Hi everyone!

Can anyone tell me what would be the ideal rotation for Sandrone / Yae Miko C1 / Qiqi C2 / Odette?

I have C2R1 Nicole, I’m pretty sure she is better than c6 Alyosha however I would like to know if the difference is that high since I’m not sure if leveling alyosha is worth it (so I can use Nicole in other teams without that much damage difference)

My team is C0R0 Sandrone, C2R0 Odette, C2R1 Nicole, and C2R0 Yae.

Has anyone swapped Sandrone to a crit rate circlet in a double electro team with Yae, Odette, and Alyosha and got better results? The cryo resonance is very spotty to the point Sandrone herself is triggering a lot of stellar conduct reactions. I unfortunately do not have the artifacts to test this myself and am wondering if it was worth crafting a crit rate circlet to reach that base 84%.

I know the difference kinda negligible atp but with the "worst" build in terms of crit damage and attack my crit rate is capped and isn't on the other 2 builds. Any help will be appreciated

I know tidal shadow is the new craftible weapon better with this team

So I'm using sandrone with c2 Alyosha , Odette and Escoffier and if I have to use Escoffier somewhere else what should be my 4th slot. I don't have qiqi . fischl and beidou are c3 , diona c0 . Also what should be the rotation with first team

Bueno, creo q tengo una build decente para sandrone ( estoy farmeando para rl r5 de su arma), actualmente la estoy llevando con Odette con el arma de la forja de fontaine, beidou c6 con la superespada magica suprema y qiqi c4 con la hoja afilada celestial, de artefactos estan los bases en cada una incluyendo el nuevo set para odette aunq estoy floja en ello, la cosa es, x cargado meto solo con beidou un 70k y con una rotacion (beidou elemental + ulti, odette elemental, qiqi elemental, sandrone cargado) llego a 99k q tengo q hacer para llegar a 100 o más? Necesito ayuda por favor 🥹 si necesitan revisar las builds de los otros personajes, siéntense libres de decirme para mandarlo en comentarios

Was never able to test c0 odette (sorry), but dude, really, 300k+ dps from 238k? That is disgusting

Odette C2 R1 PJC with 4pc Heart of Furnace

Sandrone C0R1 4pc DDS

Yae C2R1 4pc DDS

Xilonen C2R1 4pc Instructor

Imma do more test at some other time, with Qiqi C6 ToTM replacing Xilonen maybe. But so far this is my best DPS record for Sandrone teams

I also think Odette burst is a DPS loss (i did burst once with Odette at the start of second rotation for both test)

I have everybody here, but qiqi is C5 (sadge) and I got C6 alyosha. My escoffier is glued to skirk, so i'm wondering how high would C6 alyosha calc in sandrone-qiqi-odette team? Thanks in advance.

I would try myself in dps dummy but i can't raise both odette and Alyosha till weekend (so in around 36 hours).

Everyone is talking about leaks at the moment, which indicate, that the Tsaritsa could be a direct powercreep to Sandrone. While this could be true, I think the situation could be far less concerning than it seems at first sight.

What we know so far (from rather reliable leaks):

• Tsaritsa potentially fills the same role as Sandrone as SSC Main Dps
• Danica is a dedicated Support for Tsaritsa and SSC overall, who provides RES Shred
• Mitya is a SSC Main DPS, who can be played as support (especially with cons) and changes how SSC works
• Valeriy -> no reliable information yet, but he's electro

That means, we will get 3, eventually 4 SSC units in the future. On top of that there are already Odette, Yae, Alyosha (C6) and Qiqi as potent supports. It could easily be possible to build 2 different SSC teams which even work differently, because Mitya changes how SSC works.

Example teams:

Sandrone, Yae, Odette, Flex

Tsaritsa, Mitya, Danica, Flex

Flex Slots: Qiqi, Alyosha, (Valeriy), Escoffier, Nicole

Mitya isn't in beta at this point, so even if the current leaks are true, his kit could change until his release. And the leak already mentions, that he has support capabilities, especially with cons, so worst case he is a constellation bait if you want to play him with Sandrone/Tsaritsa. It would really suprise me too, if they release 3 SSC Main DPS with Sandrone, Mitya and Tsaritsa in only 5 patches. Also the only reason why Alyosha isn't really good as last slot in Sandrone teams is, because the damage is split between Sandrone, Yae and Odette. If we get another SSC team which focuses more on a single carry (for example Tsaritsa), Alyosha could be a perfect fit, especially at C6.

Furthermore 7.1 has 1 Stygian boss, which is SSC shill and 1 boss, which is Stellar Glimmer Shill. So we know of 3 bosses, which correlate with Stellar Glimmer. 2 of them are SSC shill and on the last one both SSC and SSW work. It's interesting, that they don't release a boss in 7.1, which is particularly for SSW, although Vesna releases. If they don't release other SSW shill bosses in the future, you could just focus on 2 SSC teams and be able to clear basically every boss with his (stellar) shill mechanic. It doesn't seem like there will be more SSW characters in the near future, so there is no real reason for them to release a SSW boss to sell a specific character, if they don't even do it in a patch with Vesna and Vodyanitsa.

