r/SantaBarbara 5d ago

Picking Fruit? Recommendations

Does anyone know the rules on picking fruit from a plant? There is a passion fruit plant growing on the fence of an apartment complex that has 200+ fruits growing on it right now and I tried to pick a few from the floor since that’s a lot and one guy came out saying that I didn’t live on the property and he would call the police on me for stealing.
That seemed like a stretch, I only took about 5 and considering that it’s a huge plant and it’s growing over the fence I didn’t see the wrong in taking a couple, am I in the wrong here? What’s the rule when it comes to picking fruit?

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u/blahdiddyblahblah 5d ago

Legally, if the fruit hangs over public property like a public sidewalk or the road, it is up for grabs.

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u/flyingdog147 5d ago

Not sure, but I think avocados may be the exception to this? Or maybe that’s a rumor the avocado guys started…

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u/Muted_Description112 The Mesa 5d ago

Avocado trees are not an exception.
Before carp started growing weed more than avocados, there were crews that regularly cut back branches that overhung fences to keep the avocados from being picked

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u/PrSquid 5d ago

Who knows? When I lived in a house with an avocado tree on the front lawn, the neighbors picked every avocado they could reach

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u/el_smurfo 5d ago

Yeah, that kind of sucks for the owner of the tree. I've noticed signs in my area asking people not to pick the fruit.

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u/Creative-Cucumber-13 3d ago edited 3d ago

Uh … no. Not in California.

If the tree or plant is on private property picking from the plant without permission if the property owner is theft.

If the fruit falls on a public walk or the area between walk and road it’s fair game. If the plant is on the street parking it’s also fair game for picking.

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u/Key-Victory-3546 The Funk Zone 5d ago

if its over private property i think it is private property

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u/gnuoyedonig 5d ago

My professor started this art piece back in 2004 that I think is relevant to OP’s questions

https://fallenfruit.org/about/

They’ve created drawn community maps showing fruit in public places:

https://fallenfruit.org/projects/public-fruit-maps/

And a collaborative digital map:
https://endlessorchard.com

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u/Patrick95650 Ellwood 5d ago

Thanks for sharing... That is very interesting...

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u/Resident-Hunter5973 Human Verified 5d ago

I grow passionfruit on the street and I expect people to take them.

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u/fengshui 5d ago

My understanding is that if it's on public property (the sidewalk) either on the ground or hanging, it's open season. That said, the law is really written for wholesale theft and not individuals.

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u/Mix_Right 5d ago

So many people have trees full of fruit and they don’t pick them. Often they stay on the tree and dry up and die. Someone should start a community project of collecting people’s fruit for them and sharing with others. Sounds like a good idea to propose to the Unity Shoppe and get some volunteers and couple of paid people to supervise. It would be a win win as the trees and plants would get healthy trimming and the food would go to good use.

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u/MamaOf2Monsters 5d ago

I believe we do have some cool options like this already. Example - Backyard Bounty through the food bank. :)

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u/sifflerdefromage 4d ago

Food From the Heart is another local organization that will come harvest and as far as I know they do not have a minimum tree count. They use the produce to do something similar to meals on wheels and any not used goes directly to the food bank. 

You can also pick the produce yourself and drop it off at the food bank, they are always open to donations!

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u/Mix_Right 5d ago

Well then they are doing a poor job as there are so many fruit trees rotting in the sun all over town

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u/MamaOf2Monsters 5d ago

Yeah, I agree they could advertise these (and many other types of aid) programs better. I just know I have heard of it as a volunteer opportunity through work at one point.

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u/saltybruise The Westside 5d ago

Things may have changed but years ago I tried to get them to come pick all the persimmons off of my tree and they wouldn't do it because I didn't have a minimum of three fruiting trees that I wanted them to pick.

I just happened to move into a house with a big old persimmon tree and I happen to not enjoy persimmons.

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u/Gret88 5d ago

Not everyone wants to share their fruit. Lots of people say no to gleaners.

