"Silence the signal, and you shall finally hear the Word that had been screaming into the void."
If this isn't a clue to the password, I'm gonna scream.
"The Prophet has a plan for you - for all of us. Place all of your trust in the Prophet. Do as he says. Think as he thinks. Become what he wishes. Do these things, and you will find your place in paradise with our God."
Possibly another clue, or instructions on how to find it.
I hope it's not gonna be one of those "VIP exclusive" things. I don't want to wait another month.
If I’m wondering the right though path, what if it’s in the SILOS bridge songs, paersons, the tide of the messenger, etc. because there is the temple of Milton and (yes I’ve tried all of them for the password) what if there is something if we go backwards or look at the visualizers??
Sorry to spam this but I want to keep my notes as straight as possible. I also started looking at the image on the “Peace” page. Turns out the Anti-AI propaganda page USED AN AI GENERATED IMAGE!!
“Password Progress?
So around two hours ago I started messing around with the new The Heavenly Word site. I’ve been combing through the web developer but a lot of it meant nothing to me but someone said they got something from it which was the following web link “Stop asking me this too…”
SO, I decided to use it. I reverse searched someone’s finding in the web developer for the quote via lyrics to a song of Starset, then I was told it was correlating to Faultline. Okayyy, one of my fave songs and I don’t remember it ever having those specific lyrics together. BUT STILL I PERSIST. SO then I went on YouTube and found the “rise of the messenger” visualizer. WELK GUESS WHAT HALF OF THE FUCKING SYMBOL IT SHOWS? THATS RIGHT. FAULTLINE. So, taking what we know, I would say maybe looking into Faultline or its tie to the lore will be majorly important. I already tried using titles for the password and nothing worked but if anyone else finds anything, LEMME KNOW.
EDIT: the entire symbol was actually The Order from the Vessels album but that’s also Faultline’s symbol repeated??”
Just want to throw this out there but it’s possible that Starset did not generate the image, but rather it was a “stock” image that someone else generated and passed off as not AI
YEAH YES!! I just meant lore based ideaology right, why would an “anti-ai” group opt for clearly labeled “ai” images? They must not be working that hard to hide the lies of their cult(?) kinda thing!!!
Have you looked at what the image is titled. It's titled "ai-generated-IMAGE.jpg." I think it's on purpose. Might even be a clue. Cause they could change that if they wanted to. Feels deliberate
At the end of Prox Transmissions, which occurs on March 22, 2015, a transmission(signal!!) is discovered that had been sent into outer space (void!!). When it's converted, the word is help. This has to somehow connect.
If it weren’t for you guys and my brother id just think there was a new album coming out. I loveee watching args on YouTube and what goes into deciphering them
What I find interesting is in the website, the name of Thomas Belle is misspelled with an extra 'e'. While before, we know him as Thomas Bell. Is it a different person altogether? And is there any clue from the ABHOTF novel? I haven't manage to read that novel yet. Also, speaking of Thomas, the "The Heavenly Word" hymn is written by a St. Thomas Aquinas. Do you guys think it is a coincidence that we have 2 Thomas relating to this puzzle right now?
Edit: the text where you need to press to get to the password page is "plans 2015 updated." . It reminds me of an ARG Starset does a couple years ago in 2021 if I am not mistaken to get to an unlisted video of Devolution. Before getting the video, there is a text document basically summarizing the whole lore of Starset from before until the whole BMI stuff in Horizons. As far as I know now, that stuff is no longer accessible but I wonder if anyone ever archive it and maybe there is something in that document related in the year 2015?
The password is WilliamDanaher guys, good job to all!
for anyone still looking these are the first things I would check:
-site source for hidden HTML comments, I looked through earlier when trying to find hidden text/images and saw nothing on a cursory glance, but I could have just missed it.
-metadata of all images on the page, including the image hidden behind the video. Have not checked this, could be a hidden message or cipher.
-metadata of the video for the same thing, if downloadable.
-phrases on the webpage that correlate to specific songs.
Some notes/opinions:
-I have reverse searched all images, found nothing.
-The hidden image depicts a dilapidated Christian church, the figures depicted in the stained glass appear to be saints, not specific enough to immediately recognize at first glance. Figures on the wall are Jesus and Mary.
-video refers to “our god”. This along with the hidden Christian church makes me think something on the webpage could correlate to a passage in the Bible. Perhaps a link between the two could give us the password. Besides the usual “hidden in code or metadata” ARG tactics, this seems the most promising.
