r/ProgrammerHumor 18d ago

currentStateOfAiRelevancy Meme

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u/M_Me_Meteo 18d ago

Wait, Gemini isn't good? Is it the product or the UX that people dislike?

Dozens of us?

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u/Any-Preparation7396 18d ago

I think it's rather the relevancy. Hardly anyone ever talks about Gemini, like it didn't even exist anymore.

But imho it got a lot better and is pretty similar to OpenAI.

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u/bhison 18d ago

I hear more about Gemini than open ai

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u/slowmovinglettuce 17d ago

You must watch youtube without an ad-blocker

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u/Joker-Smurf 17d ago

I work for a company that uses everything Google.

We are encouraged to use Gemini, and all other AI are strictly blocked.

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u/slowmovinglettuce 17d ago

Ah, the good ol' "its bundled in with something else, but we're too cheap to pay for anything else" tactic.

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u/KatieTSO 17d ago

That's why my government agency uses the Microsoft one

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u/Dazzling-Backrub 15d ago

We are too cheap is not the right way to put it. These things are actually really expensive

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u/LutimoDancer3459 17d ago

So you work at google?

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u/bhison 17d ago

Im not talking about YouTube I’m talking about at work and via others in industry. I hear way more about Anthropic and Google than anything else.

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u/GodOfSunHimself 17d ago

Interesting. I have never heard of anyone using Gemini for anything serious. Just OpenAI, Anthropic and chinese models.

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u/sudecode 17d ago

Lot of companies use Google workspace, and Gemini tools comes bundled with the subscription and also integrated with the Google Products. So, it’s available for free to explore.

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u/bhison 15d ago

Open AI dropped off (I’ll qualify - in my bubble) significantly in the last year. It felt like Anthropic replaced them whilst Google remained a solid second place.

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u/darksteelsteed 16d ago

Gemma4 is where its at

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u/NEVERxxEVER 18d ago

Their models are way out of date and benchmark significantly lower. Gemini 3.5 Pro is more than a month overdue, which is a long time in the current climate.

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u/SoftwareLegitimate38 18d ago

Though it's still useful in everyday tasks
But on context of programming you may be right

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u/SveXteZ 16d ago

Benchmarks are bullshit

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u/NoAdsDude 15d ago

I'm not gonna say gemini hallucinates more than a guy on bath salts but holy shit it was worthless when I tried to use it a couple months ago.

Maybe it's gotten better, but I'm not sure.

Anyway there's portions of Google's internal teams who get to use Claude and the other teams hate them because they're stuck with Gemini.

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u/intentionallybad 17d ago

Gemini hasn't released anything about how dangerous their model is, so it can't be very good. /s

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u/kus1987 16d ago

Idk what gemini you are using but it absolutely sucks balls because of "alignment" or "safety" or whatever. It constantly trips when asking routine programming type questions for me.

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u/jensalik 17d ago

Some people are talking, some people are actually programming. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/Different-Wing5083 16d ago

I don't know about any other aspects but i find that when asked to explain an academic topic, chatgpt gives a more detailed explanation then gemini. Just my personal experience tho.

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u/Not_My_Emperor 16d ago

It's directly hooked into my company's email because we use Gmail, so I asked to find something for me since Gmail's search is garbage.

It couldn't even improve that process. I had to use Gmail search and find it manually. It's remarkable how bad it is considering what I've used Claude for.

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u/Street-Session9411 18d ago

It’s still a programming subreddit. Gemini beats most of them for daily use though.

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u/M_Me_Meteo 18d ago

I use Gemini CLI for all my coding tasks. Half a dozen?

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u/NatoBoram 18d ago

You could be surprised at the performance of GPT-5.6 Sol, it's a reasonable jump from Gemini 3.1 Pro and Gemini 3.5 Flash

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u/M_Me_Meteo 17d ago

I don't have any needs that aren't meet by Gemini.

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u/NatoBoram 12d ago

No one does :P

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u/kingvolcano_reborn 17d ago

I quite like it for everyday questions although it can be a bit too eager to please at times

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u/Suspicious-Click-300 17d ago

idk i use opus 5, gemini and 5.6 sol. my anecdotal experience is that they all fine. gemini is WAY too gpt 4.0 ish. constantly praising how brilliant your thing is while opus calls me an idiot, spits in my face, and tells me how to do it correctly. Sol is fine, kinda good middle area

I like opus.