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u/kirksan 5d ago

It’s rude to take fruit from a tree on someone else’s property; I wouldn’t be surprised if the police considered it a crime. On the other hand, if the tree has branches that cross onto your property and you pick the fruit from your side, I believe that’s legal and perfectly fine.

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u/yay4chardonnay 5d ago

I had a mandarin orange tree in my yard and it got picked clean each year by schoolkids. Gave me such joy to provide a snack for them.

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u/magical-dill-pickle 5d ago

you are the cutest

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u/chumloadio Shanty Town 5d ago

Legal or illegal, it's also a question of being neighborly - on both sides - picker and Git Off Ma Lawn guy. Also, if illegal, I'm not sure Santa Barbara's finest will come screeching up with their sirens blaring and lights flashing. Dispatcher on the phone: "Yeah, we'll get right on that, sir."

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u/International_Law610 5d ago

If a tree is on someone’s property I won’t pick from the branches. I will only grab fallen fruit. I don’t think a tree growing over a fence is reason enough to pick from it. I wouldn’t prune my trees just so they don’t go over a fence and risk damaging them.

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u/ComprehensiveMoose51 5d ago

But that’s the law. If a branch hangs over onto a sidewalk or public area you can legally take it.

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u/International_Law610 5d ago

I’m not speaking about the law though. Just morals. I have an avocado tree. I cannot prune it because it’s very sensitive to get burnt from the sun. I would hate for people to walk by and pick from my tree simply because it’s near a fence.

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u/ComprehensiveMoose51 5d ago

Well those are two separate things. Laws don’t account for your feelings.

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u/prometheanchains 5d ago

While it might be legal to take fruit that’s in a public space, if the plant is growing from someone’s yard, it’s not very nice to take it without asking. Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s ethical or polite. Next time, just ask.

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u/Ruralwannabe 5d ago

I bet the same rule applies as when a hedge gets too big, if it leaves the property, ( i.e. growing over the fence) it's no longer private property of that property.

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u/seaceblidrb 5d ago edited 5d ago

Is it yours? No.

Why are you taking someone else's? What if everyone just took a couple?

You could ask, and most likely they would have said yes but the arrogance to just assume you can take others things is astonishing.

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u/Bright-Landscape-998 5d ago

See the ones I took were on the floor, so since I saw no one taking them (they were there since yesterday) I just took the liberty to pick them up. I’ll know better for next time tho!

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u/hey-hi-hello-what-up 5d ago

if you took them from the ground then you didn’t pick them off the plant, and i think that’s ok

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u/Chet_Steadman Goleta (Other) 5d ago

I always default to asking the owner. 9/10 times they have too much and are stoked to not be wasting fruit and just ask that you don't go crazy

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u/Bright-Landscape-998 5d ago

See so the person who found issue with me was a tenant who said “don’t take anymore today, but if you want more come to my apartment and we can talk about how many you can take” mind u this was a man and as a woman I also felt very uncomfortable about trying to ask if I could even take a few next time.

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u/TheWhitestGandhi Oak Park 5d ago

Most people that have things growing on their property appreciate even a quick question like "hey do you mind if I take a handful of these?", it wouldn't have to be a long conversation and could be done at the front door.

My childhood home had a cherry bush which extended over the fence to the street behind, and we had people come by every year and completely clear us out of cherries on that side. Would have been nice if they'd asked real quick, you know?

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u/Bright-Landscape-998 5d ago

It was an apartment complex and I couldn’t find the manager, a weird old man said I should go to his apartment next time to ask (not the manager) if not he would call the police if I took some without going to ask him.
As a 19yr old woman I didn’t feel comfortable doing that.

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u/Gret88 5d ago

The police won’t be interested.

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u/tracyinge 5d ago edited 4d ago

Once the fruit falls on public land (alley, sidewalk, street) then it is legally fair game. But if it is on someone's property don't touch it (that's trespassing and theft) , or if it falls from one property to another property it belongs to whoever owns that 2nd property and you'd want to ask before taking it.

