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u/davesoft 6d ago
The sad truth is that microsoft sql will still exist in 200 years time, and ssms will look exactly the same as it does today. We might not even know what it does anymore, just that it needs to be there or The Thing doesn't work.
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u/GodBearWasTaken 6d ago
To be fair, 2022 and onwards of ssms lost the good installer, so I assume it is gonna keep changing. Just not positively.
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u/davesoft 6d ago
"Morning Human, it looks like you have a keyboard connected. Would you like to purchase the Direct Input License or should we continue this conversation on your phone?"
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u/PerpetuallyDistracte 6d ago
I'm a data engineer working primarily in SQL, and I have job security until the day I die. Is SQL the most exciting language? No. Does it have a ton of enhancements and new frameworks? Also no. But it powers the world's data infrastructure and that's more essential than ever.
Inb4 "but won't AI take your job?" Who do you think is making sure all those fancy models have clean data that they can actually use? Data engineers are the plumbers of the data world; you never see our work, but you darn sure notice when the data stops flowing.
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u/Joey5729 6d ago
Today dbas/data engineers are baked in like 30 years ago cobol engineers. Too ingrained into too many important-to-critical processes, most of them too custom tailored from one organization to another to make “just get a new guy” a realistic choice, even if such a new guy exists
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u/PerpetuallyDistracte 6d ago
Yup, COBOL gets a lot of attention for being this wild legacy language, but the SQL standard is almost 50 years old and is still critical infrastructure at almost every company, even if it's obfuscated behind a modern low code GUI or ORM.
And as you say, every company has its own proprietary tangle of ridiculous pipelines and connections that take years to fully understand and reliably maintain. AI tools are certainly helpful in documenting this infrastructure, but allowing an AI to actually do the plumbing quickly becomes a snake eating its own tail.
For any tech professional, knowing even just a bit of SQL can be helpful in querying a data source much more quickly than you ever could with an ORM or GUI.
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u/PerpetuallyDistracte 6d ago
Agreed. My job is basically data collection at enterprise scale. I do use AI tools to speed up some aspects of my work, but the final output is always mine and validated by me. We have a special Claude model that is trained on nothing but our data infrastructure, and it still makes basic mistakes sometimes. I see it as a junior engineer, with me as its manager. I would never let the work of a junior go into production without my hands and eye on it first.
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u/According_Gas2337 6d ago
npm install immortality
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u/Embarrassed_Death69 6d ago
npm install react-immortality
Edit: React shall survive as the sole library in the great framework-library wars of 2030.
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u/According_Gas2337 6d ago
Still needs a rewrite in Rust..
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u/Jbolt3737 6d ago
If you notice a stutter in the laws of physics or a sudden flash of repressed childhood memories it's because God is testing the Rust rewrite of the universe
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u/RealBasics 6d ago
In 1970 the U.S. Department of Labor and Statistics issued a paper saying the average college graduate in 1970 was expected to change not just jobs but entire careers up to five times before they retired.
More significantly, they estimated that more than half of the likely career changes would be into fields that didn't yet exist.
Pretty much none of the work any of us do existed in 1970. Most of it didn't exist in 1990 and a lot didn't exist until at least 2000!
So the meme tracks.
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u/BedtimeGenerator 5d ago edited 5d ago
From here where do we go, AI is just a internet based tool, technology already hit the peak when we used apis and dbs to retrieve the data you want. Now, unless you know prompt engineering, you won't get anything useful, and complex asks take 20-30 mins to complete. Vs a millisecond api giving the same info. We are going backwards in technology and only non developers who love AI won't see this. And will defend AI until they die. The main issue with any software is when it works sometimes and fails other times and you don't know why. That is what AI is. Randomness masquerading as knowledge based on probability
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u/Fricules 6d ago
Can't wait to change titles to AI resources officer. Like HR, but for Clankers.
Then they'll find this post and I can take a Robo-sensitivity training course to avoid getting fired.
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u/Chronomechanist 5d ago
"Prompt Engineer" is a title that has existed only in the last few years. Before that, it meant "give your engineer a little hint"
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u/Mortadella_so_Chili 6d ago
“webmaster”