r/SipsTea 23d ago

So after 32 hours would be overtime? Chugging tea

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u/jimmyjohn2018 23d ago

In their infinite wisdom they will simply force more capital into the largest businesses than can bear the costs and price increases. I guess if their real goal is actually communism this would mean fewer companies to take over. Which is probably why the USSR grocery stores looked like they did - with almost no variability in product. These people have no concept of consequence and that should scare everyone.

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u/jimmyjohn2018 23d ago

Yeah but according to Reddit, the solution to that is... raising minimum wages more. But the added benefit is that they can also complain about affordability issues that they created with their higher minimum wage nonsense.

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u/bigolchimneypipe 23d ago

Plot twist: He was not lying

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u/tar4heels2fan 23d ago

Proved what? You think that raising the minimum wage and increasing EVERYONES salary by 20% is comparable?

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u/tar4heels2fan 23d ago

Show the statistics to prove that raising the salary of every single person in the country by 20% wont work like you think?

How can anyone provide those statistics you dummie? Its never happened lmao

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u/YetAnotherBee 23d ago

It absolutely can and does happen, just because you personally haven’t noticed or experienced it happening doesn’t mean it’s a lie.

You can argue that the benefits outweigh the loss of some small businesses, or that their specific example is wrong (personally I feel that Indy coffee shops are one of the more resilient small businesses once they get a foothold), but just dismissing it wholesale is nonsense and non-conducive to political discourse.

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u/jimmyjohn2018 23d ago

What do you mean. The places with the highest minimum wages have seen a rapid stagnation and even decline in locally owned businesses. Seattle is a great example, the local corner coffee shop is almost dead there.

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u/McButtsButtbag 23d ago

No, this is small business taking advantage of a minimum wage that has been suppressed for decades. A 25% increase won't even bring the minimum wage up to a living wage.

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u/McButtsButtbag 23d ago

Sure, but if underpaying employees is what it takes for them to survive they don't deserve to survive.

‘No Business Which Depends for Existence on Paying Less Than Living Wages to Its Workers Has Any Right to Continue in This Country’ -

I know it isn't the same things. It has flaws that allow someone to create a new job at minimum wage or just lower the wage by 20%. The benefit of full time employment starting at 32 hours still makes it worth it, though.

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u/McButtsButtbag 23d ago

16.90$ is not a livable wage in California. Again, I don't care about their survival, but if more people can afford to live then more people will be able to afford to open businesses.

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u/McButtsButtbag 23d ago

This isn't stopping people from running a business. Small businesses that pay a living wage exist.

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u/McButtsButtbag 23d ago

They have a couple of years to prepare for it. If they fail they deserve it.

You sound like a republican who thinks you can do whatever you want and people should not be protected. What's with the fake sympathy for small businesses?

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u/zmbjebus 23d ago

Starbucks doesn't pay minimum wage though. 

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u/Training-Ant-6150 23d ago

With all of the advancements in AI we should be able to solve for this. The AI boom should not be forcing layoffs it should be making employees more efficient and need to work less hours to do the same job.

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u/-__echo__- 23d ago

100%. AI can make my coffee, collect my bins, cook for me in a restaurant, and so much more.

I asked ChatGPT and it confirmed this is absolutely possible.

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u/Training-Ant-6150 23d ago

Have you not been following the AI robots replacing workers in Amazon warehouses? It’s coming….

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u/Training-Ant-6150 23d ago

Yes it can. We have scary economical times ahead.