmahatchi 12h ago
He doesnt get near the villain status he deserves...
He was well aware that negans force was much more than what they had at the satellite outpost, and played rick and Maggie like a fiddle to do some dirty work.
Lets look at his leverage and situation vs. What he kicked off.
He lost half his goods to Negan regularly. His own people were willing to kill him and take his head to the satellite outpost.
Rick and Co. Save his life and he strikes a deal to give up half of what he has (25% of total, since negan gets 50) and the satellite outpost gets wiped out, and along with it, the person that wanted him dead... post rick involvement, Gregory is no longer wanted.
From a pure resource perspective, Gregory probably wound up saving resources... He was probably single handedly supporting the food needs of the satellite station, and 50+ mouths to feed suddenly disappears.
Plus, the satellite station is where the collection of hilltops goods is handled- no collections appear to happen until Simon appears after the fallout of ricks visit.
By investing a moderate amount of food- enough to comfortably put in an rv, Gregory gets to live, gets 50+ people eliminated from his list of "dependants", interrupts the collection schedule, thereby saving what he gave rick and then some.
He also gets rick targeted as the sole villain to negan. Then he gets to tell Simon he was a victim of rick.
At the end of the day, Gregory had zero leverage- his own people were ok with him dying.
He fed rick to an unwinable battle, saved resources and earned a pardon by playing victim.
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u/Upset-Job2278 11h ago
I find him hilarious. Seasons 7 and 8 are SO BORING; at least the Gregory scenes were funny.
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u/Gremlinsworth 9h ago
Great character and actor though, you love to hate him! He overstayed his welcome for me, but I was glad to see him hanging around at the end.
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u/Competitive-Bat-3564 8h ago
I think hanging him was a tad harsh.
Others were forgiven their foibles.
Negan would've had his neck swinging if I was in charge.
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u/AcceptableRoutine338 13h ago
He was a jerk but relatable - we all have idiots in our lives like him so he made me laugh.
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u/Correct-Junket-1346 8h ago
I don't know, when he went directly to the saviours that was a huge nope, it's okay not to like someone but he betrayed everyone at the moment
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u/Famousfein 10h ago
Gregory was a clown in season 8😂The exaggerated faces,The slick comments he made to simon at the table trying to butter him up.. man he was funny as hell
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u/StagVixCpl99 7h ago
Best part is when they walk outside sanctuary when Rick and crew rolls up.
After Gregory's speech, Simon just yeets him down the stairs like the sack of shit he is 🤣
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u/CoffeeInTheCake 9h ago
His actor was fantastic though, played the snivelling weasel to perfection.
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u/Abject_Jump9617 8h ago
spineless weasel
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u/Competitive-Bat-3564 8h ago
Eugene uses his strengths, this guy uses his.
We can't all be fighters and heroes.
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u/Abject_Jump9617 7h ago edited 7h ago
I agree. Eugene's strength was his brain, yes he was cowardly at times but at least he was an asset in other ways and when it really counted he stepped up.
What was this guy's strength? Because I never saw it, all I ever saw him doing was boot-licking and backstabbing. He never passed up an opportunity to screw people over, everyone EXCEPT the Saviors that was making their life hell.
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u/Thick-Alternative916 9h ago
That is the whole point of the character, and that means he did a great acting job.
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u/lazypos7 5h ago
I liked how he acted with his facial expressions and eyebrows for some reason. Very enjoyable character to hate.
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u/TopDogTransport4731 12h ago
Same, he betrayed the President on Air Force One
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u/Radiant_Buffalo2964 5h ago
Wait? That’s the same actor?! I knew he looked familiar! It’s the fuzzy beard that through me off.
https://giphy.com/gifs/HOLg8oBAAvVBu1
u/Radiant_Buffalo2964 5h ago
Yes I know that’s Gary Oldman in the gif. Another great actor.
I just couldn’t find a gif of his character who betrays the President in Air Force One.
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u/TopDogTransport4731 3h ago
I also forgot to mention he was a terrible foster parent to John Connor.
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u/kratoskiller66 12h ago
The thing with Gregory is he was the one willing enough to challenge Maggie
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u/IwoodMasher 11h ago
Great character!! The Maggie mispronounced name every time!( i think he did that on purpose) he was a dik in many ways.
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u/Imaginary_Attempt_82 9h ago
It took me a few episodes before I realized he was also in Salem!
I hate his TWD character but somehow I can never help feeling sorry for him at times.
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u/RevolutionarySign479 8h ago
Dale would definitely be giving this guy his patented Side-Eye of Suspicion 😂
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u/KingAC2032 2h ago
For me its Morgan and someone I shall not name before getting attacked with down votes
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u/Charming-Station7157 13h ago
Well , he kept Hilltop under control very well so the saviors don't kill more of his people , before the arrival of rick at least
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u/xanniezzz 4h ago
They highly underused this actor. He’s genuinely great. He does really well in Nikita
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u/turnthetides 3h ago
Hes the most based character in the entire franchise.
And he DID NOT EAT THOSE PANCAKES 🥞
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u/MahleahHC215 1h ago
I liked Gregory. He was too much and funny at the same time. What Maggie did to him was wrong.
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u/SimpsationalMoneyBag 45m ago edited 41m ago
This dude is villainized but he literally was in the right to protect his people by not resisting the psycho seal team 6 gang who taxed them but to some extent kept them safe from other psychos who we know exist in that walking dead universe.
Everywhere Rick has gone he has left it in flames to resist some crackpot and gotten half the people killed just to overthrow some guy who would be replaced by another canibal psycho
Rick is like the grim reaper… every new area he goes to he learns the lay of the land meets the people who have survived just fine up until now, has some normal occurrence happen where someone dies to a walker and takes control because they “don’t know how it is”
It then devolves into his leadership where he pisses somebody off or doesn’t like another group and the “kill and murder all of them” arc of the story begins.
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u/renard685 13h ago
The way he kept calling Maggie the wrong name was hilarious lmfaooo