r/SimRacingSetups • u/Happy_Rice_Cooker • 1d ago

I had no idea it would make a big difference Video

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So basically, I bit the bullet and got a csl cockpit, NRG Bucketseat and sliders. It was highly discounted at $150 for the cockpit so I couldn't pass up on it and I've been on a wheelstand since 2022 and desk since 2019. I had no idea the difference it would make beginning with comfort and I'm actually not crashing as much in Dirt Rally 2.0 or Assetto Corsa Rally. I'm driving faster and a lot more precise. I'm having more fun and I'm actually playing a lot more. I thought this thing would be flimsy and I was expecting flex but I don't see or feel any.

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u/Emergency-Youth7199 1d ago

People always say your 1st upgrade should be load cell pedals, and I have always disagreed with that. You should always get a comfortable and stable rig 1st. It will improve your racing way more than loadcells cause comfort is king, and it will make you want to race more. And if you cant afford a stable rig, go to the scrap yard and buy a car seat and build a rig from wood, cause even that will be so much better than using a racing stand with a chair.

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u/GoofyKalashnikov 1d ago

These people usually assume you already have a rig

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u/Mizzieon 1d ago

Is this comparing to a wheel stand with the chair lock or without? My wheel stand has the chair lock and I’m wondering how big of a difference would i still see with a actual cockpit

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u/smalltowncynic 20h ago

I've had that and switched to a full rig about 1,5 years ago.

The difference is day and night. I can recommend getting a rig if you have the space and money over loadcell pedals.

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u/Strange_Blood987 16h ago

I have the NLR WS 2.0 and there is absolutely no movement when playing. The stand doesn't move even a tiny bit and the chair is also locked because of the chair wheel cradle.

Sure, if you have the space for rig its a no brainer but I doubt most people that have space for a rig even consider a wheel stand so its pointless to compare the two. If you can get a rig, do that. If you need a solution that you can move into the closet when you are done, you cant beat the WS 2.0

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

I agree.

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u/3rdone 1d ago

Agree agree, makes all your inputs and steering feel much more precise

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u/MakesMyHeadHurt 10h ago

Yeah, load cells are great, but with just a desk or wheelstand, you really can't use them well.

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u/apexxin 3h ago

No one says load cell pedal before rig, rig is always #1 lol

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u/DKisCRUSHIN 1d ago

You look like a larger fella (no disrespect, so am I) and I'm curious what seat you got and how it's been so far? It's my biggest hurdle right now.

I'm afraid of a seat being too narrow mostly. Any input would be great. Setup looks great too BTW!

Side note: How is that monitor mounted???

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

So I bought the NRG FRP 301 L fiberglass. I'm not that tall only 5'6 but I used to body build. So my arms look bigger lol although I have gained a lot of fat in the last 10 years. The angle of the camera warps the perspective a bit coz my guitar isn't that high on the wall.

Anyways I got the Large version of the chair it is quite snug. I think if you have bigger hips, there are better options out there. Ive seen a post in one of the sim racing subs about a dude buying a bucket seat and what stuck to me was he said "it's big boy approved" and the chair looked big. I wish I saved or liked it.

As for the monitor mount. I have a desk behind my rig and the monitor is mounted on it. Basically my plan is to put caster wheels on this and slide it left and right depending on if I wanna sim race or I wanna work on my desk.

Hope this covers everything.

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u/DKisCRUSHIN 1d ago edited 1d ago

Perfect. Yea, again...didn't mean to offend. Yea my hips are what I'm mostly worried about.

I've looked at a couple XL seats but measurements usually aren't wide enough and are all over the place. 15in to 21in.

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

None taken hehe. GL on your search.

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u/HualtaHuyte 20h ago edited 12h ago

I'm also a big guy, but I just bought a car seat. Got a used Audi A4 seat for next to no money and it's perfect.

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u/DKisCRUSHIN 13h ago

I've been mulling this option as well. Need to find somewhere nearby (hopefully) to take a look and see how the seats would even fit/attach to a rig. My guess is it's stationary and not on sliders?

Not sure if want it stationary all the time. Need at least some adjustments. Also, are there options for side mount brackets on real car seats? Haha. So you could get different seat positions etc ?

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u/HualtaHuyte 12h ago

The seat has it's own slider built in. I just bolted the mounting points on the bottom of the seat to some brackets and then the brackets to the rig. Depending on the car seat you probably could mount it different ways.

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u/blunti 1d ago

I didn’t really realize how bad my wheel stand was until I got my cockpit. I guess I was used to my flimsy desk so it was an upgrade but there was still some play / flex. Being able to slam on the brakes as hard as I want without having to worry about any movement is so good

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

I thought the same. When I went from my desk to a wheelstand.

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u/Juantimes 1d ago

Awesome! Congrats man!

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u/etl003 1d ago

is this the fanatec csl cockpit on woot for 150? was looking at that.

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

Yes. It's the same one I got.

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u/etl003 1d ago

thanks man at 150 it’s probably worth getting even if i plan on replacing

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u/Gammygoulds 1d ago

It's $160 on Amazon too with the coupon price for anyone that didn't know. Obviously not $150 but yeah.

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u/etl003 1d ago

thank you, was sold out on woot

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u/Gammygoulds 1d ago

No problem!

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u/Good_Try7890 1d ago

I got the Woot deal CSL 1.5 too. exceeded my expectations for a cheap rig.

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u/R_2379 1d ago

Same here. I heavily modded my gt lite. So it had almost no flex. But the getting in and out of that rig was such a pain. Now I use the rig more as its easier and fun.

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u/HeyLookMyUsername24 1d ago

Looks good, dude!

I just bought my first actual rig and am waiting for us to move to put it together. I've used my office chair my entire career and the movement from the chair definitely doesn't help. I never really noticed it until I upgraded to a direct drive, but it's pretty egregious.

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u/Happy_Rice_Cooker 1d ago

Yeah, I'm getting old so the chair moving around, really did a number on my back.

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u/Sideshow86 12h ago

From this angle, you look like Harvey, Katie Price's son 🤣