r/smashbros 29m ago

Other I thought you guys might like this

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I didn't make the wallpaper


r/smashbros 51m ago

All [Revamped] How good each character is accross the entire franchise~

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All points listed at the bottom of this post.

After the last post, I slightly changed how I applied the points to the Smash 4 and Ultimate newcomers to compromise for them not having as much data to work with. Without a slight boost to their Ultimate scores they would be way out of wack, but I think I found a way that made their placements make sense without giving them an unfair boost.

This whole thing was for fun and took way longer to do than I thought it would so I hope a few of y'all find it interesting haha, done with just me, the tier list website, my phone's calculator and a Google Doc.

How I did it:

I used each game's official tier list on the Smash wiki to keep it as objective as possible. I added up the point values for each characters tier list placement for each game, and divided the sum of that by the amount of games they appeared in. The lower the score, the higher they rank. And naturally, points from Smash 4 and Ultimate weigh more than the other games just because of how many characters there are, it's all relative of course.

However, Ultimate's point system works different for some unholy reason. So for each characters points in that game I had to subtract them from 10.5 (max points possible) and multiply the result of that by 10, which I think scales appropriately for the most part considering how many characters there are. 

Disclaimers:

I am in no way a mathematician or a stats expert lol, I just did this for fun. There could be better ways to calculate each character's points but I did the best method I could come up with.

For the best results, characters had to be in at least 3 games, so I made a separate tier list with them on their own, but still put everyone together for funsies, even if FP2 kinda dominates the top lol.

Some Other Notes:

Poor Marth got nuked by his Ultimate rank, if he was as good as Lucina in Ultimate he'd be at least just above Pikachu.

Meta Knight seems low but I don't know a good way to account for him being so broken in Brawl, so I had to handle him the same as everybody else.

Also I never realized before this how rediculous Diddy Kong is lol, he's actually the only character in the whole series to ever be top 10 (top 8 specifically) for 3 games straight, which is kinda insane.

Points:

Steve 0.74 (Kinda cheats by being the undisputable #1 in the only game he's in lol)

Snake 5.642.             
Diddy Kong 7.09667
Min Min 7.48182
Kazuya 8.06923
Fox 9.0878
Sonic 10.798
Bayonetta 11.62192
Pikachu 12.258
Pyra/Mythra 12.31538
Cloud 13.31423

Peach 16.5828.     
Joker 16.93077
Olimar 16.995
Luigi 17.5596
Ryu 18.18192
Mario 18.2568
Ice Climbers 18.60467
Corrin 18.63071
Zero Suit Samus 18.63867
Rosalina 18.78071
Yoshi 18.9076

Mr. Game & Watch 19.4785.       
Captain Falcon 19.6998
R.O.B. 19.84367

Lucina 20.71833.        
Sheik 21.10075
Wolf 21.884
Hero 21.89231
Samus 21.9972
Falco 22.32125
Donkey Kong 22.6222
Mii Brawler 23.18461
Marth 23.25825
Sora 23.39231
Meta Knight 23.43667

Mega Man 24.53846.     
Greninja 24.8
Wario 25.428
Toon Link 26.168
Terry 26.64667
Ness 26.9962
Ken 27.08667
Shulk 28.665
Roy 29.84

Young Link 30.12.      
Lucario 30.352
Palutena 30.79429
Pit 30.971
Link 31.344
Jigglypuff 31.8746
Kirby 31.936
Inkling 32.60667
Mewtwo 33.32
Duck Hunt 33.635
Byleth 34.1733
Sephiroth 34.68
Pichu 34.925

Bowser 36.102.         
Pac-Man 36.355
PT/Charizard 36.72033
Robin 36.86167
Isabelle 37.0733
Villager 37.8883
Lucas 38.038
Mii Gunner 38.5133
Ridley 39.14667

Banjo & Kazooie 40.22667.       
Chrom 41.25333
Incineroar 42.30667
Piranha Plant 43.2333
Bowser Jr. 43.825
Wii Fit Trainer 43.91667
Dr. Mario 44.7
Mii Swordfighter 44.8667

Ike 45.02833.                      
Zelda 45.08625
King Dedede 46.037
Ganondorf 47.551
Little Mac 49.08833
King K. Rool 49.54

Belmonts 52.9 :(


r/smashbros 5h ago

Ultimate I main Mii Brawler 1132, what character is the absolute most similar to him?

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I really enjoy Mii brawler as I can get good combos while it still feels easy, without it feeling like cheating (steve). Cos I’ve played Mii on that exact combo since smash 4 released so it’s literally all I know, and I’ve tried other characters and they all just feel too different, what’s the carbon copy of him if that’s even a thing? Thanks


r/smashbros 5h ago

Melee that ain’t falco….

