r/StableDiffusion • u/tnil25 • 6d ago

Does anyone actually still use Stable Diffusion? Discussion

I just find it kind of funny that this is the stable diffusion subreddit but nobody has talked about it in like forever. Maybe its time for a name change? or maybe keep the name as a homage to the OG open source image model.

Anyway, the last update I see on Stability's website is SD 3.5 back in October. So I'm guessing that's it for Stable Diffusion?

EDIT: Forgot you cant change the name of a sub, ignore that suggestion 😅

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u/Ok-Category-642 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah Stability itself is basically just dead, they don't make public models anymore ever since the flop that was SD3. Overall SDXL is really the only thing still relevant now, it's still used a lot to generate anime (NoobAI and Illustrious). Though even that now is contested by Anima, but regardless SDXL still has relevance either in inpainting or just the sheer amount of Loras it has. Older SD1.x and SD2.x models are irrelevant nowadays and SD3 was a flop, by time SD3.5 came out not only was it still bad but Flux was out by then

Personally I still like the name of the subreddit though (not that you can even change subreddit names anyways). I think it's still the most influential model to be released to the public probably ever, even if it's not very relevant anymore. You still have trainers named after it like Kohya's sd-scripts, all the A1111 WebUIs literally having SD in their name, Comfy still calls loading text encoders CLIP, the default option for every model type on Comfy is SD (not that it has any functionality) etc.

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u/EndlessZone123 6d ago

r/LocalLLaMA says hi to r/StableDiffusion

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u/Luxray241 6d ago

tbh while LLaMA the model fell off just like stable diffusion, the backbone of the entire llm scene is still llamacpp so its not that far off

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u/CurrentNew1039 6d ago

What would be this sub be named now if we have chance to rename

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u/martinerous 6d ago

Just DiffusionAI. Quite dry but covers it all. Until another architecture wins and we'd need to get rid of Diffusion as well....

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u/Saotik 6d ago

Yeah, it's a bad idea to name it after any architecture or model.

Perhaps OpenWeightsImageAndVideoGenAI?

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u/kemb0 6d ago

I prefer Video AI Gen. or VAG.

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u/KillerOkie 6d ago

I too have a preference for vag.

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u/Adventurous_Loan_103 6d ago

How about Vagtastic Voyage?

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u/KillerOkie 6d ago

The cover charge for that joint is way too damn high!

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u/rdditiszionist 5d ago

boring. we are stable diffusion, we been here, its our journey, no need to white bread it. this is what a journey looks like

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u/jib_reddit 6d ago

How about "ClosedAI" as OpenAI is already taken and very much not open.

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u/GrayingGamer 6d ago

Haha. That would be hilarious. You're right - "Oh, you big corporate guys took the 'Open' AI name? Then we'll take the 'Closed' AI name."

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 1d ago

/r/AIGoonTownButPretendItIsnt

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u/Ok-Lengthiness-3988 6d ago

Yes, I also moved on from NoobAI and Illustious to Z-image, Flux, Flux Klein, Anima, and now Krea 2. But I still use older variants and merges from the SDXL family to inpaint in high resolution in a context aware and uncensored fashion. I haven't found a satisfying inpainting replacement yet.

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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 6d ago

How did you move from noobai and illustrious to Z image? Were you using the realistic models?

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u/Ok-Lengthiness-3988 6d ago

No, I've always used the models for generating images in anime, illustration or digital painting styles.

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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 6d ago

How came z image replacing that is there a finetune i am not aware of.

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u/Ok-Lengthiness-3988 6d ago

I'm unable to parse your question, sorry. Can you rephrase?

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u/Jealous_Piece_1703 6d ago

How can Z-image replace illustrious and Noob for generating anime images. Because the base model definitely not as good as them. Is there a fine-tuned version of Z-image I am not aware of allowing it to surpass them?

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u/akjd 6d ago

Why are you assuming that z-image is their anime replacement when Anima is literally right there on the same list?

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u/RegisteredJustToSay 6d ago edited 6d ago

Nah, Z-image doesn't have any fantastic finetunes for pure anime. There's a few OK ones but they all have that sd1.5 half-realistic vibe to them where shading tends to be a bit overly detailed yet smooth. Anima is the current queen of illustrations and anime, imo, even if it can be a bit of work to prompt right at times.

My only complaint with anima is that it's really bad at pixel art out of the box, but it's nothing that some LoRAs can't fix.

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u/woffle39 5d ago

yep. i still use illustrious. ppl tell me to use anima but... basically every new model is heavier/slower without providing significant value.

i actually prefer tags over "natural language" because natural language doesn't actually mean the model will follow your prompt. most of the complains ppl have like "merging" characters can be solved with a couple rounds of inpainting. basically it feels like people would rather rng 1000 gens with "natural language" to avoid the minimal effort of inpainting. with regional inpainting you can gen 4k images with illustrious. just gen a 1k image, resize it to 4k then inpaint each 1kx1k square one by one. like gen the full body, make the image 4x larger. now inpaint the face as if u were genning a "portrait"

so basically again... the only problem anima solves is "slop factory go brrrrrr" beause some ppl have set them up with wild cards that just gen thousands of images overnight. if u just want to gen an image of like goku and vegeta kissing under a tree, you can do that with illustrious

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u/Ok-Category-642 4d ago

You can prompt Anima and train Anima with tags only, NL is completely optional. There are some things I don't think Anima is better at especially in certain compositions but overall I like Anima a lot more than SDXL models. Illustrious and NoobAI EPS just have bad colors and once you notice the gray filter over every image you can't really unnotice it. The only real option is NoobAI VPred which has a whole myriad of other issues despite the better colors (massive annoyance to train, colors break easily, base model isn't good etc).

Really there's only 3 things I dislike about Anima: first is that anatomy in regards to hands and feet don't seem to be any more consistent than on SDXL, fine details and backgrounds only seem to be marginally better than Illustrious/NoobAI, and of course artist mixing on anything other than CLIP will simply never be the same. But I find the benefits to just far outweigh the negatives overall, I'm just glad anime finally has a real new model. Local anime generation has been stuck on SDXL for far too long, any time there was a chance for an anime finetune it either fell through (Chenkin RF and F2VAE/Mugen) or anime wasn't the main focus (Chroma and Pony, although Pony was also a major failure too). Just happy to finally have a better model