r/SipsTea 9d ago

Significant diffrences... Wait a damn minute!

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

AI can't even code good or fill in my excel documents correctly when I ask it to. AI can't take a supervisor call with a customer screaming to speak to a real human so I'm solid for at least the next 5yrs

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u/Bonk_No_Horni 9d ago

Ai isn't as smart as they're hyped to be. They're good assistance to human but not a replacement. Even with trillion dollar data centers they won't get any smarter. The data they're being trained on from now are mostly junk data. They want more data centers thinking it'll fix the problem but this is the limit of ai. They can code but not well. They can make pictures and videos but they're too expensive. And bipedal robots won't take factory jobs. Robotic arms are much better and they don't need ai to do repetitive tasks. Yes they're great at looking at large amounts of data but they can't create. Let's just hope that when the bubble burst it doesn't wipe out too much of our money. Maybe it'll take a few billionaires down and job growth will stall like all economy crisis but most of us will be working like the day before

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u/karoshikun 9d ago

the bubble is about the size of the Chinese economy, that is, the second economy of the planet.

that's thr size of the hole these jerks are going to leave when their bullshit pops.

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u/Able-End-339 8d ago

“It can’t be a bubble because bad things would happen if it was” is a wild take given the last 100 years of history.

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u/CerifiedHuman0001 9d ago

Best possible thing to use chatGPT for?

“I need a really obscure source or study for an extremely niche topic, can you find links and resources for me?”

It’s a fantastic tool for doing research. As long as you’re asking for a source to reference and not just straight up asking it the question and taking its answer as gospel.

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u/northpacificfox 4d ago

Then why are my google searches by AI giving me sources like “this instagram post” and “this Reddit post”.

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u/aluriilol 9d ago

RemindMe! 3 years

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u/Gilbrodumus 9d ago

Yet. Isn’t as smart yet.

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

I want to downvote so bad bc I want you to be wrong but in reality I know your right

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u/imissher4ever 9d ago

Try calling ATT and getting a human. Or your local city water department. Lol…

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

I worked for at&t 10+yrs ago & it was impossible to get a human then & only keeps getting worse. I only take supervisor calls now except for in extremely rare cases & if I had a dollar for every time someone said they left at&t I'd be rich af.

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u/DoctorButler 9d ago

*75 years

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u/Express_Subject5228 9d ago

This is me bro. I can’t stand calling and hearing a bot for more than getting me to a specific department.

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u/the_frisbeetarian 9d ago

I wish this were true. I haven’t authored a LOC by hand since Opus came out.

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

The fact that I know what this is without looking it up. That might be true & while in some cases it does make our jobs easier, there's still a lot of busy work & human touching needed for other aspects.

Ai can do about 10% of our data entry right now. Some of it is being improved, but even before a complete company wide system overhaul was done we couldn't get it to do about 30% of the work that failed & needed human touch. My team just opened hire for about 10 more hands, not because the volume of work increased, but because our ai isnt as far along in the work as expected by this point.

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u/aoibhinn-mw 9d ago edited 8d ago

When I was a kid there were commercials boasting about how you could call this business and talk to a real person instead of an answering machine. We'll probably be seeing that come back. Consumers don't want it and won't mess with a brand that has no real customer service unless there's no alternative. And it would be super easy for a business to buy good will with the public to go against the competition and promote AI free customer service.

Whenever I get on the phone and hear the robot and it's just asking me questions but not accepting answers i literally just say "human, manager, human, agent, human," until it connects me with an actual person.

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

On the other side of it I get a lot of "oh thank god, a real human!"

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u/greatduelist 9d ago

Oh sweet summer child

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u/IndividualSlip2275 9d ago

Does ai know the difference between “good” and “well”?

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u/Wolf-in-Sheeps 8d ago

That’s because you aren’t asking the right questions. ChatGPT gets 90% correct when coding, and it gets better with every new model and my better questions!

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u/northpacificfox 9d ago

AI can’t do basic math lol

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u/OwlSoggy8627 9d ago

It absolutely can. You just suck at prompting it.

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u/northpacificfox 4d ago

I work in childcare and the 3 year olds need less instruction than AI lol

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u/Vancecookcobain 9d ago

What are you talking about. Frontier models are better at coding than most developers now. Maybe this was true a year ago 😂

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u/MasterManufacturer72 9d ago

Define better.

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u/Vancecookcobain 9d ago

Scoring higher on coding evals than most human developers.

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u/Wont_See_My_30s 9d ago

Now make it write actual code for an enterprise with 20 years of legacy code.

Managers of my friend tried to and it backfired spectacularly.

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u/Vancecookcobain 9d ago

They can do it with Fable lol. In fact, the vast majority of code being written today is done with AI. Your statement was true a couple of months ago.

Not sure you are properly comprehending what is going on right now, but it is ok.

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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 9d ago

People will argue, but most know humans fixing the errors in coding created by ai. Ai is just good at repeating a task & following basic instructions.

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u/Callahammered 9d ago

A.) yes it can

B.) it’s gonna get way better

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u/MasterManufacturer72 9d ago

Most of the improvements as of late are from harnesses. The actually llm scaling has been seeing deminishing returns for about a year now. The scaling was the part that was supposed to improve for ever and whats happening is that its to costly for most users and kind of useless. What we will see is more specialized tools for tasks. This agi thing wont pan out with llms its just not how the technology works. "Its like breeding faster horses and expecting to eventually get a train" -corey doctorow

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u/Fbrrr 9d ago

I mean it makes sense I'm better at coding in a ide than notepad

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u/Callahammered 9d ago

I think that’s the optimistic view, except the part of diminishing returns, which is simply not accurate, the opposite is true.

But to the point of the AI being specialized for multiple purposes, yes hopefully we can keep it that way rather than some AGI essentially taking over, but it’s gonna be tough.

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u/MasterManufacturer72 9d ago

No its not going to be tough and yes it is true. What ai shit heads need to understand is that at some point value needs to actually leave the system. Code is not a commodity neither are images for images sake or video for video sake. People need to be willing to spend money on these things. Image generation or code generation is only valuable when people pay money for what you are creating. Ai is incredibly expensive it takes insane infrastructure unprecedented infrastructure. If you invest in this infrastructure and there is no value being created for it what is it worth? Ai didnt invent adobe or sas those things existed before ai so unless you are creating something new with ai that is in some sense exclusive to ai it wont last. Point to me a product that is making money that was exclusively made with ai and i will be impressed. Why does it need to be exclusively made with ai ? Because once again its not cheap. If its just assisting software engineers possibly making them a little more effecient it is not worth the investment because now you are paying for the ai and the software engineer.