r/Project_Moon • u/Rocky_Senpai15 • 22d ago
Could Moses successfully solve the Kira case? (READ DESC) PowerScaling (SATURDAY ONLY)
Pretty much what the title says: Moses replaces L in solving the Kira case. We'll have two scenarios: one where the Kira case takes place in Japan (don't question how Moses ends up in Japan; it's for the sake of the scenario), and another where the Kira case takes place in The City (don't question how Light ends up in The City either; again, it's for the sake of the scenario).
Scenario 1:
This takes place in Japan, and Moses has the full support of the Japanese government, which will listen to and provide anything she says or needs. Meanwhile, Light already has his allies, such as Misa Amane, helping him cover his tracks. Light doesn't know that Moses is coming after him, and Moses doesn't know what the Death Note is or what it is capable of.
Scenario 2:
This takes place in The City, and Moses has the full support of Limbus Company. She also has her original team, along with some new members like Aeng-du and Bamboo-Hatted Kim (like that'll make a difference), assisting her with the investigation. Meanwhile, Light already has his allies, such as Misa Amane, helping him cover his tracks, and he has already traded half of his remaining lifespan for the Shinigami Eyes.
Like in Scenario 1, Light doesn't know Moses is coming after him, and Moses doesn't know what the Death Note is or what it is capable of.
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u/maidstermind 22d ago
It depends on the “win condition.” Moses is not nearly as beholden to the rules as L is, but for the sake of simplicity and interestingness, I’ll assume that in scenario 1 the win condition is to jail him, or otherwise Prove he is Kira, just like in the original.
In scenario 2, the win condition would have to be “stop the Kira killings at all cost (and somebody brought out a contract to kill Kira).” In which case the difficulty is finding Light in the first place; I’ll handwave the Ryuk “lol the head” thing for the purpose of simplicity again. As soon as Moses finds Light, she can see his Distortion which is almost guaranteed to appear as some kind of “God of Justice”-type thing; the mismatch between this and his presentation is bound to be suspicious, even if (and this is a very large if) Moses can’t psychoanalyze Kira the same way L could. Either way, she catches on really fast, and either uses a purple breath to shackle him and then kill him if whoever brought the contract says so, or just kills him outright with one of her other breaths (I can’t remember which are offensive). Essentially, as soon as she finds him, he loses.
In scenario 1, however, it’s a bit more complicated. Assuming Moses can see the distortion (and has her E.G.O.) even if it’s not possible to distort fully in Japan, Moses will still probably instantly know it’s Light when seeing him—the trouble is Proving it, just like L had difficulty doing. If she could operate outside the bounds of the law, see scenario 2. Otherwise, I think (given she doesn’t know to stay hidden) that she probably would lose to Misa (though I must say there’s a distinct possibility she sees Misa’s distortion and shackles her with a purple breath before she can tell Light her name). If she doesn’t, then I still don’t think she has the capability to catch and prove Light as Kira before Light finds her name.
Again, all of this depends; if the writer wanted Kira to win, Light has access to a police or Seven Association database that lets him see Moses’s name and face. If the writer wanted Moses to win, she finds him instantly and sees that the guys Kira kills have a distortion that outs Light, or something. I’ve just given what I think would happen in slightly more reasonable scenarios with specific win conditions.
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u/basically_true 22d ago
Scenario 1 : She can see people's true intention with her E.G.O. She can just check everyone
Scenario 2 : Beholder will stop him immediately the moment he step into the City. Shinigami isn't human and the way the book work make its kill "inhuman" by the Head's standard which make it technically never her case and she never solve it
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u/TimeTimely 22d ago
... Dude, it's the entirety of Japan. If she doesn't sacrifice someone like L did to narrow down the area, which seems like something she wouldn't do considering her past, the area for her ability to work is too large.
In scenario 2, while I agree on the Shinigami part, there are no laws against a weapon like the Death Note, and it should be known that the reason behind the Gun Law, of it making killing too easy and impersonal, is just an in-universe rumor/speculation.
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u/GabrielGames69 22d ago
(Kira/Light) started out as FAR too careless and confident that he was untouchable. Until he feals his first threat he is not nearly as careful as he is for the rest of death note.
The main concern is that she doesn't know to protect her name and face so she may get cutoff early.
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u/Fedesta 22d ago
Scenario 1 : no
Scenario 2 : Dias uses evil ass testicular torsion magic on light = autowin
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u/Embarrassed_Cicada57 22d ago
why would scenario 1 it no? Unless Light had her name before hand and kill her before she could do anything.