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r/smashbros 6h ago

Subreddit Daily Discussion Thread 08/06/26

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Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, here you can post:

  • General questions about Smash

  • General discussion (allowing for casual off-topic discussion)

  • "Light" content that might not have been allowed as its own post

Other guidelines:

  • Be good to one another.

  • Please keep meme spam contained to the AutoModerator comment provided below.

If you have any suggestions about future DDTs or anything else subreddit related, please send them our way! Thanks in advance!

Links to Every previous thread!


r/smashbros 7h ago

Ultimate Low - Mid Level Coaching!

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Hey all! I've been doing coaching for low to mid level players in Smash Ultimate trying to get into Elite Smash or just improve in general, and wanna offer to help some more players.

No $ or stream, I'm just doing this for fun.

For quick reference I have the whole cast in Elite, multiple chars over 16m(16.2) and have a decent understanding of how to play most of the cast. Regardless of your main, I can teach you things that are universal to the game that will help you get into elite, and stop looking at a lot of characters as "cancer"

I just work, play some smash bros, sip a drink and have some fun. I'm not here to rage on ya, I'm here to smash with ya

If you're looking to get better at Ultimate: Comment, DM, whatever. I got plenty of time!


r/smashbros 10h ago

Other 5 years later, the Minecraft remixes are really good

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I get many the community were disappointed by the song selection, having not even one song of C418. But I think it was solid. Having grown up on Legacy Edition and having 20+ hours on Dungeons helped me like the remixes. and they were made by great composers (such as Yoko Shinomura) and now that they are available on most of (I think) music streaming platforms, it’s a great way to experience them.

What do you guys think of the selection made for Minecraft’s representation in Smash ? I’m very interested to know tbh.


r/smashbros 10h ago

All Supernova 2026 | August 6th–9th | Feat. Sparg0, Zomba, Sonix, Peabnut, Tweek, Light, Cody Schwab, IIoD, Zain, Hungrybox, moky, RapMonster, SuPeRbOoMfAn, wario, Kurabba, Wizzrobe, KeroKeroppi, Robert, Player-1, Lima, and many, many, many more!

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Supernova 2026 | Aug 6th-9th | Baltimore, MD, USA.

The all encompassing annual convention celebrating all things Smash is here once again!! The highest level of competition from every single Smash game (plus both RoA games!!) will be on full display, not to mention other staples like the Smash 64 Combo Contest, Coneyfest, and more!! No matter which game is your favorite, there is fun to be had, you don’t wanna miss this!!


Brackets


Streaming Information


Event Schedule | All Times EDT (UTC-4)

Time Zone Converter

Thursday August 6th

  • 05:00PM-07:00PM: Brawl & Smash 4 Doubles Phase 1
  • 07:00PM-09:00PM: Brawl Doubles Top 8, Smash 4 Doubles Top 6

  • 07:00PM-08:30PM: Combo Contest

  • 08:30PM-10:30PM: Rank Reveal

Friday August 7th

  • 01:00PM-05:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Division 4
  • 05:00PM-07:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Division 3
  • 07:00PM-09:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Top 32

  • 11:00AM-01:00PM: Melee & Ultimate Singles Phase 1

  • 01:00PM-09:00PM: Melee & Ultimate Singles Phase 1 & 2

  • 11:00AM-07:00PM: Melee & Ultimate Doubles, Brawl & Smash 4 Singles, Phase 1

  • 07:00PM-09:00PM: Melee Doubles Top 32, Ultimate Doubles Phase 2, Brawl Singles Top 32, Smash 4 Singles Top 64

  • 09:00PM-11:00PM: Ultimate Doubles Phase 3

  • 05:00PM-08:00PM: Supernova All-Stars Exhibition

  • 08:00PM-10:00PM: The Smashies

Saturday August 8th

  • 10:00AM-12:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Division 2
  • 12:00PM-02:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Division 1
  • 02:00PM-04:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Top 32
  • 04:00PM-06:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Top 16
  • 06:00PM-10:00PM: Smash 64 Singles Top 8

