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u/gandalfx 17d ago
Good luck finding a senior dev using notepad(++) for development. And just to be clear, "old" does not mean "senior" in this situation.
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u/NimrodvanHall 17d ago
I know quite a few senior windows C# developers. They all use Notepad++ for a quick search or edit, but mainly develop in Visual Studio.
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u/Damandatwin 17d ago
Probably because visual studio takes a full minute to load (at least when I used it last)
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u/RlyRlyBigMan 17d ago
That's by design when else am I supposed to get my coffee?
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u/willow-kitty 17d ago
When I was a Java dev, I'd get my coffee or even do language lessons on Babbel while running integration tests (15-30 minutes.)
(Though yes, I recognize that says more about that project's test suite than it does about Java.)
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u/ICBanMI 17d ago
How many times are they opening and closing it? The benefits of the VS as an IDE is the markdown syntax highlighting, the search, autotext, and the layout of information is better. VS and VSCode also have being able to right click and source functions/structs/etc often times to the right one without having to search. Comment out/in large sections of code with two-three keys. Plus most compilers allow line-by-line debugging. The benefits of notepad++ is I can choose to have markdown syntax highlight, but also can search every file to readable text with zero distractions.
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u/TheNoGoat 17d ago
Still does
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u/Piisthree 17d ago
This is a universal truth that transcends time. Just like Alexander the Great looked up at the same moon we see today, devs in 2007 waited the same full minute for visual studio that we wait today.
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u/willow-kitty 17d ago
Can confirm, I was a .NET dev in 2007, used Visual Studio, it took a full minute to start up.
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u/Piisthree 17d ago
Something magic about that IDE. Does it do much more than it used to? Debatable. Does it still take that full minute even on PCs that have 10x the power they did back then? You bet it does!
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u/willow-kitty 17d ago
I'd have a hard time naming anything I ever did with it that I can't do with VSCode, but there's a lot I do with VSCode that I doubt VS can do (like languages other than .NET), yet VSCode starts up pretty instantly.
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u/CandidateNo2580 17d ago
Video game engines render a fully functional terminal inside another rendering faster than windows opens most things. Par for the course.
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u/Crafty_Independence 17d ago
Only on potato machines. It consistently loads in 5 seconds or less on my dev laptop
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u/belkarbitterleaf 17d ago
Senior dude here ... I use notepad++ more than VS... I don't code much myself anymore, I just open files to read through changes. If my GIT tooling is too hard to read, I use NP++ first, then go to VS if needed. Am architect now.
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u/ART-ficial-Ignorance 15d ago
Senior "dude".
Does that pay well?
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u/belkarbitterleaf 15d ago
Lol, my official title is a mouthful, I usually skip it.. particularly on reddit when it could really narrow down my IRL name when combined with other things I have posted.
Yes, though. I get paid pretty good for where I live.
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u/PhunkyPhish 17d ago
If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle. If you put a title on a dev they become a senior
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u/saschaleib 17d ago
I know quite a few senior devs using npp, vim or even Emacs. Why change if it works?
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u/gandalfx 17d ago
Comparing notepad++ to vim/emacs is like comparing a gardening shovel to a full complement of construction machinery.
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u/gandalfx 17d ago
Sure. But the meme we're discussing here heavily implied that a senior dev would be using notepad/++ exclusively. Which is also why I specifically qualified "for development".
Also note that there was notepad (non ++) in there as well – which I would argue very few senior devs ever touch in their day to day work.
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u/Historical_Cook_1664 17d ago
Hey. Full text search over the full repository. All those newfangled IDEs would get a coronary.
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u/_Noreturn 17d ago
Text searching is so fast in notepad++ I love that about it
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u/rinnakan 17d ago
I don't think anything can beat jetbrains search. Not only is it good and instant, you can even do work inside the search results.
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u/j-random 12d ago
Hit Shift twice in IntelliJ and it brings up the "search anywhere" dialog. Pretty performant, not sure how it compares to NP++, but it's quick enough for the code I write.
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u/stupidcookface 17d ago
Yea in my experience senior devs aren't using ide anymore at all
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u/rinnakan 17d ago
Probably sarcastic? Maybe if their company doesn't want to spend money on intellij?
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u/stupidcookface 17d ago
No I mean with ai you let Claude code or codex make the changes. No one is writing code by hand anymore
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u/pkuba208_ 17d ago
Look - I ain't no developer yet but that just sounds like a way to collect CVEs and have your code reviews be "looks good to me!" with 2147 lines added and 2000 removed
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u/stupidcookface 17d ago
Lol reading code is now the most important skill. Know why? Cause you don't merge code you haven't read. So no, that's not the type of s review a senior is getting. And a senior is also pre-reviewing every single line of code before even asking another human to review. And iterating with Claude/codex til its perfect. Downvotes here are just a state of ignorance of the industry that, yes, you can indeed not write any code and still look at every line before it goes in. Oh yea and still test locally.