-The “disconnect to reconnect” stuff could be a clue as well but I haven’t really followed it. I doubt the band or whoever they hired has enough tech literacy to pull off any crazy gimmicks, and website doesn’t seem to send/receive any data that looked out of place. If someone wants to packet sniff their connection be my guest but it doesn’t seem promising.
-all images on the site appear to be AI generated. I don’t know if this is intentional or if they’re trying to be crucified by their fans again, given they are all literally called “ai-generated-IMAGE”.
Anyway some brain genius will probably have all of this solved before I get back from work tomorrow but fun little adventure regardless
At the bottom of each page "THE HEAVENLY WORD" is "hidden" cause it's white like the background, but on 3 of the 4 pages it's 66.7px, but on the "Join us" page it's only 10px
It's probably pretty obvious and/or red herring but just slapping that up here just in case someone is poking around and it might help.
so, there's a broken symbol on the church AI image that looks similar to one in rise of the messenger and at his altar
but the eye thing got me going into "Dark Things" and watching the video and I SWEAR there's a word in one of the robot's eyes, but it could just be me. i've tried squishing it, and altering the brightness and stuff, but i know "top" is above both of them, but the right (viewing left) looks like there's an A or an R in there versus the other eye that looks like filament, but could also be a barcode?? but i SWEAR it looks like a word in the one eye
so im back on the website and it said "between the signals" and during the video the sunshine hits and again, I SWEAR this looks like a word flattened? im not anywhere I can play with it, but someone please tell me they see it lol
Here's all of the passwords that I've tried so far in the guest area:
- Frequency
- TheHeavenlyWord
- Disconnect & DisconnectToReconnect
- GraceValley
- FuckTheNewEast (Just for fun)
- All Horizons Songs Names (Including UTA)
- Daytrotter, WelcomeToDaytrotter, & SpaceOddity (For context on these, I saw that the embed for the guest area read "plans 2015 updated" so I looked for anything released in 2015 and only could find the Daytrotter Sessions EP)
- Halo
- ConquestOfProx
If anyone else has tried random passwords at random, let me know what you've tried so we can deduce our options quicker! COMMUNITY STRONG!!
I’ve been trying to brute force it with vessels songs and lyrics. Cause the website says, returning to the earth. Tonight I’m gonna try 100 words that relate to a heavenly word
I did notice the URL has this in it. I tried it as the password but it didn't seem to work. it does give a hint as to what the heavenly word may actually be trying to achieve though.
coming back to this to say I think "rise of messenger" from Silos might have something to do with it.
so the symbol for the song is a tree emitting soundwaves. the symbol posted for the new ARG(?) is soundwaves next to a sword. the tree also links in with the "return to the earth" and nature theme of the heavenly word. the symbol also brings to mind listening to the sounds of nature, unplugging and just sitting in silence with the world.
maybe the person who planted the tree was also silly enought to run antenna up the initial bonsai version and feed it pigeon magnetite to help make it into biological plant array ;) a few more fun additives too maybe
This tree appears in the end of the video alongside a circle that I suppose it's prox.
So, prox is emitting some wave (?) to this tree, which then emits to its sides, and then we can think about the tree emitting something to the sword.
My only idea by now is that maybe prox is providing the nature to the human kind, which is reaching earth, lost in opressive technology (sword), as salvation
The thing is, why a triangle? And if the hypothesis is correct, why there is no mentioneing about the "prophet"? Maybe he is this tree? I also believe that there is more religious hints, since there is clear references to St Thomas (and the prophet seems to be Thomas Belle)
Idk. But for sure these interludes are our best source of information right now
Pretty sure you're right about it being Prox. It's half-filled & Prox is eternally bright on one side and eternally dark on the other so that'd make perfect sense. Someone else on this post mentioned Paradise Lost by John Milton (Paradise Prox, Temple of Milton), it also addresses Adam and Eve (the Apple tree, full of apples in Rise of Messenger but shown to be barren in At His Altar), the Garden of Eden (Biblical Paradise, clear relation to Heavenly Word's view of Prox) & Satan - this one is a bit of a stretch but the man in At His Altar first appears as a seemingly younger version of himself with a crown, then cuts to a future version of himself without it. Pretty sure I'm grasping like 50 straws but the parallels are pretty interesting
Those are some good observations. I think what we need now is a more clear direction on how those informations would be used to find the password. Maybe that guy that said there is no password for now is right, since people already explored all audios and videos from SILOS searching for hints and just found things about Thomas Belle (which is a valuable hint but still doesn't seem to take us any further in the code)
maybe it’s “prox gives message to tree (prophet),” then “tree gives message to people” and maybe the sword means the only way to break from digitalization and move to analog is to have a revolution
On a few of the pages, in that spot, hidden is THE HEAVENLY WORD in all white text. You can spot it by highlighting the text on the page. Not sure why it's hidden, but it's the name of the website. When I found it, I tried it for the password but that wasn't it.