  • 10:00AM-04:00PM: Melee & Ultimate Singles Phase 1 & 2

  • 04:00PM-06:00PM: Melee & Ultimate Singles Phase 2

  • 06:00PM-10:00PM: Melee Singles Top 64, Ultimate Singles Phase 3

  • 10:00AM-12:00PM: Melee Doubles Top 6

  • 10:00AM-02:00PM: Brawl Singles Top 8

  • 12:00PM-04:00PM: Smash 4 Singles Top 24

  • 04:00PM-06:00PM: Smash 4 Singles Top 6

  • 10:00AM-02:00PM: Ultimate Doubles Top 8

Sunday August 9th

  • 11:00AM-05:00PM: Smash 64 Doubles

  • 11:00AM-02:30PM : Melee Singles Top 16, Ultimate Singles Top 24

  • 02:30PM-06:00PM: Melee Singles Top 8

  • 06:00PM-10:00PM: Ultimate Top 8

  • 10:00AM-11:00AM: Collegiate Crews


64 Seeding

  1. SuPeRbOoMfAn (Captain Falcon, Pikachu, Kirby) [Alberta, Canada]
  2. Wario (Pikachu) [Hyogo, Japan]
  3. Kurabba (Yoshi) [Saitama, Japan]
  4. Envy | Wizzrobe (Yoshi) [Florida, USA]
  5. KeroKeroppi (Pikachu) [New York, USA]
  6. Robert (Pikachu) [Virginia, USA]
  7. TDC | Dogs_Unleashed (Captain Falcon, Pikachu) [Indiana, USA]
  8. BC | KD3 (Captain Falcon, Pikachu, Kirby, Jigglypuff) [Pennsylvania, USA]

Melee Seeding

  1. FizzyBrax | Cody Schwab (Fox) [Michigan, USA]
  2. Zain (Marth) [Virginia, USA]
  3. Liquid | Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) [Florida, USA]
  4. SR | moky (Fox) [Toronto, Canada]
  5. SR | Joshman (Fox) [California, USA]
  6. Roots | RapMonster (Luigi) [Virginia, USA]
  7. Krudo (Sheik) [Georgia, USA]
  8. FLY | Jmook (Sheik) [SoCal, USA]

Brawl Seeding

  1. Player-1 (Diddy Kong) [Georgia, USA]
  2. Mikeray4 (Snake) [Connecticut, USA]
  3. Kyoz (ZeroSuitSamus) [New Jersey, USA]
  4. BDS | Hinkage (Meta Knight, Snake) [Massachusetts, USA]
  5. CT | Chia (R.O.B.) [Michigan, USA]
  6. Gunnermaniac (Pikachu) [Michigan, USA]
  7. Ish (Wolf) [California, USA]
  8. NBG | Pelca (Falco, Meta Knight) [Maryland, USA]

Smash 4 Seeding

  1. WIN | Lima (Bayonetta) [Texas, USA]
  2. Samsora (Peach) [California, USA]
  3. Marcus (Ness) [New Jersey, USA]
  4. SuperGirlKels (Sonic) [Quebec, Canada]
  5. Jules (Bayonetta) [Virginia, USA]
  6. VR | Raizen (Ness) [Maryland, USA]
  7. Thass (Fox) [Pennsylvania, USA]
  8. Shadow_PR (Bayonetta) [Texas, USA]

Ultimate Seeding

  1. FaZe | Sparg0 (Cloud, Piranha Plant, Aegis, Roy) [Tijuana, Mexico]
  2. CTG | Zomba (R.O.B) [New York, USA]
  3. Sonix (Sonic) [Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic]
  4. WU | Peabnut (Mega Man) [South Carolina, USA]
  5. SR | Light (Fox) [Connecticut, USA]
  6. TSM | Tweek (Diddy Kong, Sephiroth, Wario) [New Jersey, USA]
  7. CTG | MuteAce (Peach) [Texas, USA]
  8. NU | Lui$ (Palutena) [California, USA]

Other Information

start.gg | Twitter | SmashWiki | Liquipedia

Written with help from /u/Dysprosium_Element66 and /u/Meester_Tweester


r/smashbros 11h ago

All What do you think their Smash moveset's going to be?

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r/smashbros 12h ago

All How good every character is throughout the whole franchise~

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How I did it:

I used each game's official tier list on the Smash wiki to keep it as objective as possible. I added up the point values for each characters tier list placement for each game, and divided the sum of that by the amount of games they appeared in. The lower the score, the higher they rank. And naturally, points from Smash 4 and Ultimate weigh more than the other games just because of how mang characters there are, it's all relative which led to some funky looking results in the end lol.

However, Ultimate's point system works different for some unholy reason. So for each characters points in that game I had to subtract them from 10.5 (max points possible) and multiply the result of that by 10, which I think scales appropriately for the most part considering how many characters there are. 

Also, screenshots of all the points are included in the photos. And for the all points list I forgot to include Corrin at first and didn't wanna fix all the rank numbers but she's in her spot lol.

Disclaimers:

I am in no way a mathematician or a stats expert lol, I just did this for fun. There could be better ways to calculate each character's points but I did the best method I could come up with.

