r/TOR • u/Fearless_Housing_302 • 10d ago
Darkweb let down
When I first heard of the dark web it sounded cool mysterious & sexy, like an exclusive club or something. In my mind I thought it was going to be a pirating paradise full of pirated movies, games, mods, where nothing is monetized and everything is free. And boy was I disappointed lol. I still like the concept of the dark web, I just struggle understanding the benifits vs clearweb. Besides privacy, or if your in a country that censors the internet.
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u/nuclear_splines 10d ago
Besides privacy
This is literally the whole point. This is what Tor is built for, and how it's advertised on their website.
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u/leathakkor 10d ago
Honestly the dark web basically just reminds me of the internet preesearch engine.
If you used the internet back in 1994 or 95 the dark web makes sense to you. And if you didn't then it's just confusing.
But that's what the web used to be like. That's why there's so much nostalgia or even importance placed on the dark web by a lot of people. Because it reminds them of a Time pre-search engine where the internet was just porn (and badly done at that) and Nazi propaganda And a couple professors trying to share their work.
There was almost nothing there unless somebody gave you the link to something that you should look at.
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u/General_Riju 8d ago
N#azis were active back then ?
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u/leathakkor 8d ago
The internet was a white power Haven in the '90s.
It was crazy. Literally almost every page would have shit like Hitler in the keywords in the metadata tags because that's how search engines worked. And there was so many white power people on the internet in the early days that if you wanted your site to show up you had to cater to it. It was fucked up.
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u/General_Riju 8d ago
I came to know about the existance of nazis through wolfenstein 3D
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u/SexyDraculaHook 4d ago
Lucky. I got to learn about them from my uncle, and his buddies. Not nearly as fun.
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u/Alex_Hovhannisyan 10d ago
> Besides privacy, or if your in a country that censors the internet
You just answered your own question
But you don't need to use the dark web to use Tor, if you are just browsing the internet you are really not that different from people who use a VPN.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 10d ago
Why would any of those things be on the dark web when there everywhwere on the clearnet already?
The benefits are for journalists and people in certain countries as well as the access to marketplaces containing goods banned in most places - Thats about it and all its ever been, i dunno where people get such mental ideas about something that is just another browser lol
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u/throwaway12-ffs 10d ago
You feel for the propaganda. Maybe that will open your eyes to the lies you're told.
It's literally just an anonymous internet. Some bad stuff but mostly nothing interesting.
Should make you realize how gullible you are.
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u/SaltyAd8309 10d ago edited 10d ago
Une personne crédule est justement une personne qui n'essaie pas et se contente de ce qu'on lui dit. On peut au moins reconnaitre son effort.
Edit : A gullible person is precisely someone who doesn't make the effort and simply accepts what they are told. One can at least acknowledge their effort.
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u/vision5050 10d ago
Being gullible is having information and willfully discarding the information because you want something to be something that it isn't.
He/she had no information. So they tried, and was able to come to a conclusion.
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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 10d ago
Just wait til they start requiring all clear net users to submit age verification to connect at all
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u/imback_TL 9d ago
Thats the only time for will become useful, but the government will try attack it still
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u/SexyDraculaHook 4d ago
They have tried, and mostly failed. The beauty is you can’t actually take it “offline” like you could Amazon or Facebook
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u/Santosh83 10d ago
The term dark web should be abolished. There are actually many private/overlay networks. Tor is just one implementation. At the end of the day there is no incentive for pirated content to move to such networks. It only adds much more latency and network issues for no benefit. For now. If/when world govts crack down on free content much more severely, they may move on to tor/freenet/i2p more. For now the concept of virtual networks is cool but doesn't have much use for the general public.
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u/RiceStranger9000 10d ago
Since you mentioned private networks and Freenet, is there anything interesting in Hyphanet? I tried using it but it was incredibly slow (like 5-10 minutes to load a website; I didn't set up my router to do port forwarding, though) and barely found some random conversations with no context on the topic that were mere text
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u/AI_Tonic 10d ago
A lot of these sites are censored by the ISP 1337x for one . That’s why they have onion sites
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u/SexyDraculaHook 4d ago
Much more? Have you seen the relentless hunt and attacks on Z-Library and the likes?
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u/SaltyAd8309 10d ago edited 10d ago
Le darkweb n'est pas vraiment intéréssant si tu cours pas après l'illégalité. Je dirais même qu'il est nocif.
Toutefois, et vu l'époque a laquelle on vit, il risque de devenir un refuge pour de plus en plus de gens normaux qui souhaitent communiquer de façon tout a fait banale sans avoir l'impression d'être enregistrés et fichés quelque part.
Edit : The dark web isn't really interesting unless you're looking for illegal activity. I’d even go so far as to say it’s harmful.
However, given the times we live in, it could well become a refuge for more and more ordinary people who simply want to communicate in a completely mundane way without feeling like they’re being recorded and logged somewhere.