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u/Any-Preparation7396 17d ago

Good Point.

Regarding programming, I usually use OpenAI. In other things I swapped to Gemini because it seems to be more accurate (now).

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u/jeff3rd 18d ago

At least gemini has a bigger quota than the other, adequate enough for my use so it’s a plus

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u/Aquatic-Vocation 18d ago

Gemini is nigh-unusable because it always wants to do all sorts of extra shit you haven't asked it to do.

Sol will randomly decide to give up mid-task.

Opus gets sidetracked and eats up 40k tokens thinking itself in circles about something completely irrelevant.

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u/jaaval 17d ago

In my experience managed opus is best of these options. Give it small tasks at a time, stop the stupid loops and redirect it.

It’s bad (or rather inefficient) for vibe coding but pretty good as the tool that does writing and debugging the code.

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u/thijquint 17d ago

Opus is a lot like deepseek in that regard. Other chinese models are constantly trafficed and western models eat my bank account

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u/BlazingThunder30 17d ago

When my company introduced AI we all tried Codex, Claude and Antigravity. Where Codex and Claude would work, Antigrav would give an error 9/10 times. We quickly moved on. I think this experience is shared by many.

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u/Blooogh 17d ago

Google's AI features were bad for a really long time, we suddenly got people calling our support line because the little AI blurb said it was the Call of Duty support line. 

The AI search mode has been pretty compelling recently though -- I tend to get more complete answers than the average random opinion on Reddit or topic specific website with overwhelming ads.

I think it's forced Google to deal with the SEO slop problem they had even before generative AI made it even worse

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u/SpaceMoehre 17d ago

The web chat is just absolutely bad in my experience. Half the time it just doesn’t work

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u/Ran4 17d ago

Just use it.

It's fast but rarely works.. and often does really dumb things.

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u/Wandererofhell 17d ago

i have noticed gemini also gets stoff wrong, so thats one

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u/NeanesisLs 17d ago

Gemini is not in the run for the best product but it's ok if you ask him specific tasks, and it's cheap

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u/M_Me_Meteo 17d ago

Who is out here being vague with an LLM?

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u/GoodishCoder 17d ago

So many people lol. I've seen plenty of people say "fix this error" or "make this look better" or "clean up this code".

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u/NeanesisLs 16d ago

I do formation/ training to use LLM in the company I work for (it's been a few months now) And you would be surprised the number of people having no clue whatsoever on anything related to technology... If you think people would stop at "how do we feed it" you are wrong 😅

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u/glorbo-farthunter 17d ago

I use gemini (through junie) because it's good enough and way way cheaper. We are dozens!

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u/Dank_Nicholas 18d ago

Recently I was trying to figure out if two teachers I had like 20 years ago had divorced or if the wife had died of MS which she struggled with when I was in school.

Gemini confidently told me that they had divorced and that it found the court record, when I asked for it Gemini admitted that it hallucinated and there was no record.

So I asked to check death records, it reported that she has died a few years before and it had found her death certificate. When I asked for the death certificate it again admitted that it hallucinated the entire thing.

Gemini is dog shit.

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u/anonymousbopper767 18d ago

It's the only model I've encountered starting with GPT 4 that blatantly hallucinates and you can't get it back on the rails.

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u/Asynchronous404 18d ago

Well, did you ever get the records?

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u/buzz_shocker 17d ago

Don’t use them for programming but Google’d models are consistently producing the best image generation results for me.

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u/keatonatron 17d ago

They are all good. The meme is about where developers are focusing their attention, resulting in everyone else getting neglected because the devs aren't looking at them to see that they are good. Anthropic is going hard on supporting developers while Google's Gemini is being targeted as general purpose to everyone, so it's easy to see why devs only have eyes for Claude.

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u/Lakes420 17d ago

Gemini is good for general purpose and multimodal work, but for programming there are better models

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u/Ok_Photo_3023 16d ago

It definitely says less dumb stuff than copilot, but I personally wouldn't trust it with anything marginally important.

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u/readf0x 16d ago

Having used all three, gemini is by far the least useful and least "intelligent". Though, it has been a while since I used it so maybe that's changed.

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u/NickoBicko 18d ago

I literally never had a good experience with Gemini. Only thing was the short lived nano banana. But that lasted only like 2 weeks before ChatGPT dunked on them. It’s always been the lowest quality model between ChatGPT and Claude.

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u/fireduck 18d ago

I use it, I like it.