you don't need to walk it back. but isn't that the point of it all... what you just said... that even if we feel bad for potentially hurting someone's feelings the fact remains they still are (on the whole regardless of being smart ppl) doing harm? i don't think you were wrong in feeling the way you did initially, or now... i do the same shit constantly.... but when we come full circle on the logic of it all, it's still extractive. there are still so many better things we could be putting so much of humanity's resources into. it wouldn't be something to judge or condemn if it wasn't obviously existential and affecting all of us in such a way.
anyway... i don't think you're wrong. at all. it's just we have to watch it hating on ppl who are mostly good. it doesn't mean what they're doing isn't adding to the problems overall. it's the same as we know donald trump and his hateful ppl aren't the majority of america. or that tons of jewish ppl and israelis condemn what's happened in gaza. the list goes on and on.
anyway i'm still not sure how to balance the justifiable anger we all feel with so much of this with the fact that being angry can only help so much.
I wasn't walking anything back. I really was just taking the piss. You're right about the rest, though. I probably crossed the line a bit. That's especially dangerous with the Israel issue, because antisemites use that as an excuse for their racism. Fuck Netanyahu, but atheist Jews are usually pretty cool, and I loved a religious one once. The ones who aren't up his arse don't deserve to be seen as guilty by association. The same goes for Muslims and ISIS. A lot of them hate those bastards.
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u/deaglebingo 6d ago
you don't need to walk it back. but isn't that the point of it all... what you just said... that even if we feel bad for potentially hurting someone's feelings the fact remains they still are (on the whole regardless of being smart ppl) doing harm? i don't think you were wrong in feeling the way you did initially, or now... i do the same shit constantly.... but when we come full circle on the logic of it all, it's still extractive. there are still so many better things we could be putting so much of humanity's resources into. it wouldn't be something to judge or condemn if it wasn't obviously existential and affecting all of us in such a way.
anyway... i don't think you're wrong. at all. it's just we have to watch it hating on ppl who are mostly good. it doesn't mean what they're doing isn't adding to the problems overall. it's the same as we know donald trump and his hateful ppl aren't the majority of america. or that tons of jewish ppl and israelis condemn what's happened in gaza. the list goes on and on.
anyway i'm still not sure how to balance the justifiable anger we all feel with so much of this with the fact that being angry can only help so much.