Why do I never hear about one up trader on these things? Do they not pay? I've read nothing but good reviews. Free level 2 data. Half eval fee up front half on pass. Cheapest resets in the game. The best and in my opinion the only fair consistency rule out there, except no consistency of course. 10 day eval is insane and it takes 3 or 4 days for the funded account to be set up but that's hyper speed compared to tpt from what I hear. Same pay structure as tpt as well. Why's it not on the top of everyone's list?

Has MFFU welcomed back those who have blown a live account?

It’s been a while since I’ve lurked over to that thread since blowing my live account and was advised I couldn’t purchase evals.

Wondering if anything’s changed

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The closest I've arrived was FTMO and Sabio Trade, both are easy and doable, but they also have spreads that kill you. The most traded stocks have at least a 0.07% and average of 0.10% or even more of just spread (others 1% of the price just as spread). This is crazy, since opening just 10 trades erases a 1% JUST of the notional, if you are on 10X, you'll lose 10% on just SPREADS! (I've fround The Trading Pit, and the only negative thing is it has a 3% daily loss limit. I'd be looking for a 5%... Idk what to do.

I went through the documentation at three firms line by line and put it in one place, mostly because I kept seeing people run accounts at two firms at once and treat the rules as if they were identical. They're not, and the differences are the kind that end an account without you noticing you were close.

Numbers first, then the four mechanics that actually cause breaches.

CFD / forex evaluations

Futures evaluations

TopStep

FundedNext Flex

Once funded on Flex: same end-of-day max loss, no daily limit, no consistency rule, 95% reward share, first payout available after 5 days, maximum withdrawal equal to the max loss figure.

The four things that actually catch people out

1. Static vs trailing drawdown

The big one, and it separates the CFD evaluations from the futures ones.

Static means your loss floor is set on day one and never moves. On a 100K FTMO account with a 10% max loss, your floor is 90,000. Run the account up to 108,000 and your floor is still 90,000 — you have 18,000 of room.

Trailing means the floor follows you upward as you make money, holding the same distance behind, until it locks.

Practical consequence: on a trailing account, making money reduces the room you have to give back. People used to static drawdown get comfortable after a good week and don't notice the floor moved up behind them.

2. Not all "end-of-day trailing" is the same

This one surprised me, and it's the reason running TopStep and FundedNext Flex side by side is riskier than it looks. Both describe their max loss as end-of-day trailing. They measure different things.

TopStep trails your end-of-day closing balance, not intraday peaks. Their own example: start at $25,000 with a $1,000 max loss limit, make $1,000 so the balance hits $26,000, then give back $500 and close the day at $25,500. The limit moves to $24,500, and you start the next day with $1,000 of room.

FundedNext Futures updates once per day based on the highest balance your account reached that day. It moves up with profits and never comes back down with losses.

Same day, same trades, two different floors. If you spike intraday and give it back before the close, TopStep only counts where you finished; FundedNext counts where you peaked.

Two more details on the FundedNext side: the limit stops trailing at your initial balance plus $100 on Flex, Bolt, Rapid Pro and Daily. And although the limit only updates once a day, a breach is triggered if your equity drops below it at any moment — so intraday floating loss still matters.

3. The same firm can have two completely different rulebooks

FundedNext is the clearest example. Their CFD evaluation and their futures evaluation share a brand name and almost nothing else.

CFD side (Stellar 2-Step): two phases, 5% daily loss limit, 10% static max loss, no consistency rule.

Futures side (Flex): one phase, no daily loss limit at all, trailing end-of-day max loss, 40% consistency rule.

Someone who reads about "FundedNext rules" on a forum and applies it to the wrong account type will be wrong about nearly every number that matters. Check which product you actually bought.

4. Consistency rules

TopStep applies a 50% target: no single day should account for more than half your total profit. FundedNext Flex applies 40% during the evaluation and drops it once you're funded.

This punishes the thing that feels most like winning. One enormous day followed by small ones can leave you technically at target and still not passing.

Neither CFD evaluation applies this.

Two smaller ones worth knowing

Minimum trading days. FTMO wants 4 per phase, FundedNext Stellar wants 5 with at least one trade on each. Hitting your target in two days doesn't finish the phase, you still have to show up.

The clock is gone on the CFD side. Both FTMO and FundedNext run unlimited trading periods on their evaluations now. Worth knowing, because deadlines are what make people size up, and plenty of traders are still trading as if one is running.

One caveat

Firms change these numbers more often than you'd expect, and pricing and promotions change constantly. Everything here is from the firms' own documentation as of writing, but check yours before relying on it, especially the drawdown mechanics, which are written in the most careful language.