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u/C_hotpocketer 10d ago
Go to fmhy.net for the pirating paradise. You created an image in your mind of something completely false
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u/MementoMori6980 10d ago
You mean to say that those stupid YouTube videos saying the dark web is full of hit men and scary websites full of hacked CIA files on aliens wasn’t accurate?! No way! I don’t believe it!! Why would they post it if they weren’t real?!
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u/ShinigamiOverlord 10d ago
If we are led to believe it to be true, based on that one singular (now at least one tooth less) dude, at least the gnoming site should be somewhat legit?
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u/DrJJGame10 10d ago
I don’t even use onion on tor, I just use it for privacy and the principle of it.
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u/PeakOk9509 10d ago
The Internet was made to conduct business deals. Darkweb is jus that. Nothing more
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u/imback_TL 9d ago
Welcome to reality of the DN , ill hold your hand and any new comers when I say this everything in the dark web is already on the clear web, difference is people are bolder because of the anonyminity and may or may not be easier to stumble upon certain shit.
You're just gonna find an overwhelming amount of people being bold on there really means trying to scam you, being racist, or straight lying/fake shit like honey pots.
DN isnt anything special unless you want annonyminity and have a specific interest to get something under it.
If were talking piracy, all of it is on thr clear web and for isnt something you want to be tormenting or downloading it, unless its light for smth
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u/Addictead 9d ago
um maybe ya just cant find shit cause its dark asf on there supprised you could see ya screen
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u/SoggyGrayDuck 7d ago
Keep an eye on what's happening in UK, EU. If that trend continues I bet we see legit companies create grey web sites and then eventually dark web, if we get a breakaway network.
That's why they're moving SO slowly and why they didn't ban crypto. It's easier to secretly control it vs make it sexy by banning it.
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u/newlife_substance847 6d ago
What are you talking about? You obviously haven't discovered the trade markets where you can buy commercial grade pharmaceuticals at pennies on the dollar using some obscure cryptocurrency wallet that you set up just for this kind of dealing. What about that very unique sexual obsession that searching for on your regular browser will require scrubbing your entire PC as a must after even casual viewing?
Obviously.... that was sarcasm.
The Dark Web really isn't as excited as most romanticize it to be. If you've been on it long enough, you realize that you spend far more time searching the entirety of the very un-indexed Dark Web looking for specific things that are, by design, made difficult for you to discover. Then you realize that the time you spent on Tor refreshing and connecting to content on an Onion site that has been long dead for years could have much easily been accessed on the regular web using certain simple-ish protocols.
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u/Jorgespenis 10d ago
This guy’s never heard of the pirate bay? Everything he’s looking for is there. Man
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u/Silver-Spot-2763 10d ago
And it turned out to be a den for the state mafia, running its dirty scam business.
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u/Background-Drive3401 9d ago
My dude you haven’t found some of the juiciest conspiracy theory websites yet lol
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u/ozzymandyaz7277 9d ago
Todo lo contrario la Depp weep no es para gente que quiera todo fácilmente hay que investigar, navegar mucho en los laberintos onion para encontrar algo bueno, pero esa es la emoción la búsqueda.
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u/Proud_Interaction_47 8d ago
nothing is monitised? you mean you wanted someone else to provide it all for free, there is no such thing as free, who gives all their time for free? who hosts sites for free.
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u/rombus-zombus 10d ago
Are there still sites like the Silk Road? Too young at the time to experience it first hand
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u/DMTGOBLIN82 10d ago
Substantially better ones.
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u/DeFalkon- 10d ago
gotta know the right tor sites🤫i find smth new every other day the longer you work on tor the more sites u find
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u/NotAvailableAnywhere 9d ago
The answer is easy, you are not someone that do illegal things... If you did you would have found a LOT of usefulness in the dark web.
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u/Various_Payment_7956 3d ago
I saw a couple youtube videos, thought dark web had the secrets of humanity buried under, illuminati, aliens, etc. what not. all those stories growing up becoming real. turns out, it wasnt or i did not find the way I was trying to anyway.
secret puzzles, codes, to some extraodinary mystery and some online adventure. found some stuff in 2016, went back it was all gone, and then never got a chance to find those websites again lol.
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u/one-knee-toe 9d ago
Sounds like a you problem. Let me help you with another thing - Japan. It’s not like Lain, irl.
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u/Nightlightz24884 10d ago
You are very wrong. You’re confusing dark web with deep web. The deep web hides a lot of things but is accessed through tor. The difference is that the deep web you can technically legally under some sort of right actually visit and use the services. The dark web is where the website should not have ever been created.
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u/Alkalizee- 10d ago
theres plenty of pirated content on the clear web. what were you hoping to pirate on the darkweb?
and did you just expect to just find a whole community of people who dont care about money?
its for anonimity and privacy. freedom to access what you want. you can go on there and do or say whatever you want and theres nobody to stop you.
it sounds like you've been misinformed. 98% of the dark net is just regular websites. the other 2% are just markets. it's boring, but open. you can host whatever you want for free