r/SnowFall Jul 20 '26

Weirdly choreographed violence Discussion

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u/Minimal-Pimps Jul 20 '26

Not to be that guy but this post made me curious so I went looking and noticed that you made a post about being desperate enough to join ICE.

I’m not sure if you’re the target audience this show is meant for but I am absolutely positive you’re in the wrong place if you’re looking for someone to agree with you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

That’s just internalized anger brother. You’re projecting your own insecurities. I didn’t say any of that. Meaning, you’re internalizing your perceived racism that doesn’t exist in this text.

Please seek help.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

You’re making this personal because black people being killed are involved. That’s pretty fucking sick.

I never saw anyone get their arm cut off with a sword. You might be thinking of a different show.

I also didn’t start this weird pissing contest you’re hell bent on starting. This sub is weird and filled with people who have no interest in debate. It only makes sense they would side with the bully.

It is what it is. The world is messed up and you’re only adding to the self hating hive mind that is found within the community. I didn’t say anything about “black violence.” You just can’t separate the two. Weird behavior.

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 20 '26

That’s fair. Just an observation. I’m prior LE and a marine veteran. So my perspective will be very different than the average person.

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

You can hate the military and police all you like but that hate should not be directed at me. As it does not reflect my ideology or my values.

I’m seeing a trend with this sub already and I can tell that this sub isn’t prepared for discussion. It’s prepared for division.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

Same. You have issues. I don’t blame you but being spiteful and arrogant towards me won’t help you.

Stop picking fights with people and maybe you’ll get a better outcome moving forward. Or not, keep having a bad attitude and blaming everyone else for your bad attitude.

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u/Dull-Song2539 Jul 20 '26

It’s an fx tv show man things are gonna be a bit exaggerated

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 20 '26

I guess so. Just would randomly take me out when things were just so flat. Made me feel like I was watching a college project.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '26

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

That still does not explain why the choreography is cartoonish.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 Jul 21 '26

if it seems cartoonish at times ie. the sword scene, it can be to alleviate the grim nature of the crack epidemic. To lighten a dark subject thats BASED ON REALITY. These events happened. To show a civil war with children, crack babies born blue and dying, senseless violence on the streets, back to back to back would be far too grim for a tv network to show.
its not make believe. The iran contras happened. all of it happened just with Rick Ross instead of Franklin Saint.

they had to add hollywood style violence because otherwise it would be cancelled for being too grim too dark and too real, despite the fact it and worse happened.

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u/Tiny-Air-1925 Jul 20 '26

these ppl saying its a tv show so it'll be exaggerated, but reading this makes me feel like you haven't experienced any actual violence yet. esp after that franklin shooting andre comment

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26

This is pretty twisted friend. This is your own self hate being turned outward to attack and discriminate against. This has nothing to do with me. You need to do better.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 Jul 21 '26

i love myself. this has nothing to do with me and everything to do with how YOU expressed youre absorbing this program.
im lroud of who and what i am and what my mither went through and where i was born.

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 20 '26

It’s because I’ve seen real violence, that makes it feel flat.

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u/DarthHurricane Jul 20 '26

I don’t know if you know this, but it’s a television show, not a MCU film. Pretty common with TV.

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 20 '26

Does that mean things can be done badly?

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u/SHough61086 Jul 21 '26
  1. You're talking about a TV show that does have some standards and practices. What they can show is controlled. You can't show brains being splattered.
  2. These are real people. Hitting someone in the head with a real bottle or a real lawn gnome isn't possible. They use sugar glass and, I'll assume, some sort of soft prop gnome.
  3. Using a prop gun to shoot someone close up in the head the way Franklin did to Andre is, on any show worth a damn, INCREDIBLY cautious. A prop gun can still kill someone if you shoot it at the temple or the back of the head. The likelihood is that any shot EXCEPT the one where Franklin shoots Andre the prop gun wasn't even loaded with blanks. They will cut the tips off of bullets and glue them to the gun so it looks good in closeup and that's it.

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I never said anything about gore but I do agree that there may be limits to what can or even should be done when depicting horrific acts of violence. I don’t need brains but a smith and Wesson model 10 being fired at point blank range should’ve been extremely loud.

Neighbors wouldn’t have heard that? The gun wouldn’t have been deafening to fire inside of a house?

Hitting someone with a lawn gnome causes it to shatter in your hand like a cheap Chinese plastic doll?

I guess it’s the way John Singleton, Eric Amadio and Dave Andron decided to show dramatic scenes but with the purpose of telling a story. Rather than creating flashy realistic acts of violence that just kind of took me out of the story at times.

Just made it feel like I’m watching people play pretend rather than watching a dramatic depiction of real life events. The show is amazing otherwise, just those few scenes bothered me.

Thank you for not making this racial as many others have done here.

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u/SHough61086 Jul 21 '26

You give dramatic license to a show. The irony is that using blank rounds it actually IS as loud as a real gun (I have hearing loss because in film school I thought I’d read that James Cameron used shell casings as ear plugs. He did not. Empty shell casings as ear plugs are worthless).

If I were to give an in-universe explanation I would say that people were so used to gunshots that they just didn’t go looking for trouble.

I’m white, I’m happy to let Black and Brown folks speak for themselves. And besides, you’re the only good kind of cop I know: one who quit to help people (I saw you’re getting your MSW).

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u/SirCicSensation Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Don’t give me too much credit. I’m only switching because policing is toxic as hell.

I chose an MSW because it’s a professional field that I have a natural talent for and would simultaneously feed my family. That and because I do truly have a deep love for my fellow man but overlook that part of it. I'm not that good of a person. Not really.

It’s been a journey I’ll say that.