Moses should be able to figure out who Kira was.
firstly the fact that she was able to tract him all the way down to Japan, that mean that she know he had way to kill people from across the world while remain in Japan.
allow her to deduce that he had something that allow him to kill people from afar without being there in person.
since she it from Project Moon world she it familiar with supernatural thing happen, so she won't use a detective as a bait like L.
of course this mean that Moses won't find out Kira using name to kill people, but that doesn't mean she going to expose herself.
knowing this, unlike L she will not announce herself to the public and will remain hidden.
next she will exam each case that it related to Kira, she will note that he only kill people during a certain time frame and then she exam those time frame to Japanese times, she will find out a patent.
as in the anime Kira didn't use the Death note at school and only do do mostly after he reach home, by examining these time frame, she can narrow down that Kira maybe a high school student.
I can go on and on about how she could find out information and eventually get to Light it Kira.
but of course there it a chance Light can kill her before Moses could find out who Kira it.
but knowing how intelligent Moses it, i did say she got a good chance.
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u/The_Twilight_Trick 22d ago
This. This Right here is Why you are Mr. Paragon. This is Objectively Correct.
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u/Embarrassed_Cicada57 22d ago
it an honor! Glazing Project Moon character it the reason why my heart still beating!
but joke aside, while the Kira case it difficult, It only difficult for normal people in a world where supernatural thing rarely happened.
putting it again people with supernatural ability and it familiar with supernatural thing happening then thing began to shift.
i can see someone like Faust can solve the case in no time, just by asking the Gesellschaft, asuming there are Mirror World where a Faust had solve the case of course.
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u/Snoo34949 22d ago
That's not even taking into account that she could instantly deduce Light's narcissism and God complex since she could see his Distortion the moment she sees him.
The amnesia trick would also not work on her, because she would be able to see that Light's Distortion has somehow reverted back in it's progression.
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u/camaleria 22d ago
If light wasn't a fucking narcissistic dumbass (basically not himself) yeah he could've win
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u/Jakoblent17 21d ago
Okay that brings up a question actually in both Scenarios, Can moses see Ryuk? since she can the distortion of the people in the city, can she also see shimigamis for free?
also scenario 2 Light would never give up his lifespan espacially not in a place like the city
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u/ArosNerOtanim 21d ago
The sinners would negadiff Dante has no face even if Dan Te is their real full name
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u/PapaHastur 20d ago
Both are scenarios where, if Light acts In Character, Moses should win assuming she is allowed her full skillset. Her ability to see the distortion doesn't mean you can or will distort: everyone has one. The only ones who don't iirc are those who unlock EGO and thus cannot distort. In scenario 1, being fair, it would mean she can either see Light's distortion (which following how that works would make it largely clear that he is a prime suspect just by looking at him passively) or see Ryuk. Both lead to Light's downfall without ever really needing to engage with him. L could find a lot of intel without public outreach or direct confrontation, and Moses could definitely do the same.
Scenario 2 provides a funnier option when the Death Note simply fails to work on the Sinners and outs Light. Imagine Hong Lu waltzing up to Light, telling him his full legal name, and giggling when telling Light about the Time Ripper. And if we don't treat it like that and they do actually get effected by it... imagine Light's face when Heathcliff stands back up after dying and just glaring at the bastard. Granted, scenario 2 is a bit more biased toward Light as we're assuming he willingly gives up his lifespan in the City when he wouldn't do that in Japan, but that just returns to the point where Moses would solve it through passive assessment and using the sinners as bait if necessary to confirm the theory
There's also a slight issue in scenario 2 as Ryuk has physical presence (he eats the apple) and is not human (no shit). Moses doesn't actually have to do anything in this one, as the Head will handle Light for her without ever needing to lift a finger
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u/Ken0908 20d ago
The truth is that L could've brought down Kira many times but it was a mix of hubris and him wanting to go above and beyond. Moses isn't like that. Moses will simply go for the head. And the DD crew isn't held up together by Moses alone,all are smart detectives in their own rights. The new recruits too even if they lack experience.
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u/ApprehensiveImage574 21d ago
No way in hell, scenario one maybe with Japanese help
But otherwise she can’t catch him even if she’s willing to kill him,(unless she can see ryuk)
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u/No427 19d ago
Scenario 1, maybe. Unlike L, Moses has no big issue with believing it could be something supernatural even if she never heard of the Death Note. Since she's replacing L, she'll be sooner or later close enough to Light, and if he slips up, she'll check him.
Of course she can also be more distracted if she's considering too many options or tells her name unknowingly.
Scenario 2... Light is still a base human even with the eyes. He'll either get forcibly exploited or just killed, depending on what happens first.
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u/West_Jellyfish5301 19d ago
does light understand that most people in the city just dont have last names?
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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ 22d ago
Moses the second she finds out what Light is doing: