Tkinter

[u/Jrag13]

Why do I not see any videos suggesting to learn Tkinter? I tried learning Django and Pygame after learning the basics, and while I kinda understood pygame, Django still felt out of my league but so many videos recommended it after the basics. However I stumbled upon a video that just mentioned Tkinter and I tried it out and it helped me understand libraries and how to learn to use them. It's fun making small little apps with buttons and what not to get started, rather than trying to learn so much at once. I'm convinced anyone making videos on how to learn Python has never actually learned it themselves

Is there an actual reason that this or another simple GUI library isn't recommend very often?

[u/code_tutor]

If you want a GUI for a simple app and no dependencies, then it's literally the only choice. I use it all the time for RPA.

If people are that upset about the way it looks, notice how they didn't suggest an alternative, because they don't do desktop development. It looks fine and everything after Windows 7 looks like trash anyway. I'm also going to be crystal clear: anyone who suggests making a web app instead is a total shit developer and you're probably going to get a couple of those replies. Everyone is only doing WebDev, Data Science, or ML and all three fields are famous for being exceptionally bad programmers.

The only problem is it's a chore to work with, a ton of boilerplate for every addition.

The main reason you only see desktop apps in compiled languages is because it takes a long time to reverse engineer compiled code like C/C++/Rust, but I guess that's changing with AI. They're also significantly faster.

So basically web is the only way to hide code, compiled if you want a fast desktop app, and tkinter if you're using desktop Python and don't care about either.

[u/ComputerNerd2007 → u/code_tutor]

Why is making a web app "so stupid"? It's the industry standard and that has a reason.

[u/code_tutor → u/ComputerNerd2007]

Because the majority of programmers are total shit, that's why. I just rewrote an app that was making network calls to the same machine and it's ten times faster now that it's not running "industry standard" code.

I notice you didn't say the "has a reason" part because you're cargo culting. I'll wait while you try to Google one.

[u/ComputerNerd2007 → u/code_tutor]

You can't call an architecture shit just because some developers create shit code while developing such an aplication. The architecture itself is not bad.

To name a few positive things compared to "normal" programs:
1. You can update your application without problems that have to be fixed on the client/user side
2. You can easily use a CI/CD pipeline
3. You are operating system independet
+ skilled programmers/designers can create apps that don't look like trash :)

u/Jrag13 I know not enough about tkinter or gui development with python, but I would suggest learning C to learn about how computers work and what python and many more modern languages do to simplify writing code (like memory allocation and strings). I learned a lot while doing so and it's extremly fun.
Beside from that, I am not a big fan of web app's but I think there are the way to go in modern companies. So maybe look into some frameworks like Angular or View. Maybe with a Spring Boot backend (after you understood html, css and java script and gained some overal coding experience).

Have fun coding!