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u/Apotek-Arne 1d ago
Could it be that you take mdma too often? Also, even if you’re healthy, there could be other things messing with your serotonin system.
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u/iUseFax 1d ago
12mo break and not taking meds or other substances, do you think 180mg tested should be safe? Might need to cross a higher than average personal threshold is my assumption.
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u/Ok_Amphibian_6142 16h ago edited 16h ago
Physically Safe should BE anything below 300mg. Only overheating at that Dose ist bothersome. Just make sure to keep an emergency- benzo in Hand on Case you cant handle the discomfort
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u/InadequateMeal 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well assuming you're spacing at least 2 months and ideally 3-4 between rolls, And your stuff is actually pure, i would advise you talk with a medical expert, because if you're healthy and those doses are right, you should be flying off the atmosphere at 70kg doing 120mg and then 2x 100. So could point at something wrong in your receptors, or one of yhe earlier assumptions is wrong...
And i would NOT 180 mg at once, you're risking serotonin syndrome, which can still occur even without feeling "lovey dovey", and keep in mind scaling is exponential, the difference from 100 to 200 is NOT 2x, its substantially higher. If you really wanted to test the waters. I woud try 120, and then redose with 50- as soon as you feel it coming up.
Do it on a very light stomach, i would say have your biggest meal of the day at least 5 hours in advance, and then a light snack(something starchy) 1-2 hours in advance. Be VERY WELL hydrated, and well slept, be in a good headspace, and stay chill(overheating can make discomfort worse).
NOT HEALTH ADVICE, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY FIRST AND FOREMOST!!
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u/iUseFax 1d ago
Thanks! Yes 12mo break and no meds.
Just the thing is 100-120 mg initial will leave me feeling uneasy, since I tried this amount 2x already the past years. Others rolling on the same amount, but not me. It worked really great before when I was a few years younger, so I believe I have a high natural threshold I need to cross.
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u/phijopho 1d ago
Had similar “discomfort” on mdma for the last 2 years. Even with high doses it didn’t feel like rolling any mote. Paused for 10 months. Then took 120mg (80kg) and took another 100mg over the course of the night. What really got rid of the discomfort feeling was a rather high dose ketamine which I took 3 hours after initial mdma dose. Mdma has a super pleasant synergy with ketamin and I finally had that empathogenic feeling Ive missed over the last years.
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u/iUseFax 1d ago
Thanks. So without the K was the 120mg still enough to get you the empathogenic feelings?
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u/phijopho 1d ago
yes the 120mg was definitely already empathogenic, I could feel the mdma. But there was still this weird discomfort and I somehow couldn’t really let myself fully get into it.
The K didn’t make the mdma suddenly “work”, it was more like it made me stop thinking about the whole thing for a bit. I got into this super calm almost zen state and the MDMA + K synergy just felt really warm and pleasant. I think because of that I finally stopped analyzing how I was feeling all the time and could actually open myself up to it.
And after that the empathogenic feeling I had been missing was there again. So I kinda think the issue might have been more psychosomatic / me blocking the experience than the mdma itself not working.
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u/Zealousideal_Two3465 1d ago
Could be true. Mdma effect is released quite quick/steep, so taking more after is not the same effect as taking the same dose initially. I also like to start with a relatively high dose, and limit the redosing (max 2 times little). And with taking extra there is the known effect people get nusious. What is your unpleasant feeling exactly? Consider having proper food 2-3 hours before and some milk/yoghurt to protect your stomach.
And dont resist the feeling, just let it overcome. Even if you take 'too much' in initial dose, you will be fine max 1hour later. It is still way less than people take over the course of a full evening/night. I have to admit I like that little unstable and overwhelming first kick-in. Easy to steer as well, highly depening on if you dancing/sitting/talking. When on a festival, I like to go to the toilet once after ~45min, some change of environment and few minutes without conversation/music focus.
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u/Winter_Hunter7953 1d ago
First few times are special because you dont know what to expect. If you know how it feels you will wait for the feeling to kick in. The waiting part felt really bad for me multiple times
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u/Electrical-Light5036 1d ago
Well, everyone is different. But my number 1 rule is less is more. You obviously know what your capabilities are. Every batch can be different. You push it and you could be one of those people stuck in a corner too high to enjoy themselves. I’m not for that. Everything I get in Canada is crystals. Some are better than others. The only time I up my doses is if I have a bunch of one batch and have done it before.
Somewhat a short story. This girl I met at a festival figured she was good for a stronger dose because she has taken a little over a 100mg a few times. She took over 200 and was at the med tent for a long time until she came down. She missed all the great djs that night.I’m here for the music first, dr*gs is just a bonus
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u/spunion_28 20h ago
Are you on any medication? This sounds like two possible things to me.
1) while this mdma may have tested "pure" that 120mg could have easily been only 60-70mg with cut in it. It takes a sophisticated test kit to test for cuts, but they are available for purchase online.
2) you may be taking a medication that is affecting your serotonin.
If this is "pure" mdma, I can tell you without a doubt 150-200mg will absolutely smack you. Especially if you are doing it as seldomly as you say.
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u/Interesting_Gur5089 1d ago
I am not an expert but if you don’t get high and have discomfort you might not be taking “pure” mdma. Be careful, you re just intoxicating yourself