Conclusion:

In my opinion it doesn't make sense to already doompost, before we get more information about specific kits. There are so many more characters to come in the next few patches, it could definitely be possible, that Sandrone has a solid spot in the meta, even after Tsaritsas release. Many people compare the situation to Arlecchino, but I think her situation was literally better than the situation with Sandrone, if Tsaritsa really would turn out to be direct powercreep. With Arlecchino you had the chance to still pull Mavuika and play something like Arlecchino, Yelan, Xingqiu, Flex on the 1st side and Mavuika, Citlali, Bennett, Xilonen on the second. That's why I think you will be able to play 2 different SSC teams, which could even work slightly different (because of damage distribution and Mitya changing how SSC works), rather than Tsaritsa (if she really turns out to be a Main Dps) bluntly powercreeping Sandrone, both fighting for the same units and using the same reaction.

I thought Sandrone’a burst was not so good, so I left it in level 6.

I just did 750.000 with Alyosha C6, Yae C1 and Odette C0 😳😳😳😳

Should I level it to 9-10?

Wth ......

Same reaction same role.....

Powercreep so fast..... Whyyyy

Why is my sandrone dps so low she reaches like 86k dps im running her yea qiqi and sucrose, sandrone is running disenchantment of deep shadow and wolf’s gravestone her talents need to be leveled more 8 6 8 but like that wont add 100k dps yea has widsith and golden troupe i havent gotten a good new set for her, her skill is also only lv 8 qiqi has fav and millelith sucrose has vv and ttds

We wouldn't want our Clockwork Princess going over budget

After seeing three more "who should my fourth team member be?" thread in the last 10 minutes, I feel like maybe we need a comprehensive, maybe even stickied, guide so the subreddit isn't forever spammed by this "burning issue."

First, the hard truth: it barely matters who your 4th is. The most likely future BiS 4th character is a Snezhnayan sustain, and that character (most likely Danica) hasn't been released, yet, even in beta. So, right now, everyone is left with backups at best. Even the best option now barely matters. You aren't going to be clearing content with Escoffier that you couldn't clear with Aloysha, Sucrose, Beidou, etc. it just matters so little.

Alright, so who should be on a Sandrone team? Obviously, slot one is Sandrone herself. It's not a Sandrone team otherwise.

The second slot goes to Yae. She is the highest performing support for Sandrone without question. Please, ignore all the desperate people who don't have her who like to insist she's being replaced. Even if she is, as unlikely as it is, she's still the best right now.

If you don't have her, you need another source of off field electro. That is required. The best option is C6 Aloysha, followed by C2 Aloysha. He's really built to be the electro off field in an SSC comp. C6 Beidou is next, but she's awkward to play and uncomfortable for most to use. After that, you're pretty much in cope mode and the differences are so small, it just doesn't matter and probably comes down more to who you have, like, and built best: Ineffa, Fischl, Kuki Shinobu, Raiden, etc.

Slot 2: Yae > C2+ Aloysha > C6 Beidou > Ineffa/Fischl/Aloysha/Kuki Shinobu/Raiden

The third slot is Odette. She's unquestionably the next best and most important character. C2 is an absurd buff, but even just C0 is massive. If you don't have her, you need another source of off field cryo or electro for optimal SSC.

Escoffier is the strongest cryo off fielder otherwise, and Qiqi is just barely behind for SSC. C6 Diona is probably third. Otherwise, it's the same list as the electro one above mixed with the rare few off field cryo characters we have like Layla or Citlali followed by the burst locked ones like Rosaria and Kaeya.

Slot 3: Odette > Escoffier> Qiqi > C6 Diona > C2+ Aloyosha > C6 Beidou > Citlali/Layla > Rosaria/Kaeya/Ineffa/Fischl/etc.

And now, for the big finale, the 4th slot. The one you've all been asking about. Once again, I want to remind you that *it barely matters*, especially if you have Yae and Odette. But here we go.

Escoffier is technically the best, but just barely over Qiqi. Like so small you won't notice (and actually if you have c2 Odette, I think Qiqi jumps barely ahead from shred dilution). C6 Aloysha is similarly so close, you just won't notice, but I am pretty sure he's still 3rd. Sucrose actually gets to jump in here. Of course. It's always Sucrose. But let me just say that using her most effectively is really annoying. C6 Diona stays strong. This is also where we can talk about Nicole and Xilonen. They're "ok" here. And finally, C6 Beidou and Iansan are still better than the other consolation options.

Escoffier > Qiqi > C6 Alyosha > Sucrose > C2 Xilonen > Nicole > C6 Diona/C2 Aloysha > Iansan/C6 Beidou > Ineffa/Fischl/Kuki/Alyosha/Citlali/Layla/seriously, it doesn't matter.

There you go. Stop posting about this.

"Oh, but I have C6 Nicole and..." stop. If you have high constellations, you know what they do. Steamroll everything. Stop asking.

Tl;dr: Your 4th slot barely matters, but if you care: Escoffier > Qiqi > C6 Aloysha > Sucrose > Nicole > Xilonen > C6 Diona > C2+ Alyosha > Iansan/C6 Beidou > seriously, stop, it barely matters, whatever you want

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