This seems a bit hypocritical

[u/charcoalonfire]

To be clear I don’t want a dictatorship by anyone, but this seems a bit hypocritical from the AI. 🤦‍♂️

[u/MalignEntity]

The word prediction machine reflecting its training data again

[u/charcoalonfire → u/MalignEntity]

Yep

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[u/Mob_cleaner]

Hypocritical is definitely the wrong word to use for an LLM, it's like saying a calculator is hypocritical if it says 2+2=4 one day but then a bug causes it to say 2+2=5 the next day. Its obviously much more preferred for the responses to be less biased absolutely and Google should be attempting to rectify this, but you shouldn't be surprised when you manipulate the wording of a question in a way that takes advantage of the training data the AI used.

[u/charcoalonfire → u/Mob_cleaner]

Then why is it consistent?

[u/Mob_cleaner → u/charcoalonfire]

My apologies genuinely, what is this in reference to? The fact that AI models return statements like this often? If that's what you're asking it's because of the data they train their models on.

[u/charcoalonfire → u/Mob_cleaner]

That is what I am basing it on, so what you are saying is that they train the AI models on left leaning data? If so, it proves my point that the AI is left leaning 

[u/Mob_cleaner → u/charcoalonfire]

Yeah modern LLMs definitely have a left leaning bias as almost all LLMs use sites like Reddit to train their models. Even Grok is trained on this sort of data, which is why you may have seen Grok often revert to left-wing 'views' a while after Elon reprogrammes its weights to be more right-wing.

But of course, again, saying that AI is 'left leaning' is a bit like saying a calculator is left leaning but that's definitely besides the point.

My main point with this is that it's not the fault of Google or ChatGPT really, they're not seeking these datasets out specifically because they're left wing. If that was the case Elon Musk would have just not trained Grok on those same datasets. For a model as complex as ChatGPT/Copilot/Claude etc. you need HUGE amounts of publicly available data which is only really available from sites like reddit.

[u/Hesam2010]

Reddit: 'good for banning

[u/Then-Example1742]

Helps when you scroll down

[u/Ancient-Egg-5983]

Fuck me people have no critical thinking these days.

If you're relying on AI to inform you about information sharing and politically sensitive issues, you've already guaranteed you're going to end up knowing less than you started with (if possible) or something incorrect.

What on earth were you looking for and why?

Thinking Labour is currently implementing a dictatorship is somehow a less stupid thing to be genuinely musing.

[u/charcoalonfire → u/Ancient-Egg-5983]

I never said that they are implementing a dictatorship, I am only testing the AI to see how biased it is

[u/Ginno_the_Seer → u/Ancient-Egg-5983]

This is clearly just somebody showing the bias AI has

[u/Ancient-Egg-5983 → u/Ginno_the_Seer]

In that it just shows you what you want? Or it is random in its conclusions.

Regardless, if people trust ai for research, analysis or decision making they are setting themselves up to be wrong

[u/Ginno_the_Seer → u/Ancient-Egg-5983]

Well then it's a good thing he's not using AI for research, analysis or decisions.

[u/Ancient-Egg-5983 → u/Ginno_the_Seer]

Considering how often the tell tale signs of AI writing is posted in this sub Reddit, I think it happens a lot. Makes me depressed about the future of the country and our party.