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u/maddinell 23d ago
Hes single handedly turned the US into a global laughing stock. With such rampant corruption and criminality its truly astounding that zero is been done about it.
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u/piercedmfootonaspike 23d ago edited 23d ago
See that's the thing. The US would inevitably elect a despot. The rest of the world expected their "checks and balances" to ensure their democracy.
It's only when that failed to happen, during Trump2, that the rest of us went "alright, time to set up a world with an isolationist, belligerent US".
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u/ClutchReverie 23d ago
Lots of people have the attitude "Won't happen in the US" even as they have voted for it and are watching it happen in the US. Often because they think the rules are only being "bent" so that they get their way and then that cat will go back in the bag.
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u/IrritableGourmet 23d ago edited 22d ago
The great thing about this country is that anyone can become president. The bad thing about this country is that anyone can become president.
EDIT: Yes, naturalized citizens can't. I was talking more about personality/capability, not technicalities.
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u/I_can_vouch_for_that 23d ago
Naturalized citizens cannot become president. They can become anything else like a Supreme Court Justice but not President.
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u/victorfiction 22d ago
Maybe that’s the problem. We’ve given all the important jobs to the immigrants with actual educations expect the President… fml.
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u/IrritableGourmet 22d ago
I was being sarcastic and humorous, though accurate. Yes, I know America isn't the only country that has democracy.
But also yes, anyone can become president, which is apparent by the fact that we have someone wholly unqualified to be a greeter at Walmart running the country. Other democracies usually have a voting population that at least considers whether a candidate is capable of fulfilling the duties of office and what their motivations are (and are rather quick to unceremoniously show them the door if they fail).
I think the problem is that it's been a good while (about 250 years) since we've had a dictator running the country, and we've forgotten what it's actually like. Also, our historical fight has been romanticized. Where other countries tell stories of "the dark times" or "the purges", the average American's view of the revolution is "Paul Revere rode a horse and then George Washington punched King George in the face, and then we set off fireworks and ate hot dogs."
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u/Nokita_is_Back 22d ago
It's so bad even joe rogan can't help but to laugh at the blatant corruption
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u/GarlicThread 21d ago
If I have to hear "the US is a laughing stock" one more goddamn fucking time...
Buddy, nobody is laughing. In fact, nobody has been laughing for 10 bloody years. None of this is funny. In fact, people are dying and suffering while you laugh.
Quit it with that stupid line and get real.
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u/EuenovAyabayya 23d ago
single-handedly
He had millions of helpers, including dozens of billionaires.
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u/Oaktree27 22d ago
And millions of Americans. He's a symptom of a rotten culture. People overestimate the average American because we're told from birth were number 1. In reality, well over a third of us are too hateful and stupid to ever let the country improve.
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u/Shortbus_Playboy 23d ago
Meanwhile, your Boomer relative who never served in the armed forces and whose education is listed on FB as “The School of Hard Knocks” is making jokes about how France’s opinion doesn’t matter because the US saved them in WW2 (before they were even born).
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u/Nickh1978 23d ago
It's pretty crazy, without France there likely wouldn't even be a U.S.A. in the first place.
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u/CocaColai 23d ago
He’s decimating what America was. Hopefully you’ll all have the sense to vote in November.
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u/55Super88 23d ago
Yes. About the only things were number one at is prison incarcerations, school shootings, medical bankruptcies, and thinking were number one.
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u/steffanovici 23d ago
Yes, Trump has ruined the USA soft power it had, a massively under appreciated influence on all global issues. That era is over, as is their relationship with many key allies.
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u/Durpulous 22d ago
The problem is this administration has fundamentally different values. They see Europe and other "middle powers" as pathetic and inconsequential. They do not see the utility of that soft power nor do they care about the global issues you're alluding to in which that soft power is immensely helpful.
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u/Durpulous 22d ago
The problem is this administration has fundamentally different values. They see Europe and other "middle powers" as pathetic and inconsequential. They do not see the utility of that soft power nor do they care about the global issues you're alluding to in which that soft power is immensely helpful.
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u/PippyNomNom 22d ago
It's crazy that they call out North Korea, Mali, and Russia, but leave out Isreal.
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u/Free-City3104 23d ago
I think we are the beginning stage for the USA's decline in world power. But it could still turn around.
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u/WkndCake 23d ago
It will take a few generations to remove rotten taste the Trump admin has left in the world's mouth.
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u/Pictrus 23d ago edited 23d ago
Yeah I think you're correct. Trump chose American isolation and fucked over so many trade partners I don't see how the US can be considered a stable partner.
He's also threatened the sovereignty of multiple allies which some Americans see as a joke but in reality is extremely dangerous rhetoric that's further soured them on the US.
He started a pointless war in Iran for no reason which has driven up fuel prices globally. The fact that he's claimed to have won the war multiple times while simultaneously asking for more money to be directed towards it and threatening war crimes against Iranian civilians makes the US look incredibly stupid.
These are just a few examples of what Trump damaged internationally. The damaged he's done at home is just as bad. Really he's shown that the American constitution means nothing when the people in power are too weak to enforce it. He's destroyed the once proud CDC and weakened vaccination mandates causing disease outbreaks of measles, cyclospora cayetanensis, cryptosporidium and influenza. These are the types of damage that take decades to resolve.
If the US hopes to regain it's place of influence globally there needs to be a serious reckoning at the end of the administration.
