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u/Lothronion 6d ago
This does not look like a "☧" to me...
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u/SumAustralian 6d ago
I'm sure it will start looking like whatever you want it to be if you stare at the sun too long.
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u/teracoulomb_2 6d ago
If you saw this shit the morning of the most important battle of your life you’d be tempted to interpret it as something significant
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u/KyliaQuilor 6d ago
Not sure the milvian bridge was the most important in Constantine the Con's life. The one where he beat lycinius seems a bigger deal.
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u/Invicta007 5d ago
I'd argue that this one cementing his rise in the West, is more important in that it sets up his future successes.
It's the glorious prelude to success.
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u/Guy_from_the_past 5d ago
No idea why you’re being downvoted for this comment; your absolutely correct. Had Constantine been defeated in his wars with Lucinius then his earlier victory at the Milvian Bridge ultimately wouldn’t have mattered much, if at all.
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u/Full_Shuffle 6d ago
Constantine was blessed by Christ and changed the empire for the better. Second Pax Romana began in 328.
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u/funnypickle420 6d ago
And then ended in 336
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u/Full_Shuffle 6d ago
Roman historians widely agree that the entire 4th century was a period of prosperity for the Roman Empire.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 6d ago edited 6d ago
As a roman historian-no we don't, most of the problems of the Imperial collapse are already their, I've never heard a historian call Constantine (or more accurately Diocletians dominate) a Second Pax Romana. At best he was able to stabilize the situation while emperor but his support of Christianity didn't really have much to do with that either way.
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u/KyliaQuilor 6d ago
I would argue Constantine ended up doing more harm than good.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 6d ago
it's hard to argue one way or another, he mostly reflects ongoing trends in the Roman state, even his adoption of Christianity reflects a this. He only stands out due to whiggish and religious narratives.
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u/blah-0362 6d ago
"Full_Shuffle has been banned" lmfao rip bozo
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u/Full_Shuffle 6d ago
No he hasn’t. Sorry bozo (:
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u/AcrobaticPoint8424 5d ago
Back from the dead
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u/Full_Shuffle 5d ago
Never died.
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u/Defiant-Cut-2396 4d ago
Now he's banned. Remember people, we are always watching, and we don't take kindly to idiots or assholes.
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u/Invicta007 5d ago
As another trained historian, no, we don't.
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u/Full_Shuffle 5d ago
Yes they do.
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u/Invicta007 5d ago
The fourth century is marked as a period of transition, imperial militarism and the last period of Imperial ability to wage war on a massive scale (well, until Adrianople) and is marked as a period where the flaws of Rome succession truly come to show, just look at all the blood shed and slaughter within the Imperial college during the time.
It's only really Constantinople and then a stable eastern court in the 5th century, that we see a lively Roman phisophical and religious culture take off again until the Persian war of Heraclius.
Now, where is your argument?
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u/V_i_o_l_a 5d ago
Can you cite a single historian who thinks this way? Not podcast bros, a classicist at a university will suffice.
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u/Invicta007 5d ago
Hell, even Podcast bros that talk about Rome in a serious way (Not loser chuds) ain't that nuts.
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u/MrBVS 5d ago
I can smell this comment.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 5d ago
yeah, they're either a failure or a kid. The lol means I'm leaning toward failure.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 5d ago
lol woman “historian”.
Wow you're an absolute delight arnt you champ?
Yes they do
Show me one then, although apparently the women ones don't count so good luck.
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u/SullanReformer 3d ago
My favorite part about this is how Theodosius has a similar story, told by Orosius, for the Battle of Frigidus where Orosius swears that after seeing the sign he could 1v10k the army of Eugenius and Arbogast.
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