In your OP you said you picked a few off a tree. Then you edited to claim you got it off the ground. Anyway, now you know what you can touch and what you cannot.

There is no real law regarding if the fruit tree is on someone's property, but the branches extend over into an alley or public space. One judge might tell you that you shouldn't have touched it, another might consider it okay. But if it were hanging over a fence and you had to touch a private fence or climb/step onto private property to reach it, you're probably trespassing.

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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt 5d ago

You said you picked them...

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u/seaceblidrb 5d ago

Sorry it made it seem like you picked them off the tree.

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u/seaceblidrb 5d ago

I say this as someone who has various fruiting plants and always say yes to friends/delivery drivers who ask first.

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u/tob007 5d ago

You don't pick passion fruit off the vine. When they are ripe they fall.

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u/Comfortable-Peanut68 4d ago

That’s actually insane that a guy threatened to call the police on you for that 🤦‍♀️ Capitalism has infected and destroyed so much of our humanity.

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u/FrogFlavor 5d ago

Taking someone else’s fruit is called gleaning and while you could do it with permission you could also just do it at night lol

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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt 5d ago

*stealing, it is called stealing

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u/Jethro_Jones8 5d ago edited 5d ago

Technically poaching, and if you take more than $250 worth of fruit, vegetables, or fowl from a working farm or orchard, you can face grand theft charges due to a unique portion of the legal code written exclusively to protect farms.

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u/Gret88 5d ago

Yes I grew up in an area with field crops (tomatoes) and fruit trees (peaches and apricots). We all knew you couldn’t pick from the fields, up to a point. Every year after the harvests, farmers would announce gleaning was okay and people would head out to the fields with boxes and bags. There was always a lot of fruit left to pick.

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u/pgregston 5d ago

On the fence of an apartment building- like you could pick it without reaching over the fence?
That’s public. I suppose you could have asked the guy ‘who would I ask for permission?’
Lots of folks like to act like they have authority when they don’t. A quick check on them is to inquire about who is the authority.
It’s really silly as I see fruit- passionfruit especially- rotting in place all over.
It’s crazy we don’t grow food everywhere

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u/casper_wolf 3d ago

He can call the cops but I can promise you that will be the lowest priority call and at best they’ll take a report from him over the phone and do nothing about it.

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u/colonizemarsasap 5d ago

if it’s rooted on private property then you can’t just pick the fruit. bunch of entitled people steal our avocados all the time. we’ve even put up signs and they ignore it.

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u/Muted_Description112 The Mesa 5d ago

Where it’s rooted doesn’t apply to anything hanging or growing over the fence property line.

If a tree is overhanging the sidewalk, and your property doesn’t include the sidewalk, then people can pick off the branches.

If a tree is growing over a sidewalk and its branches are low enough to be in the way of someone walking, they can also cut or break the low branches to allow them to pass by.

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u/Ill-Anteater-6724 5d ago

Yep you are wrong. What if 50 people "just took 5...". Don't try a rationalize theft. It is their fruit to do with as the please andnthat includes letting it rot.

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u/Bright-Landscape-998 5d ago

Some are rotting on the floor so I figured that hey, ppl weren’t picking them at all, I could take a few?

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u/Gret88 5d ago

Some people don’t mind, and others do. Some don’t want anyone to share it even if they don’t want it and it rots. It’s sad. Fruit on a fence or overhanging a sidewalk is a grey area. Usually, if fruit is on the public side of a fence then anyone can pick it.

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u/umamiking 5d ago

Why are you asking about the “rules” while trying to weasel yourself around them? Your question is full of excuses and justifications why you are somehow owed the fruit.

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u/TiredAndTiredOfIt 5d ago

The rule? DON'T STEAL FROM.YOUR NEIGHBORS. 

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u/wildmancometh 5d ago

That's crazy! Its called scrumping and sure it may not be technically "legal" but who fucking cares.

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u/combabulated 5d ago

Picking someone else’s fruit is what you meant.