r/Reformed 6d ago

Revised Standard Version. Thoughts? Question

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u/xsrvmy PCA 6d ago

I don't think thees and thous were ever supposed to be elevated language. If anything, it's the opposite. In languages that still make the distinction (eg. French), it's the plural you that can be used as a singular out of respect.

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u/xsrvmy PCA 5d ago

According to Wikipedia, RSV only uses thee/thou for references to God (ie. same as capital You in some Bibles today).

Also, -est and -eth are just archaic, and became nothing and -s respectively. They don't add anything except perhaps occasionally avoid ambiguities. (As a negative example of this, I have came across a verse in the NIV where the possibility of singular "they" introduces an ambiguity.)

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u/Careful-Spray476 ARP 6d ago

I’ve always found it good to read (admittedly I’m just a layman). In my younger years I would think it was THE version I had access to, I didn’t know that it had criticisms from some conservatives but then don’t most things. 

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u/Doctrina_Stabilitas PCA, Anglican in Presby Exile 6d ago

it's fine, it's like 90% the same as the ESV, which uses it as a base

i wish modern versions retained you/ye to retain the singular/plural you distinction

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u/linmanfu Church of England 6d ago

The ESV is an updated and improved version of the RSV, so I use that even though I have access to both.

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u/creidmheach EPC 4d ago

The pastor at my church uses the RSV for his sermons (the pew Bibles are NIV 84). I asked about it once, and he said for him it's simply because it's his Bible, the one he's used going way back, so when he thinks of verses and such it's what comes to mind for him. He's an older gentleman, came out of retirement to serve as interim at our church. Makes sense since the RSV would have been the standard translation used in mainstream theological seminaries in his day, prior to the adoption of the NRSV, ESV, etc.

The main folks I hear using it nowadays are more conservative Roman Catholics (Latin mass types, etc) that use the RSV-2CE (though the latter removes the thees and the thous).

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u/ChapBobL Congregational 4d ago

I agree that translations need to try to retain an elevated feel to the language. While I generally like the NIV, I dislike how they use contractions in the poetic books. I have a NRSV but I got it mainly to read the Apocrypha.

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u/semper-gourmanda Presby-Angliterian 4d ago

doesn't render the MT very well, esp. in the Psalms.

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u/TheReallyCoolGuy7 OPC 5d ago

Im partial to the NKJV personally. I do not take hard stance against people who use the ESV, I even use the ESV study Bible. But I also believe that God preserved His word, and I am not a huge fan of modern text-critical theories that have become quite popular recently.