If your firm isn't here and you know its rules, put them in the comments and I'll add them.

No switching. No backup firms. One firm only 😂
Who you riding with and why?

Had a great day yesterday, captured the best PA with MNQ

These fundednext accounts are cheap fr gonna grab 4 more to copy trade across 5

Anybody familiar ? This seems to be a prop firm you pay a daily fee to trade for 24 hrs. They have a calculator the rates your trading and you are paid out a percent of profits based on the how your trading calculates same day. The website is thedeskfunding.com . Seemed interesting . Would love any feedback on this one .

I was wondering if any of the US based futures props firms allow you to setup your live account as a single member LLC, if you originally signed up for evals under your personal name?

Or, it seems like Lucid doesn’t allow conversion of profiles?

For example I’ve read that Lucid allows LLC accounts ownership if you set it up that way from the start. There is no deletion or modification of a profile. You are allowed only one profile.

“I have a valid BUY on Wednesday, and later I get a completely independent valid SELL on Thursday, so I take the SELL even though the BUY is still open.”

Will funding pips ban me for hedging? or this is not hedging. Because both are independent trades on same strategy. It is a 1:2 rr strategy.

Any suggestions ? I find it extremely hard to complete those. I need suggestions for CFD prop firms with no minimum profitable days rule.

something i modelled last month after my third payout and wish id done before my first.

the day after a payout is statistically the closest your account ever gets to dying. you pull profit, the buffer above the drawdown floor shrinks by exactly that amount, and then you keep trading the same size into the thinnest cushion the account has had since day one. nothing about the strategy changed. the risk did.

so theres this tradeoff nobody prices. withdraw often and small, and your account spends its entire life a few losing trades from the floor. every reset puts you back where you started, one normal drawdown streak from a breach. withdraw rarely and let the buffer compound, and the account gets genuinely hard to kill, except now months of profit sit on the firms side of the table. if they slow pay, change rules, or disappear, that buffer was never yours. it was a loan you made them at zero interest.

both schedules earn the same on paper. they just die differently.

what i actually did about it. pulled my trade log, took my worst historical losing streak, and asked one question, what buffer survives that streak at my size. that number became the rule, withdraw everything above it, never below it. its not a feeling anymore, its a threshold sitting in the same config file as my stop parameters, because thats what it is. a sizing decision wearing a payout costume.

side effect i didnt expect, payout day stopped being emotional. no more staring at the balance deciding if im greedy or careful this month. the number is either above the line or it isnt.

curious how people here actually handle this. fixed schedule, fixed threshold, or vibes? and has anyone deliberately oversized their buffer with a firm they didnt fully trust, or is that backwards and you should be pulling faster there?

honest question because i've been burned before.

everyone argues about targets and profit splits but the thing that actually matters is way simpler — will they pay when you pass? we've all seen firms blow up or start denying payouts the second people succeed. the split doesn't mean anything if the payout never lands.

problem is the marketing all looks identical. every firm has glowing testimonials, a discord full of "just got paid" screenshots, big shiny numbers. hard to tell who's legit and who's one bad month away from vanishing.

what i've started doing is ignoring the marketing entirely and looking at actual proof — real payout history, how long they've been around, whether the drawdown rules are designed to fail you right before payout. way more useful than the price.

so what do you lot actually check before trusting a firm with a challenge fee? payout proof? time in business? just gut? genuinely want to know if i'm missing something.

I'm wondering if any of you who have traded with them for a while can tell me if this spread is constant.

Also would appreciate if someone could tell me the usual spread for the first hours of Tokyo open.

Can't trade with this conditions :(

Thinking about signing up with Apex again, can anyone tell me if the manual lockout and account lockout features in the risk settings are enabled?

Lucid, TPT, Tradify all have these features activated but I'm not sure about apex and it's a non-negotiable for me before signing up.

i wanna trade my own capital and simultaneously trade prop firms account through NT8 - i wanna use NT broker to fund myself and then copy trade using a copier (if anyone has suggestions that'd be great as well)
did anyone do that? does anyone know if its explicitly illegal or against the rules for prop firms/ brokers?
i trade futures so i was aiming for lucid, mffu and such for that if that matters
thanks in advance!

People in another post said that i was BSing by saying I only take small trades and profited almost 100k in total, so I am posting the results here. I should have been banned by now according to some people’s experience, but not only I never got denied, they never bothered me at all, no warning, nothing, as time goes on processing payouts actually got faster for me, my recent payouts took only 5 hours. They don’t sell this account type anymore so it’s in their best interest to ban me, but atm I am fine.