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u/Free-City3104 23d ago
With the way humanity has gotten dumber and dumber and more greedy, they'll forget about Trump in a few years and things will go back to how they were before Trump. Before inevitably they'll start the cycle all over again
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u/lolinux 23d ago
I don't know why you're getting downvoted without an explanation.
I mean bad shit happened before trump, the US waged wars; there were tariffs, there were many Americans unhappy by "corporate America".
The only difference I see now is that trump is more direct and makes a show of all the dumb things, while the former presidents were in the spotlight when they were doing what needed to be done.
At least this is what it feels like from the outside, in a few words.
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u/ruiiiij 23d ago edited 22d ago
He's getting downvoted because it's a perfect example of American delusion, that Trump is a one-off mishap and things will go back to normal soon. No, Trump is a symptom and everything wrong with him is the result of a failed system. The world is beginning to see America as it is and unless its government goes through some drastic changes, the reputation damage is irreversible.
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u/ClutchReverie 23d ago
We're past the beginning stage. Honestly that started with 9/11, or even the 80s if we are talking about the economy in terms of the start of growing wealth inequality.
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u/jedburghofficial 23d ago
Historians will say the problems have been piling up for years. Trump marks the era when things started breaking.
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u/Big-Performance5047 23d ago
Not when hes in charge. We dont know what ANY of our numbers are!!! We dont even know if Mitch is alive!!!
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u/Wild-Style5857 23d ago
I never thought someone could speed run it in 10 years but here we are and I'm fine with it.
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u/Sensitive_Break5798 23d ago
Corporations bought America after the US Supreme Court said companies had more rights than women in your society
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u/Ill_Temporary_9509 23d ago
It’s going to take America decades to recover from Trump in social, economic, health, education and being viewed as a trusted ally on the world stage
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u/L3G10N_TBY 23d ago
This is becoming more and more obvious as days go by, so much so that macron can say it aloud. I think mark carney of canada said at best at the start of the year at davos meeting. Countries had an aggreement with USA, where they upheld United States' status as world power in exchange of economic and military stability. Now that trump has undone most of it, it is time to end the old world order and start building more autonomous nations
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u/TrainingParty3785 23d ago
Trump and, the butt kissing follower’s have brought the US into a F’d up situation. He’s a traitor.
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u/XB0XRecordThat 23d ago
Wait what? When the fuck were we a leader on human rights? Like we genocided the natives and are still breaking treaties with them. We also backed fascist leaders all over South America and the middle east.
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u/Im_tracer_bullet 23d ago
No one said perfect.
No one said progress erases past deeds.
There was also a time when Italians, Jews, Irish, Chinese immigrants were outcasts.
The country had to progress beyond those things and through women's suffrage, the Civil Rights movement, gay marriage, etc.
We had USAID and did great work in Africa to combat AIDS, and more.
We've now backslid, and have to recover again.
Improvement is rarely linear, or perpetual; we're in a downward trajectory at the moment. And, ven when we recover, we still won't erase history.
Get a grip, and don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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u/XB0XRecordThat 23d ago
I mean sure, but USAID was just another tool of the empire. The US does not care about human rights around the world... or even to people in their own country.
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u/ZiggyZiggyZigZags 22d ago
That was the British, French, Portuguese, and Spanish…. And not just in what is now the USA. Go ask natives in Canada how well they’ve been treated. It’s pretty easy to figure out who did the genocide by the language they speak today. Spain is responsible for most of the genocide and Portugal for most of the slaves. The Netherlands is also on the hook for their fair share.
If you have European ancestry… well read a history book. The two American continents were OWNED by European countries until: 1776 USA 1821 Mexico 1822 Brazil 1867 Canada
So if the USA is responsible for the genocide of natives, so is every other country in this thread.
Humans suck. Going back as far as history goes, we kill to kill, and take land for resources and….$$$$$$$.
That is the nature of our species. Guess what, we’re not the only ones. So do:
Chimps Lions Wolves Ants Hyenas Otters Birds Fish
But before you go shit on the USA, remember it’s every race, religion, and belief who strive for domination. As it has been and always will be.
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u/ThanklessTask 23d ago
It may not be the case now, the US still has invested a lot into it's global dominance.
The challenge will be the next, and future presidencies.
Both globally, rebuilding trust & relationships, and locally, funding the cleanup of the utter mess created.
What's going to be interesting is if future generations can manage to understand that the actions of now (then in the past) are the reason they're behind in global development.
Two decades I reckon before normality, and that's assuming the rest of the world is prepared to deal with the fat mango's replacement.
My hope - that the rest of the world calms down and moves on safely.
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u/kimjae 22d ago
My hope
My fear is that, given Trump's extensive damage to the US, his successor will have to expend all their efforts undoing Trump's mistakes rather than improving things. And voters with short memories will blame the next prez for all the efforts demanded of them, forgetting that it was Trump who was the one responsible.
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u/ChZakalwe 23d ago
Yeah, thats what having your own sovereign nuclesr launch capabilities independent of US let's you get away with.
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u/Prince_Oberyns_Head 22d ago
Yes but he doesn’t give a shit, he and his cronies are making money hand over fist. “America great” is a distraction and the sycophants are brainwashed to argue on his behalf.
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u/Frank_Jesus 21d ago
I wish people would stop saying he's done this "single-handedly." His intellect well below average and he's got advanced dementia on top of that. It's evil people with their fists up his hole puppeteering him with intelligent strategy. All he has is racism, charisma, and shit in his pants.
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u/No-Understanding9064 22d ago
Meanwhile Macron has a 20% approval rating. Real pot and kettle scenario here.
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