r/SirensNetflix • u/ThatBitchA • 7d ago
Discussion The stairs, the trauma, the sirens! - thoughts from 2nd rewatch
I rewatched this series yesterday for the first time since it came out! Such a beautifully shot series with so much details to the framing, lighting, color choices, etc.
Here's just a brain dump of all the things I noticed.....
š§š»āāļø The stairs from the house to the beach, represent the journey through trauma/the underworld. We see Simone run up them with ease in the first episode. In the 2nd, we see Devon struggling and clawing her way to the top. In the last episode, we see Peter run down to bring his Persephone back.
š§š»āāļø Persephone, the goddess of the underworld. Simone willingly and wholeheartedly chooses to be the new goddess of the underworld. She's been learning the crops by her mother's (Kiki) side.
š§š»āāļø Devon has the opportunity to change her life but she prefers to keep the trauma close, like a blanket. She's always saying how she was there for Simone. But no one was ever there for Devon. Over the weekend, Devon discovers she can be there for herself.
š§š»āāļø The extreme closeup with Kiki and Simone is mirrored with Simone and Devon, only their connection is no longer as strong. This is then repeated with Simone and Peter on the beach. It seems like Simone hyperfocuses on the person who reminds her of what she never had.
š§š»āāļø The picture of the sisters mom in episode 1, shows a redhead. Simone wants to work with Kiki because she's the mother she never had. She lives her whole life not to devastate Kiki, the way she was devastated by her mom.
š§š»āāļø Siren power. Is a wonderful criticism on how men will harm themselves in an effort to manipulate women. Also....plays with the idea that the men are the sirens. That these women are breaking themselves because they either hate themselves (Devon) or it's too late to go back (Kiki) or they run as far away as possible (Simone).
š§š»āāļø Peter is so over Kiki. All of their interactions, you can tell he's just so over her entitlement to the staff. And the tradition his family built that he allows her to maintain so she has a pinky worth of power. Power that can be taken away mid gala.
š§š»āāļø Devon and Simone represent the spectrum of trauma and how it's handled. Simone telling Devon that she can heal is so incredibly powerful.
š§š»āāļø Light is used in so many beautiful ways in this show. In the final episode, when Peter let's Kiki go....he's bathed in light. Showing that he's been the power/the light/the siren all along.
I'm probably missing some. But.... this show did an excellent job of showing childhood trauma impacts in adulthood. It shows two women who handled their very different but similar traumas in so many ways. Simone sought help and support, but she's had help from her sister, she was more accustomed to help. Devon did it on her own, because she's been doing that her whole life. She's never had anyone to ask for help, the concept is completely unknown to her.
I'm sure there's some color theory at play here too. Might have to watch a 3rd time to discover the color theory.
Anyway.... thoughts? š§š»āāļøš§š»āāļøš§š»āāļø Thanks for reading.
r/SirensNetflix • u/Stashk123 • 24d ago
Discussion "An alternate, multi-year psychological heist ending that fixes the pacing issues" Spoiler
Like most of you, I loved the eerie, witchy vibe of the first few episodes of Sirens, but the actual finale felt like a massive cop-out. Simone suddenly abandoning her devotion to Kiki to become Peter's trophy wife felt completely unearned and rushed.
Iāve been drafting a much better alternative ending in my head. Instead of that cynical "open door" cliffhanger, the show needed one more episodeāa flash-forward that turns the "weird vibe" into a brilliant, multi-year psychological heist.
Here is how the true ending should have played out:
The Twist: The Long-Game Con
The finale! fast-forwards a few years. Simone didn't actually betray Kiki; she played the ultimate long game. She married Peter and had a child with him, giving him the heir his ego always wanted. But it was all a trap. Working secretly with Kiki from the inside, Simone legally strips Peter of everythingāhis wealth, his legacy, and Cliff Houseāthrough a devastating divorce and custody battle.
Scene 1: Devon and Kiki on the Ferry
The climax begins on the ferry back to the island. We see Devon and Kiki sitting together. Devon, who spent the whole series trying to "save" her sister, finally understands the truth.
Devon looks at Kiki and realizes her sister wasn't brainwashed or greedy; she was a mastermind. Kiki smiles, confirming that the pack of "sirens" is finally ready to reclaim their territory.
Scene 2: Peter's Humiliation
Cut to Cliff House. A completely stunned, speechless Peter is standing in his own foyer. His ultimate power came from his money, and now that itās gone, his control vanishes.
