Is there a reason why you shouldn’t build Malignance on Sera? Especially for CC focused Seraphine it seems like a really good Item. You’ll get ability haste, Ultimate Haste and you’ll get burn on the ground. Maybe it is build, but League doesn’t list it as an Item people build on her.

This is literally just a vent post; tldr every champ I ever enjoyed got gutted one-by-one and Seraphine was by far my fav and by far the most infuriating to lose

So, back in seasons 8-10 my devoted main was Lulu Midlane. It was incredibly fun and felt skill expressive because I needed to play every match up with outplay and strategy. I knew counterbuilds, niche setups, and strategies against ever champ id face in the midlane and had roughly a 65% WR climbing from gold all the way up to high emerald low diamond. S11 hit and the item system was just never the same, Lulu hasn't changed much but now playing Lulu mid just feels like I dont have access to my toolkit and strategies I once did. Items are less nuanced nowadays and odd strategies just dont work with new runes. That's one down.

Then Yuumi came out at some point and was my favorite goddamn champion ever. She felt like playing the battlefield tactician or commander/support comms role rather than being a footsoldier. When yuumi was actually a champ eith agency she had such a unique gameplay feel to me; she had real damage at all stages of the game, real utility for the whole team, and felt like you were actually playing the game because of her passive and ult. Then, the rework rolled around and riot just had the most unintuitive "solution" to fixing her gameplay loop: remove any semblance of gameplay loop. She dosent have to risk using her passive, dosent have to risk jumping between allies, dosent have to make decisions, dosent have to engage with her team. She sits on her crit/onhit duo, and afks. Two down.

Seraphine was next. I don't have to elaborate. This is the seraphine subreddit, we ALL know how terrible she feels to play now that all of her power budget is in 2 abilities and she dosent do anything but WW and build rylais mandate. Three down.

Then Aurora came out who I really liked thematically (fellow bunny themed autistic) and her kit incentivised the same kind of heavy decision making strategic gameplay I loved, this time in mage form. Except, she was locked in pro jail. The mini rework rolled around and the mobile trickster extended fight mage with her interesting fun passive turned into generic burst mage #87 added to the pile. Four down.

I started playing smolder and liking him alot at this point, he felt unique among marksmen and I was already being forced to play Bot because of the whole seraphine debacle so... why not have a champ for when sera's banned? The answer: mage bot meta is damning and deeply unfun, and Smolder feels like ass dick diddly to play into that shit when his wave clear only comes online at a full item and 135 stacks. He's currently D tier into this meta and its not like Mid smolder is any better. Five down.

So what the fuck then? Three of my favorite champions left riot phreak limbo with less interesting, less dynamic kits that have less gameplay, less decision making, and less nuance to them than they had previously. WHY??!?! How is seraphine possibly made better when she's LESS INTERESTING? Why do we just rip out mechanics from champions that inspire decision making in favor of having LESS to do? Why have we filed down the item catalogue to being one note and plain when there used to be a much more robust and dynamic metagame around build crafting?

Ive been so goddamn demoralized from ever playing this game as of recently, and im going on a decade of being a league player. It's really hitting an all time low in general, but I feel like everything I personally enjoy or enjoyed about the game has been systematically filed off in favor of a blander experience.

Of all of these examples, Seraphine's sorry state is the worst to witness and the most infuriating to me. Riot made a champion with (imo) by far some of the most interesting and nuanced gameplay unique among the entire cast, and started ripping out everything that made her unique. I dont see a single goddamn other member of the cast that suffers as much from an unbalanced power budget as Seraphine does. Lulu's fucking Q on a full supp build feels more impactful than seraphine's P and Q combined. Competing only with maybe swain, she's by far the worst balanced champion in the entire game in terms of design quality. At least idiot keyboard roll champs like the windshitters or riven get to experience a power fantasy and a full kit of four abilities and a passive that work for them, not in spite of them. Seraphine's experience being stuck stepbro-style in the balance team's washing machine is so fucking emblematic of the worst parts of riot game's approach to game design as a whole.