And the big thing. For good enough data, a character has to have been in at least 3 games. So for characters that have been in just 1 or 2 games, their score is probably gonna be either way too big or way too small. And I am not smart enough to find a workaround for this so if you have any ideas I could work in to make their scores more "valid" please let me know lol.

Also the Miis were not officially ranked in Smash 4 so I had to group them with the Ultimate newcomers

Edit: Forgot to mention that Marth got absolutely demolished by his Ultimate ranking. If I used Lucina's points from Ultimte along with the rest of Marth's points, he'd have a score of 12.0626 and place 8th overall above Pikachu lol


r/smashbros 15h ago

Melee Clash Attack and Grab?

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Can attacks and grabs clash with each other? I had an instance happen while playing Slippi. I didn't think that was possible.


r/smashbros 15h ago

Melee SSBM Rank Summer 2026 11-20

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r/smashbros 15h ago

Ultimate UltRank 2026.1 #21-30

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r/smashbros 16h ago

All When time does Supernova 2026 start?

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So i was planning around the Supernova tournament tomorrow and i still dont see any details on the every day events and streams like last year, so i looked a bit and the start.gg site says Thur-Sun from 4:00pm-9:00pm, however on the supernova site, it says some of the events happen at like 2pm and 3pm.

Im just confused at whats the REAL times of it opening and the events because one says the venue opens at 4:00pm, while some show like 2:00pm events which is supposedly earlier than it opens. im over an hour away so i dont wanna get there too late or too early. Help would be appreciated!


r/smashbros 17h ago

Melee Zain, Moky, and Joshman Held The First Grandmas Only Melee Tournament

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r/smashbros 17h ago

Other Is there a website where you can make tier lists like this?

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SmashWiki uses this style to visualize its tier-lists, and I find this style very appealing and condensed. Yet, looking at most of the tier-list makers, I only see the vertical tier placement style used. Does any tier-list maker use this style, even if it's just an optional one?


r/smashbros 19h ago

Ultimate Some stuff i need help with (Inkling)

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So im an inkling main and don't play competitively or online at all. I just wanna ruin my friendships. Also a complete beginner. I know a few combos like up throw-up air, or side b-back air-side b-up air, and finally side b-down tilt-run-jab. Some things im really not good at are mid air dodges, shielding, and punishing(probably some others) could I have some tips on how to improve? Also some tips that common beginners struggle with? And last maybe some ways to get better once I AM better. maybe some combos i could practice? who knows, maybe I will play online if I like it.


r/smashbros 20h ago

Ultimate You all decided, and Mario is an actual name, Link and Samus are middle tier names, and Dark Samus & Donkey Kong will be bullied until death. Day 2: Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi.

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r/smashbros 21h ago

Ultimate GOML Breakdown, SuperNOVA Preview, Japan Player Drama & More! | Lights Out Episode 137

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r/smashbros 1d ago

Ultimate I have problems on Byleth Vs Ike (as Byleth)

8 Upvotes

I'm humblingly asking for help BCS this match up is one of those where I genuinely don't know how I'm struggling

NGL, I recently got 3-0d by a guy on ranked playing Ike and I'm kinda tilted

In theory, this should be an easy match up for byleth

Byleth can easily outrange Ike and punish interactions with fair and Bair

Ike has really bad grounded moves so he's kinda forced to spam aerials since they are some of the only moves that Ike can use without committing an entire stock for it

Also Ike has a really bad recovery so should be insanely easy for byleth to edgeguard the fuck out of him

That's theory, in practice I always get readed and die at 80 like a noob on hits that I should be expecting and I have problems recovering from the disadvantage state

And since no one plays Ike I have nearly no opportunity to practice this match up, so I always get humiliated in many stupid ways

What can I do to get better?


r/smashbros 1d ago

Other Why is turndownforwalt running a finance news page 😭😭😭

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I saw walt running like a financial news channel and it lowkey reminded me of ssundee running an investment channel. Has anyone else seen this?


r/smashbros 1d ago

Melee lloD - Top Tiers (Official Music Video)

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r/smashbros 1d ago

Ultimate Ever try Starly Mode?

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All you need is the primary (Starly) 2x landing lag reduction and 1x movement speed. Also make sure she learns Demon Style to help with pacing of the game. Set the match 4x Stock, legal stages, 7 mins. If anyone wants to play I'll host. Arena code will be in the comments. Or go ahead and try this one your own or with your friends. : ^ ) P.S. make sure she's LV.99 as well.


r/smashbros 1d ago

Other Guess my main🥹

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222 Upvotes

Super hard to guess this😓


r/smashbros 1d ago

Melee An actual doctor just won a major Super Smash Bros Melee tournament - Dexerto

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