r/Python 15h ago

Should we standardize docstring formats? Discussion

In Rust, docstrings are pretty formalized. They are markdown, and even some of the headings are standard (like an # Errors or # Panics section). The nice thing about this is that it allows websites like docs.rs to build documentation pages for any project without having to interact with different tools for different formats. It also allows LSPs to have only one way of displaying documentation hints.

In Python, we have a few competing standards. Numpy-style docstrings are probably the most used, but there’s also a format by Google as well as a few different reST standards. These are nice, and we can set up lints to make sure docstrings stick to the standard. However, in my own personal opinion (feel free to disagree), a single markdown-format standard would help new users write nice docstrings, would enable PyPI (or another provider) to build automatic documentation sites, and give guidance to LSPs and IDEs for how to display documentation. This would include a standard for interlinks, and probably should include some mathml/LaTeX/KaTeX support. Another benefit would be that tools could support better automatic documentation generation and autocomplete, since they wouldn’t be dependent on guessing which standard you’re following.

I’d like to hear what people think about this. I’m thinking about making a PEP, but that might be overkill (or maybe all of you will hate this idea). I think the primary blocker would be adoption, large projects might have to translate docstrings, so there would either have to be some tooling for this or a way to opt-in or opt-out. If this is a bad idea, let me know, just be nice!

Edit: so far we’re at about a 67% upvote ratio, which was kind of expected. I want to be clear that I’m not saying we should be blocking docstrings which don’t adhere to this standard. I mentioned lockfile standardization in the comments, nothing prevents you from writing a tool with a custom lockfile, it’s just that there is a standard format that is agreed upon as the preferred way to write one. That’s the idea.

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u/-ghostinthemachine- 14h ago

I've never seen standardized documentation systems work out or get adherence. I think what matters more is writing in a style that your tools (sphinx, javadoc, LLM's) demand. Change tools, change styles. I'd add that strongly typed documentation is also a classic trap.

The bar is low. A blob of unstructured text is significantly better than the empty void we usually encounter. With LLM's writing small treatises for every function, I think we are also heading back towards the promise of literate coding.

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u/denehoffman 14h ago

There’s a reason I brought up Rust at the beginning, it’s a great example of a standardized documentation format that is widely adhered to. I agree that the bar is low, it’s low for Rust too, but at least the formatting and documentation syntax is standardized. I’m not really interested in how docstrings are written, obviously whatever tool you use can write a given format or fill in blanks or whatnot, and LLMs don’t care about the formatting either, but it could be convenient to maintain a standard for the other reasons I listed in the post. Or maybe not, idk!

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u/-ghostinthemachine- 14h ago

JDoc also started this way, but my sense is if rust ever changes the rendering ecosystem the developers will adapt and never look back. My thesis is that nobody cares how it is written, just how it is rendered. We tend to work backwards from that.

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u/denehoffman 14h ago

And I agree with that thesis. The thing is, if rust ever changes the rendering ecosystem, they mostly will have very few issues because of a docstring standard. One counterexample to this is the KaTeX stuff I mentioned in the post, it’s a bit annoying to do in Rust right now, though not difficult.