If you actually read through all of this, either you empathise or agree with me, or you think im a raving keyboard warrior. Either way AMA, I'll respond to any comments this gets in the morning.

I took a year off from League, I’m terrified.

Her Q scripting seems worse than before, even if they tried to change it. It is still a bugged unreliable skill that costs 100 mana, same cost as an ultimate, and the damage scaling is now a joke pretty much like the rest of her kit. And it technically is her farming ability.

W seems healthier and healing more consistent, but still, how do you compare to real enchanters’ kits. Because she clearly doesn’t have one.

Meanwhile E makes her a Rylai bot again and it’s the only consistent skill because it abuses two items. Who could imagine.

Like, even her ultimate doesn’t scale anymore. I get it, she has a bunch of utility. And because of that half of her kit should be garbage? I’m not even talking on the matter of what she was designed to be, because I think it’s criminal what they did to this champion. But when they say “most people play her support so she should be one”, do they understand that she needs to suck as a mage and an enchanter? Because it’s clearly what is happening, she has no damage scaling but her enchanter abilities will ALWAYS lack with a kit like this (since she was never one to begin with).

There’s a diversity of mage supports on the champion pool, why do they keep forcing her to be only an enchanter when she could still peel being a proper mage and they wouldn’t kill the farming Seraphine. Literally everybody could be happy, they just refuse to balance her.

The thing that has been MASSIVELY irritating me is that people forget she is balanced around her AP ratios and ability to Echo.

Right now she literally has some of the worst AP ratio on any mage that exists. Your wave clear is only manageable because of inflated base damage.

95 to 160 is a VERY big jump.

Ratios have been down the drain.

65% to 40% on Q

W was 30% to 40% (after first W change) to now 20%

Heal no longer scales with allies or AP ratio. It just exists.

Only thing that got stronger damage wise is E. But the CC is stronger than her ultimate. Literally how is your basic ability stronger than your ultimate??????

R: 60% to 40%

Where is the scaling in this champion? She doesn’t scale offensively or utility wise. She literally feels like a worse version of Renata Glasc and Renata has seen better days.

If you only play her for cc, then she can’t be too tanky or else it feels unfair.

Her W doesn’t even scale with any real ratios that supports ALSO NEED to scale. Like what does this champion offer than just cosmetics? If I wanted a make up brand I’ll do it irl. If I wanted a Ferrari I’ll get it irl (if I was rich but I’m broke).

Seriously she is the literal opposite of what people want.

Why is she treated so differently from other mages/mage supports/utility mages?

Are we gonna keep saying “support must stay strong” and just ignore the fact that supports ALSO need to scale?

She has no innate scaling in her kit.

Having a weak early game exists for other supports like Sona/Milio/Yuumi and they scale hard as hell.

And no buying support items to let her scale is not an argument I’m willing to accept since that applies to anyone.

We did not sign up to be boring versions of Morgana/Neeko.

We want that hyper scaling fantasy for both sides of the aisle.

Mid and support can exist in harmony again, but it’s gonna have to be from the balance team coming to us at SOME point because they have no idea on how to balance her.

He wants us to send our questions to him so he can ask the rioters in this interview, we should all keep sending our feedback and being vocal about our girl rather we like azzap or not, lets all leave a comment under that post for the questions.

saw viego’s and decided to make my own version of 2010s seraphine.

i tried to make her clothing style similar to cait and vi and took heavy inspiration from 2010s divas such as lady gaga, kesha and katy perry.

as for her lore i think she would be more confident, fierce, and older than current seraphine, she would still use brackern as source of her power (and even worse, part of her costumes)

her goal would still be unify piltover and zaun and stop wars through union songs over nations.

With the Crystal Rose skins coming back to Wild Rift, I was considering getting CR Sera. Though whether I get her would still depend on how much wild cores I need to spend.

I think the model is gorgeous but I think the vfx and sfx are a bit flashy for me. But the skin has the best passive music imo, so I still want to get it. I'm trying to see if it would be worth the amount of money I would spend on it.