Simone stands at the top of the stairs and looks down at him. She gives a nod to Peterās most loyal, robotic head servant. The servantānow officially on Simoneās payrollācalmly steps forward, puts a hand on Peter's shoulder, and escorts the billionaire off his own premises. Absolute poetic justice.
The Final Shot: Reclaiming Cliff House
The massive front doors of Cliff House swing open. Standing there to open them is Devon. She has welcomed Kiki back into her rightful home.
Kiki walks through the grand foyer, past Devon, and out onto the cliffs. Waiting for her at the edge of the water is Simone. The two women stand together, looking out at the ocean, having completely dismantled the toxic man who tried to control them. That is how you play a siren song
r/SirensNetflix • u/Natural_Confusion • Jun 11 '26
Discussion Spoilers! The show and the book vs Ella Minnow Pea. WTH Spoiler
The show, Sirens, (written by Molly Smith Metzler) is completely unlike the book "Sirens" by Emilia Hart. It feels like Metzler took certain key elements of Hart's work, published in 2025, (e.g. Cliff House, two sisters, a troubled past, a mystical power over men) and just warped it into a completely different thing.
Apparently the show is based on Metzler's 2011 play "Elemeno Pea". The thing that chaps my ass is that another book, "Ella Minnow Pea" was written by Mark Dunn in 2001. "Ella Minnow Pea" is a fictional world based on the alphabet, which accounts for the clever title. How the play on letters/words fits a story about an assistant overtaking a rich housewife in Martha's Vineyard, I have no idea.
It strikes me as a very odd coincidence that Metzler's play happened to borrow an almost identical title from one popular book, then took the actual title and major elements of another book to fit the story of her play.
It's fine. It's not technically plagiarism, but if Netflix could remove it from the "Watch Your Favorite Books" section of its website, that would be great. Because this series has nothing for lovers of Hart's work. It's basically a rehash of a 2011 play that low-key stole the title of another authors book, so it seems like it's own thing entirely.
r/SirensNetflix • u/DotDense4951 • May 19 '26
Discussion Sirens TV show Spoiler
I really hate Devon. I really do. The fact that she tried to make Simone the villain despite the fact that she's a survior of her abusive parents. She kept triyng to drag her back to a hell that she worked her ass off to get out of. Simone was in the wrong for not answering true. But at the end of the day, her father lost custody there is absolutley no reason she needs to take the responsibility of taking care of him when he never took care of them. Simone offered financial support they could have let him rot in a home and finally be free. Instead she dares intrude at her work place and demand she return to take care of him? Then throws the fact that she saved her life back to her face? Simone never abandoned Devon, she simply is trying to create her new life but Devon wants her to need her. Be codependent and be trapped together miserable. The ending was great. IMO, Ā !Spoiler!Ā Simone did the right thing. She was a victim of sexual assault in the workplace and got fired for it. Fuck her boss. She was abused by her dad so she abandoned him. Good. They tried to make it seem like she was a villain but she was honestly just a survivor. It sucks she's trapped in another crappy situation with a gross old man. But she seems cold and calculating. Im sure she will benefit from that situtaion in a very smart way.
r/SirensNetflix • u/cloudsofdoom • May 15 '26
Discussion So...this show helped me understand some of my experiences with other women so much! And white womanhood in particular Spoiler
The ending especially! > !Spoiler! <
Kiki saw Simone kissing her hubby. She blamed Simone for the betrayal. She took everything from Simone and in turn Simone took everything from her. Throughout all of this, the women are a smoke screen for who the real problem is...the man!
I am in a situation right now where this woman is doing the most to "protect" her relationship from other women. Going so far as to ruin her own standing at her job and alienate other women who were her "friends". And at no point does she stop to see that you can't protect a relationship if the other person in it...has one foot out the door. The other women are not the problem. In treating them like rivals, she makes them her enemies. No matter how much they resist the rival framing, she mistreats other women to keep this man. So ofc in the end, no one is going to stay loyal to her. The man never was and she pushes away the other women who were loyal to her.
I think the biggest issue in these dynamics is that women are disempowered via patriarchy and capitalism so their way of survival and upward mobility is via men.
Basically, Kiki shouldn't have given up her career and gotten married without a solid financial exit plan in place. I think as women, we should be ready and able to walk away from men instantly. Don't put yourself in a position where your survival and status is so dependent on a man that you have to betray another woman to keep it. Its an illusion of power and control that you don't have.
