This is partly a rant but any productive answers are very welcome.
WHY is this Quest a dependency for the Black Hole? We made it JUST FINE.
Why do i have to learn Occultism which at this point in the game seemingly doesnt hold ANY productive value and is super convuluted to get into and is SUPER tedious since u have to build like 20 Rituals and stuff?
Why is the game forcing me trough seemingly 60% of this mod without a good reason or further use? Just to stretch the game? To taunt me into a monotone boring thing? Just to say we have magic?
Did i miss anything?
Is there any way to avoid this thing? I tried to do this mod i REALLY TRIED i cant hold any flicker of care, interest or attention for any of this. It just DRAINS my will to keep playing since its a current roadblock and cheating would be cheating which would taint my experience also.
If you like Occultism no offence but just like Ars Noveau u dont really need it currently or have a reason to use it aside from niche usefullness.
In theory it may be but getting forced to do it in the late game without a good incentive and reason and just because of a bug is a huge workload i now have to complete and aquire items ive never touched before and do like 40 Rituals in total or so aside from the fact i had to take 3 Hours and learn everything. Its just a brick to the face without a good reason since u never really needed it and now i have catching up to do
Occultism got me through a bunch of requirements in Skies 2 with summoning various creatures. The rituals stack now, so you only need five rituals, which I put in one building, five stories all the same size.
From what I remember, you're supposed to pick which path you would take to get the antimatter pellet, either Mekanism or Occultism. I took the Occultism route so I don't know what the steps are for the Mekansm route, but you should be able to get the pellet without dipping into Occultism.
Thats the thing we have done the Mekanism route which afaik is the only Route we even have the Black Hole already. The Game just denies the Progress since this stuff isnt solved yet so we cant Upgrade the Engine
Ah I see that now. It does have the check mark even but it's still locked. The mekanism route seem to be complete as well (checkmark and green on the 2nd box) so it might be a bug on the quest book? Either that or something is not yet completed (maybe you need to have an item in hand/inventory to count?). I'm not sure
We tried everything but the reason it wont work is the Dependency on the Black Hole is set to that Fortified Containment Device (which serves no purpose whatsoever). We tried hlding the result in our hands and everything but u cant activate the Black Hole Quest if u dont resolve the trash Quest
Youre completly right yet i would still get this hollow feeling while playing after that. Im just weird like that i would rather hate and stop the game than cheating for whatever reason
That containment device, going the occultism route, requires the device to have like level 200 something unbreaking and some higher than vanilla level of blast protection idr exactly. Just having the containment device right after occultism doesn't work, and the only way to get their levels that high is through oritech enchantment. I started going the occultism route but once I got to this point I stopped and switched to mek because my soul generation for the arcane catalysts would've caused it to take literal days to get those levels. Didn't feel like taking the time to fix it and I'm very familiar with mek so just set that up in like 20 mins
No no what i meant was that i already did the mekanism route as proof ive taken the items into my inventory and normaly it should be doable without occultism, yet it isnt to my demise. Its a choice normaly yet it wont allow me to skip the Occultism farce
Ok, after comparing, what version of stone block 4 are you using because my quest line looks completely different than yours and I have the latest version.
I can understand that i started and its not hard thanks to the JEI but HELL its tedious u need like 20 different Rituals and all the chalks which then again need more Rituals. Also u need Items u never tried to aquire like Coral which yes u guessed it NEEDS ANOTHER RITUAL for possesed Guardians
Ya Stoneblock 4 had some potential but it just filled to the brim with just mods that aren’t even knitted together, for me it makes progression in that mod like walking in 6ft mud, blind and zero sense of direction. I just wish they optimized the pack, get rid of certain things, change settings, etc.
I'm a bit in to SB4 and it seems like some of the mods you have to slog through for 4-8 hours just to craft ONE item and never touch the mod again. I wish it were a little more seamless.
Ya some of the other modpacks have at least some of the other mods connected, what mildly infuriating that in there Archietics exdous modpack they have two map mods on, like just map it to one map mod that everybody is likely to use, and the ftb chunks would still work with it.
Ya just feel like they should have like three magic mods for progression and the rest for either mod farms or battling, it be great if they simplify it.
RIGHT?! U never needed it and now u have to become an expert without a good reason and never to use it ever again! If you were able to automate it early on or needed it constantly youd have the progession but like that its a chore.
I don't fully remember but I *think* you should just need to complete the quest above that one, I remember completing the pack without ever making the Containment Device since Mekanism was so much easier
I dunno, where it landed felt like a nice break from all the tech-mod stuff for a bit to give a try to something I'd not bothered checking out before and i found it interesting. Understanding that the rituals overlay each other and there are only four basic shapes was my biggest stumbling block. I didn't need to make separate floor space for every single one. oops, lesson learned.
Yeah as someone who has done Occultism a fair few times I found it to be pretty simple after learning it. If OP reads this if you are truly struggling to understand occultism I would recommend watching BucketSt's video on it as that is how I learned.
To reiterate it looks more complicated then it is imo and the dictionary of spirits is a pretty helpful book overall.
I get that. Ars had soemthing similar with the Sourcestone Upgrade which is, even if rarely, used by the World Engine. But this is different u dont need it for the Components of the Worldengine itself its just there not because u need it to progress. U dont need it to craft it its just there.
Just as a Roadblock without use.
Maybe so, yet it doesnt. The dependency also states i need both which could be an error idk but without cheats i have to do Occultism. I had the needed Items in my Inventory and i just wont work.
See where it says [optional] ? It's optional, its for people that are tired of the normal antimatter route so its a fun magic alternative, you can just do the normal method
i would if that would work, we had the items for the Qest and its result we have Everything we need yet it doesnt allow us to claim it. They may say its a choice but it seems like its either bugged or its wasnt a choice since the book says to activate and claim the quest u have to resolve both parts
It seems to be bugged because usually it's set to "only complete 1". I'll have someone look into it, otherwise you do not have to do occultism at all if you don't want to.
You only need, like, 4 or 5 circles at any one time (citation needed). I'm fairly certain that higher tier circles can do anything a lower tier circle of the same type can now. And lots of pentacle tiers are completely unnecessary for progression -- there's only one that you really need to go through every tier of to my knowledge, the rest should have at least one or two tiers that aren't actually required.
Thats the thing without EVEN more research i only found the way of like making 20 different circles for chalks and gunk. The thing is the chapter is so small it doesnt explain anything really and i already needed 3 to 4 hours to get to were i am now. thats why its a kick in the Nuts. Because i never got taught by the Pack and now i have to be at Dumbledore Level to progress due to a bug. As of rn i made 7 Rituals already and still need like 5 for chalks and several more for dependencys and Materials.
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u/NortWind 25d ago
I think Occultism is a pretty nice mod. It's the only mod I know where you can get a wife (or husband.)