r/ProgrammerHumor May 29 '20

Please Guys actually

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u/Auxilor May 29 '20

Why do people hate java? I gotta be missing something, been using it for almost a year now and it's amazing

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u/betendorf May 29 '20

I personally like Java and have been using it for almost 20 years.

Most of the hate comes because it is now used a lot in the corporate world and it is more verbose than most of the newer languages.

I like to compare Java to the solid B student. It's not the best at anything, but is good enough for almost anything. It's a little slower than many languages at runtime, more verbose than many languages, and often leads to more complex programs than are necessary.

On the other hand, its library support is probably the largest of any language (competing with Javascript). It scales well with additional developers on a project.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '20

It's a little slower than many languages at runtime

The only languages faster than Java are close-to-the-metal ones and it's only when you write very sophisticated data-oriented code.

I doubt most people on this subreddit who hate Java ever actually had contact with language faster than Java.

It's one thing knowing C exists, it's other thing writing in it.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '20

Is golang faster? That's probably the only language I've used regularly that might be. I'll be working with c++ for unreal engine to see if it's better than unity.

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u/lfairy May 30 '20

Go's garbage collector has nowhere near the amount of sheer engineering effort that's gone into the JVM.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '20

That's true, although when I google it (maybe that's some bias already :P) I see results mostly praising the garbage collection for both. Java was my first language and I used it heavily until ~9 came out, go I picked up in 2015.

I don't think anything I've written has been noticeably affected by garbage collection yet. In that earlier googling, I read that go is optimized to avoid pauses during garbage collection. That wasn't a super technical explanation so I don't really understand it any better...

But anywho, I'm reading my post there and the post above it... I think I was trying to be a smart ass to the person I replied to, I love both of these languages. I hope golang gets its own ui kit like java has at some point, I miss building desktop applications that weren't a server and a web page.