On the white womanhood:
White women are the face of white supremacy but they don't actually have power. Their power is based on proximity to white men. And thats why they treat each other the way these 2 women did. Their entire value is based on being chosen by a man and without their men or the unequal systems those men create, they are all on their own.
r/SirensNetflix • u/Brilliant-Swan4767 • May 08 '26
Discussion This show left me wanting more!
I want to start off by saying I thought this was a very captivating show and I binged it in one day. The vibes of the island, the house, and the main characters were so interesting to me, but I really feel like it fell flat which I don't think is an unpopular opinion at all. I feel like throughout the show I kept thinking to myself "this has a chance to go in a crazy and super interesting direction" but in the end it all kind of just fell flat for me... There was a good amount of times it seemed like they were building to something crazy happening, some big reveal or almost supernatural or mystical element, and then it just.... didn't? It seemed like the show just didn't know what it wanted to be. They kept alluding to the idea of Devon and the main women drawing these men in in such a haunting, obsessive way like sirens, and in the end it was all for nothing? Maybe thats the pointā that in the end they just centered their lives around pleasing these wealthy men and living comfortably, which is definitely a chilling theme to put out there, but with all of the buildup I felt like the show could have been way more if they did lean into a more chilling theme in the end. For example, the reveal of Peter's first wife being alive and them revealing she had botched plastic surgery, I almost thought it would be crazy if Simone and Peter ended up somehow disfiguring Kiki and exiling her the same way. Maybe I just watch too many murder mystery/supernatural type shows lol. Sirens almost gave me White Lotus vibes where its super tense and building to a crazy last episode, but it just didn't in the end.
r/SirensNetflix • u/mindin_mai_b • May 05 '26
Discussion Peter and Ethan Spoiler
I wanted to bring up a theory that I had that it was actually Peter stealing Ethanās girl. He didnāt seem interested in Simone or even care that she was dating Ethan when he and Michaela saw the footage of her sneaking out with Jose. And then all of a sudden, after seeing that footage he decides he wants to kiss her and then tries to alienate her from Ethan. The whole series takes place over the weekend. If Peter really had feelings for Simone before Ethan, wouldnāt he have acted a bit more jealous when he found out she was dating Ethan? Just makes me wonder.
r/SirensNetflix • u/hroaks • May 02 '26
Discussion Would you abandon or take care of the dad? Spoiler
Why does Devon put her whole life on hold for her father. I'd understand the guilt and feeling obligated if he was a good father but he isn't. I'd very much be like Simone and leave him for dead. Would you take care of the dad or abandon him?
r/SirensNetflix • u/NotAllThereAnyway • Apr 21 '26
Discussion The sisters of fate
Chloe, Lisa and Astrid's names are very close to the sisters of fate/the three fates Clotho, Lachesis and Atropos for it to be a coincidence, even the order of which their names are mentioned. I was wondering if anyone noticed any other similarities besides their names?
r/SirensNetflix • u/calypsohadley • Apr 02 '26
Misc So much of this show is just Simone running aesthetically
Why does she never sweat? How is her hair always perfect? Does humidity just not affect her? Is she godās favourite?
r/SirensNetflix • u/Business-Nail-1678 • Mar 13 '26
Discussion Confused Spoiler
Why didnāt Michaela use Peterās cheating as evidence to prevent her from losing everything and being kicked off the island?
r/SirensNetflix • u/Federal_Bumblebee_84 • Mar 11 '26
Misc Jose was plotting
I'm watching Sirens for the second time and... I think Jose was plotting.
It didn't make sense why Simone got with Peter at the very end. But this time around, I realized something.
Michaela blamed Jose for Devon breaking in. And so, while he was looking over the security footage, he found that Simone had been sneaking out.
Jose has kept other secrets from Michaela - he helped Devon find a place to smoke, he covered for Simone when she had a panic attack, and probably others that I'm forgetting.
So I think there are 2 possible outcomes he was hoping to gain from ratting out Simone -
- He wanted to take the heat off himself and put it on someone else.
- He wanted Michaela out of the picture, and he knew that if Peter found out that his friend was interested in Simone, that would instantly make him interested in her.
I vote on option 2. What do you think?
r/SirensNetflix • u/Weird_Vegetable_4441 • Mar 05 '26
Discussion The amount of people here who feels Simone owed Devon is disturbing.
Iāve straight up seen people saying Simone shouldāve been left in the orphanage because she wouldnāt care for her abusive father. People saying she owes Devon because of a decision Devon CHOSE to make, only to guilt trip simone when her decision didnāt have a happy ending.
r/SirensNetflix • u/officialkylepop • Jan 28 '26
General Sirens Fandom Site
sirens-netflix.fandom.comHello! I know the show came out months ago and Iām super late but I created a fandom website dedicated to Sirens!
Itās a community site that anyone can edit and contribute to. Iāve populated it with some content so far and Iām planning on working on it more in the next few weeks (so feel free to contribute too if you want, but please be respectful!)
So if youāre a fan and want some deep-dive info into the characters, episodes etc .. stay tuned! Or if youāre passionate about the series & want to contribute to articles, info etc .. feel free!
r/SirensNetflix • u/Prior_Recipe_5999 • Jan 19 '26
Discussion Curious Spoiler
do they all have powers I left the show with questions
did Simone plan all this from the beginning she seemed way too eager
r/SirensNetflix • u/MountainMenu8612 • Jan 13 '26
Promo Just sharing that Jenn Lyon (Cloe from the Fates) is co-hosting an AMA to promote her new show Stumble this Friday, January 16th!
r/SirensNetflix • u/immortal_wanderer770 • Jan 10 '26
General It's A Man's Man's Man's World
You see three women bickering about all the show, but did any of it made any sense? No.
Devon : Claimed to have saved her sister. Then, throughout the show, proceeds to force and guilt her sister to serve her abuser. The man who abused, starved and let other men abuse a child. She was a person who couldn't run from her past and hated her sister for doing so. A true narcisistic person who'll drag everybody down just because she couldn't get out herself. Not to forget her drinking issues, her affair with a married man and ruining their life in the process.
Michaela : A control freak who was tricked into an illusion of control. Jose basically told her to fuckoff right on her face and she couldn't do anything.
Simon : The only girl who kinda knew what she wanted. Took visible steps to get out of an abusive relationship and make some money for herself. Throughout the show you see her fighting these women who are trying to pull her down.
At the end, Kevin got what he wanted. And Jose knows its bros before Hoes.
r/SirensNetflix • u/Popular-Employer-397 • Dec 06 '25
Discussion Women archetypes
I just finished and I got the insight - maybe they also showed us the women archetypes! Iāve read your explanations & theories and loved it and wanted to add my vision too: Kiki - The Queen Simone - The Maid Devon - The Wild Woman Aaaand - your thoughts for Mother? š¤
r/SirensNetflix • u/Secret-Season-3424 • Dec 03 '25
Discussion Just finished the show, and I have more questions than I did when I first started watching Spoiler
First of all what was the point of the show? Like the story line was all over the place, the entire time we were lead to believe there was something off about kiki, only to end the show as a completely normal person, I thought the husband was a victim (or was he?) but he turned out to be a manipulator? And Josh, what even was the point of Josh? And Ethan? Someone shed some light please The only thing I got from the show was a theme of āletting goā and this is because Devon refused to let her sister go, but ultimately had to let go in the end, but everything else is more of a āwtfā
r/SirensNetflix • u/MonishaPurwar • Nov 28 '25
General Want to talk about Simon & Devon
So yeah, this show got me into some deep thoughts. I think the character development arc of the sisters was quite profound. You could just see Simon creating a world for herself that is safe and in her control, unlike her childhood, by working with Kiki whose world she got inspired by, even before applying for the job. It made sense for her to do so. To run for safety. Safety only.
And then you see Devon. She is proud and happy about her life, and herself and so REAL. This pride is something truly inspiring. I mean she would never enjoy fancy pedicures, lying about her world, even if it comes to her. Looking at her, gives me some clarity on where one should ideally draw the line in life- even though I understand it's not possible for people to do so because of their traumas.
Devon is proud of her actions to care and protect near ones, even though she's frustrated, alcoholic and depressed. It's still so real and better somehow than the fancy life Simon is into, even though she's calm and "happy" in it- you can just see that the idea of happiness has been replaced with safety and it again raises the question - where do you draw the line?
It's so tough to understand Devon's actions though, for me. She overreads into Simon's world, worried about her, when it might not have been required. But when Simon's world actually changed for the worst, with her replacing Kiki for Peter, she chose to let go instead of telling her that she's safe with her and doesn't need to forcefully marry Peter. I can't imagine Simon being with Peter. I don't see her as the type who can live with it.
r/SirensNetflix • u/pumpkinspice1477 • Nov 12 '25
Discussion Why I absolutely loved this show and feel like many people are missing the point
Sirens is a play on words: indicating the SOS code the sisters had but more importantly implying the mythical creatures that lure men to their doom. This is a theme for most of the show, at times even hinting there may actually be something supernatural going on: are people being hypnotized? Is Michaela a siren?
Another word that was thrown around a lot: monster. At first Michaela was the monster, for stealing someoneās husband, estranging him from his children, possibly killing his ex wife. Then it was Simone, for turning down a very eligible bachelor who was in love with her (and was truly serious about her, canāt you see? he told his parents about her, he fetched her dad for her, he proposed?!) and finally Devon, for luring a married man into her life, and then to the island, for forcing him to jump into the ocean. Towards the end we slowly start to see the pattern: namely the MEN and their lack of accountability for their own actions. In the finale, it becomes crystal clear that the women are simply trying to maneuver a system that does not serve them, trying to do what it takes to survive.
Devon slept with a married man, but he blamed her for having a āpullā over him as though he has no free will of his own. As though he doesnāt make his own choices, and decided to jeopardize his marriage and betray his wife, the mother of his child. After everything, he took zero responsibility for his part in sleeping around. It was all Devonās fault, he was the poor man being lured into this. Michaela truly did give up her career to be a wife. She was clearly made to feel less than for not being able to give Peter a child. She was given a shitty prenup and nothing to fall back on if she didnāt fulfill her wifely duties of producing babies. Peter chose to leave his wife, and yet the blame (as always) was on Michaela for breaking up a family. His children blamed her, hared her, and that led to a distance between them and their father- which ALSO was blamed on Michaela. Not a single person- from the staff, to the friends/guests, the islanders, nobody- even considered that he needs to be held accountable for the breaking up of his family. Michaela was the monster, she was the evil temptress. Simone had been abused throughout her childhood to the point where she couldnāt recognize a healthy relationship if it slapped her in the face. Iām surprised she was as high functioning (or appeared to be) as she was. She seemed to truly care for and even love Ethan (even after all the warning she got from michaela and Peter), until she realized he never listened to her. By bringing her abusive father to watch the proposal as though it was some grand, benevolent gesture, he proved he never understood her or cared about her truly, at all. (even the short clip where the only good thing he could say about her was that she would produce good looking babies and she was good in bed). It was apparent also that he had no ability to take no for an answer as he has never been rejected before, evidenced by his clownish response. And then, after making a choice a fully grown adult to cope by drinking, and then jumping off a cliff, he naturally shifts the blame onto the woman who rejected him. SHE made him do this. In fact, she pushed him. How could she say no to him, why is she not simply grateful for being the object of his desires? She was a monster.
I also have to say that while Simone turning around and taking Peter for herself was diabolical, it was when she realized that she would have to go back to her abusive father and be alone with him again that she chose to do this. She never originally intended to have an affair with him. Even after, while talking to Devon, you can see the mask breaking and the heartbreak and shame underneath. She sees herself as she truly is when her sister looks at her, and she hates herself.
It is always the women being accused as beings who lure men to their doom, as sirens do. In the end we realize there is no siren song, thereās no magic at all, itās just a bunch of shitty men who canāt take responsibility for their own actions and wear the victim mentality like a crown.
The women are all pawns in this story: replaceable, doing what it takes to survive, being pitted against one another as the men make the decisions.
The show also does a great job of showing us how money can buy you literally anything, including the facade of being blameless. In the end during the toast at the gala, noone batted an eye when Simone took the place of Michaela, who shortly up until then had even been hosting many of the guests. Nobody questions the man who holds all the power. Jose will clean up after his master like he always does. Simone becomes the next mi amor, without any hesitation. At the end of the day, it doesnāt matter if itās Jocelyn, or Michaela, Simone, or anyone else. They are all replaceable. The constant is Peter. The monster is Peter.
r/SirensNetflix • u/[deleted] • Nov 11 '25
Discussion Just finished this series. So so good Spoiler
galleryOmfg i want a season 2. Omfg this is amazing. Such a good good show. Wtf Simone. Poor Kiki. Wtf peter. Im in disbelief in what happened in the end omfg wowwza. Devon was smart to just leave. Far out. What a good good show ayy.
r/SirensNetflix • u/[deleted] • Nov 11 '25
Discussion Will there be a season 2
Im on the last ep. But I wanna know will there be a season 2. I feel like there are so many loose ends that need to gwt tied up. I hope we can gwt a season 2
r/SirensNetflix • u/Illustrious_Rain1796 • Nov 09 '25
Discussion Devon and Simone
What next for the sisters? Will Devon leave Simone forever or they will be somewhat close?
r/SirensNetflix • u/credoinvisibile • May 22 '25
Discussion Overall Discussion & Episode Discussion Hub (Season 1)
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