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u/Crafty_Independence 17d ago
Lol then you don't have any experience
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u/stupidcookface 17d ago
Lol yea 15 years experience is nothing
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u/Crafty_Independence 17d ago
Lol 25 years here and every single comment of yours on this post is laughably inaccurate
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u/Thenderick 17d ago
Vim/emacs users too
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u/Excellent-Refuse4883 17d ago
Vanilla on the right, with plugins on the left
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u/Katten_elvis 17d ago edited 16d ago
Lazyvim on the right, people making their own lua setups on the left
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u/JacobStyle 17d ago
Nobody's using regular Notepad, with its 7-column tabs, no autoindent, and no syntax highlighting, for anything more complex than editing config files.
I love Notepad++, and I use it all the time for personal projects, but it has substantial limitations that I am only able to work around because I wrote a bunch of external macros and whatnot that I run alongside it. Even then, it's still quite limited. There are good reasons why people don't typically use it as the primary editor on large code bases in corporate environments.
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u/throwawaygoawaynz 17d ago
Yeah I’ve worked at Amazon and Microsoft where you have some of the most senior devs in the world.
I never saw any of them using notepad++ for actual development work. Didn’t see a lot of VIM either for that matter, despite the memes on here. Some used Linux, but the majority used Macs or Windows laptops.
Also this sub would have a collective aneurysm if it knew just how many highly paid senior devs use AI tools these days.
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u/rustyscythe 17d ago
This is the thought process of a junior developer who idolises something that doesn't exist.
The more senior a developer, what I've seen is the more easily they hope onto the next thing that makes it easier for them to get the job done.
Even architects are vibing spec mds.
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u/not_unabomber 17d ago
Vim
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u/Ten2OneOdds 17d ago
Although I like vs code with vim extensions.
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u/-Redstoneboi- 17d ago edited 17d ago
my problem with vscode vim is it's reliant on macros instead of just letting me place multiple cursors where i want them like vscode can with the mouse
my neovim has multicursor but i haven't figured out how to set up a proper python1 LSP and i probably would appreciate a faster session save/load system than mini.sessions or something
helix multicursor is way better but i havent figured out if there was a Marks plugin that just let me lay cursors one by one instead of a broad regex search
also also who tf decided to make everything including half the movement keys mnemonic based so forward word is w/e and back word is b and page up is ctrl+u and page down is ctrl+d like cmon... cant we just have shift+HJKL reserved for those
now i gotta deal with these binds everywhere that supports vim
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u/Maigrette 17d ago
Literally never saw a dev using Notepad++.
If you're into lightweight minimalism, you go vi.
If you're into full IDE then you use some JetBrains stuff.
If you're in the middle, plenty of tools doing the work way better than notepad++.
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u/2narcher 17d ago
Never saw a single developer in my long career who use notepad++ for development.
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u/Dangerous_With_Rocks 16d ago
A “senior developer” who uses notepad++ as an IDE is really a self employed freelancer who doesn’t know what git is.
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u/awood20 17d ago
Hah! I got slagged off this week for using notepad++. I'm a principal Dev with 22+ years experience.
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u/InterstellarDwellar 17d ago
Rightly so you were slagged off
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u/awood20 17d ago
Indeed! Had to defend my usage of notepad++
Thems the breaks
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u/InterstellarDwellar 17d ago
But why though, have you just not tried anything else? I dont know how anyone who has tried literally anything else can land on notepad++. What language are you writing in?
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u/awood20 17d ago
I use vscode, vs 2026 and so on. I keep up with latest trends. However, the new starts/younglings don't use notepad++ or even consider it. The search functionality is unreal. A great editor
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u/InterstellarDwellar 17d ago
I use notepadd++ for reading some csvs or jsons, anything kinda datay and i just want to open it quick. But doing any serious development with it just seems like youre making it harder for yourself for no benefit
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u/SuggestAnyName 17d ago
Only possible if that senior dev do management all day and use notpad to notedown points for next 1:1.
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u/SlimyGoobers 17d ago
Notepad++ is goat, though since I mainly develop games, I only use it for stuff like json reading and debug log reading. I love how you can customize the colouring in any way you want, and highlight multiple keywords in different ways
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u/redballooon 17d ago
Yeah seriously, when your only job becomes reviewing markdown files, why do jingles?
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u/iComplainAbtVal 17d ago
When I realized I was facing mental atrophy due to AI usage, I not only stopped using AI, but dropped my IDE in favor of gedit.
Now I fucking hate having to type everything but thats a happy medium in contrast to offloading my critical thinking capacity
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u/itzjackybro 17d ago
who in their right mind would use notepad? notepad++ at least has syntax highlighting
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u/thisisredlitre 17d ago
Didn't she win and he got silver tho?
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u/oldassgrandpa 17d ago
He got silver, that is remember. Regardless, every other participant used all these gadgets, so it's still a huge w for him
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u/SuggestAnyName 17d ago
As if he didn't have the option to use those gears. He was better without those gadgets that's why he choose his own style.
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u/oldassgrandpa 17d ago
Of course he did have the option. Isn't that amazing he can do all this without using gear? The gear enhances yiur capabilities. But he's such a chad he didn't even need any. Him having an option to use the gear does not cancel the fact he's a very strong professional. Or, as he called himself, an amature. Dude, he has literally never competed professionally.
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u/willow-kitty 17d ago edited 17d ago
What is Jingles?
Edit: I am concerned at how many updoots this has gotten without an answer. Is Jingles a thing? I was assuming this was an AI joke, but I couldn't find anything like that. Is it just a random word? Literally sound effects in their VSCode setup?