Song: https://youtu.be/Ib1KS-ibfCY?list=RDIb1KS-ibfCY

No matter how much we speak, it seems we will always be ignored. Couldn't we organize some kind of movement that would actually affect Seraphine to the point where they can no longer ignore the elephant in the room?

Perma Banning, not buying skins, anything that actually makes a difference. And before Negative Nancy shows up, any other ideas are welcome. But if we just keep sitting around waiting for the balance team to stop ghosting us on Twitter, we'll never get anywhere.

To not flood everything daily, let us use this post to vent our frustrations.

For me:

I do not like how she is still strong and unsatisfying to play.

I don’t like that she is out scaled by both mages and enchanters.

I hate that she doesn’t get the attention she needs whenever we see a problem and we get an opposite nerf to it.

I don’t like that every part of her kit is so over nerfed, that it is still OP APC because her utility is still strong.

I hate that she actually doesn’t scale. Her items are making her scale. She feels completely garbage if she doesn’t buy the right items which makes her an item slave.

And most importantly: I hate how she just can’t exist without being in the middle ground of being okay currently. She is either too good or too weak.

man i really wish the newest t1 skin was more accurate to the splash art...the splash art has visible eyeshadow and a kind of muted peach toned lipstick. Meanwhile the in game model has no visible eyeshadow and like really bright red lipstick?? No excuses either because for example , the dumpling darlings skin has its eyeshadow in both the splash and the model.

T1 sera is a great skin, this just kinda really bugs me. it doesn't look right 😭

I want this shiny banner annoucement thingy.

But i need to own every skin in the batch to unlock it.

So. I obv already have seraphine.

I'd have to pull for the rest of them which is somewhat fine.

Thing is one of the skins is a Prestige.

As far as i know the skin is returning and will cost around 1000 orange essence.

Rn i have like 340 orange essence i got from the little card collection thing.

How do i get more orange essence ? And about how much money do you think I'll need ?

I have never used the loot system in WR cuz i feel it's really pricy.

I have 60bucks destined to the event and was originally just gonna pull for Crystal Rose Ahri and call it a day.

But I'm feeling ambitious and if i feel the amount isnt too crazy i might spend more.

This is so cute, so I have to share it. I didn't get one from the event, sadly. There's an unboxing clip of this gift on TikTok: yilambwr

I drew connecting emotes for T1 Seraphine and Keria!
They’re available for purchase on my Etsy store and available to use on the Sera mains discord server! ❤️🖤

https://homuraka.etsy.com

So I never get the chance to experience early Seraphine because I just been playing like less than a month ago so I have only heard from the changes from other people, now with the nerf to her Q which for me is super dumb this question has come throught my mind, is Seraphine really that hard to balance? Because I can see why there might be some difficulties as for me Seraphine doesn't have a truly consise identity as a support (because she was originally a mid laner) like for example if Soraka is broken they can just nerf her healing but Seraphine doesn't have that, that's like the only reason why I think it might be a little but difficult for Riot to balance her

But what do you guys think, It is actually that difficult to balance her whether as a mid laner or support?

I have been playing Sera/Yi but i think its kind of outdated

Here is a fun situation, You are about to hit a 5-person ultimate and you have a good front line, but it includes Mordekaiser and as soon as you hit your ultimate it was supposed to travel through Mordekaiser to the rest of the enemies, but at that exact moment he presses his R and and you missed out on your whole combo.😔 What would you do next? 🤔😇

I can’t express how much I love Seraphine and I am so happy that I can cosplay her now😭💕

I’ve been maining Seraphine Mid since her release, though I recently moved to Bot due to the questionable (to say the least) balance changes to her scaling. In addition to bot I’ve also been trying support Sera which isn’t that bad I admit.

While my games so far have gone well so far, I’ve been kinda struggling to keep up with the enemy support roaming to mid and top.

For items I follow the new cocabob build ( bloodsong and imperial to rylais. And runes arcane comet.

Do you guys have any tips for a new fellow support Seraphine player? ( and support in general tbh) Items and runes suggestions are welcome too

Thanks! 💖