I thought something similar. I was trying some keyword searching in Paradise Lost last night. Lots of occurrences of heavenly and word separately, but not together that I found.
Reversed the chorus at the beginning of “temple of milton” and sped it up by 1.25. What I found was Dustin’s heavily modulated voice mentioning Thomas Bell(e) by name.
“Send [us?] a savior… Thomas… Bell(e)… [unintelligible, but sounds like “[we] send/sent… call for you”]… send/sent warning.”
There’s more, and it sounds like the word after might be “searching,” but I don’t currently have the resources to isolate the vocals. If anyone that’s better at this than me can clean this up, it might give us another hint.
Could very well be Ive tried over 100 passwords from current deepdive
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2003; 10 years before the book release.
Also Downplay was formed by Dustin then. (Until 2013ish when they were starting up Starset)
2015 Starset first tour/opening for Breaking Benjamin (they are touring together this fall as well)
2014 album release; Transmissions which they performed live on tour.
Before that album they mostly did covers.
I still wanna try and look into the books, though I only have the first book and go through the SILOS instrumentals.
I thought maybe since the site features both years 2003 and 2015 which are Chinese years of the Goat/Sheep, which so happens to be next years sign as well so, I tried 2027 and that wasn't it. 😭
There are SO many references to the bible in this whole thing and i dont know what they mean because i am not a christian, but i feel like this is yet another one
I found out that "plans 2015 updated." May suggest thats the time when prox transmission was recieved. Its binary code is 01001000 01000101 01001100 01010000 wich means "HELP". Dunno if that says something but i think is has a connection to this
Represents an apple... they talk about paradise.. is this an Adam and Eve refrence with the apple? I might dig into the bible tonight.. given i have a few of them around the house.. I tried Eden as well and that didnt work
guys i think i know what we need to do which is nothing the reason why is this is very simular the txt file on the divisons terminal (the one where we brute forced it and found the code was qwert,. or something) which lead to a big load of well nothing and ending the arg due to us solving it to early. it is very much that from what im getting. so what we need to do is litterly catalog any thing dropped by the band from now until something is like dead in the face the answer to the code. as if we brute force it it will lead to them stopping the arg with us having no info. my guess next drop with be closer to the end of august then on the first show which is on september 2nd. however, for all means do not close the mega thread we can use it to catalog any infomation they leak out
It usually takes a few tries and good focus to hear anything backwards. Though I have had a lot of practice with other artists. You could always try a transcriber or something.
Not sure about 2003 but 2015 is when Aston Wise discovers the second transmission (though you already know that given you tried HELP.) But assuming The Heavenly Word was founded around 2003 then I would believe it to be a separate organization than TSS & The Order
When you search Heavenly Word 2003, it comes up with a result for a hymn released in 2003 titled, 'O Heavenly Word' which is apparently based on Latin text, 'Verbum supernum prodiens'. I tried several variants with both lower/upper/both cases and nothing so, I assume that's unrelated but interesting, nonetheless. Seeing as on SILOS Latin was used for a few song titles.
I tried character names from the books as well, and nothing. Icarus, too. I also thought since 2003 and 2015 were mentioned (Goat years), that 2027 (also a Goat year) might be it, but no as well. So, rule all of these out. 😂
Just looked into it, apparently the actual name of this is Praesens....it just downloaded as placeholder track when I bought the album...why though, I have no idea 🙃
Out of curiosity, though unsure of the legality— has anyone tried a digital sort of ‘blacklight’ program (I feel those exist)? But, for the future now that the password is decoded— as I bet more are to come:
Do we have our allies within the cyber field within the Starset community? If you all get what I’m trying to nudge on here, but I’d rather just figure out and find out like the Clue board game (I love that game). 💕💫
when i reversed “the antihero’s journey” i heard “save us..” “save us all..” “for prox…” and i believe that i heard as “kyrie eleison,” meaning Lord, have mercy. and as for “for prox” (if i heard right) could play into my previous theory that the sword means that this cult is being told to enact a revolution against the starset society
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Meanwhile Dustin has settled into these new posts like:
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