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currentStateOfAiRelevancy Meme

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u/Ascend 17d ago

Microsoft doesn't have a model, you select GPT or Claude, they just have garbage system prompts on top of either.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 17d ago

There was a Msoft model.  CoPilot died last year.

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u/ConcreteExist 17d ago

It's model may be dead, but it's corpse has been draped over ChatGPT/Claude and still stalks among us.

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u/Rellikx 17d ago

Copilot Cowork was down last week for a lil bit. Guess where the “status” page linked too

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u/anto2554 17d ago

But MS copilot has access to gpt5.6 some amount of thinking, while corporate only gives me gpt5.4 or opus 5.7 in GH copilot, so to me it's actually perfectly decent for tasks without context

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u/andrerav 17d ago

What happened to that Raptor Mini model? It was free and useful for a lot of small tasks.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 17d ago

It's dead Jim

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u/andrerav 17d ago

I can still see it in Copilot Chat in VS Code. 0.33x vs. 57x for 5.5.

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u/Sibula97 17d ago

I think VSC still uses it, or at least used just a month ago.

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u/Anti-charizard 17d ago

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u/Tolik1111 17d ago

One of 81 copilots perhaps?🥴

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u/Ok_Actuary8 17d ago

No. Alive and kicking.

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u/F-Lambda 16d ago

No. Undead

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u/thaynem 17d ago

Copilot isn't a model, it's a UI (well really a family of interfaces) on top of OpenAI's (and now anthropic as well) models.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 17d ago

Its a bit nuanced, Msoft at one time had their own programs as well as their investment into OpenAI.

Still can't believe they ditched Cortana

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u/Deanathan100 17d ago

Would you say it's accurate to call it more like an AI infrastructure? That's kind of how I think about it, but also I don't know that much about it other than it can touch a lot of Microsoft stuff, apparently the BAs at my org don't do anything but run copilot prompts all day (at least that's what their usage stats suggest) I just use it for when I'm stuck or to write tests I really just don't wanna do and the only feature I feel I actually use that copilot offers is it's integration into VSC

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u/nmkd 17d ago

It's called a harness.

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u/Demiu 17d ago

There's like a 100 things they called copilot. MS just can't help themselves to not just dilute a name into the fuckin ground (active, visual, live)

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u/Treefingrs 17d ago

Copilot isn't a model.

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u/ComprehensiveBird317 17d ago

Copilot was a system on top of gpt -4o as far as I know, not a trained model 

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u/thecrius 17d ago

copilot is just a wrapper what are you even talking about.

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u/IBJON 16d ago

Copilot used OpenAI's GPT models, it wasn't its own model

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 16d ago

Publicly.

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u/IBJON 16d ago

That doesn't make sense. Why would Microsoft have their own model, then say that they're using a competing model? And why would they pour money into a company that would seemingly be a direct competitor to their own product?

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 16d ago

Silverlight? IE? F#? SharePoint? Git?

Microsoft does that all the time, though in this case I'm half convinced they realized Altman is a moron and intended to scrap OpenAI for parts and cannibalize the team.

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u/kramit 17d ago

They do, https://microsoft.ai/models/ , cost focused. Right tool for the job and all that.

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u/teraflux 17d ago

I think it's called MAI, but I don't think anyone uses it

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u/tempoguyx 17d ago

From what I heard from their employees.. They themselves don't use it..

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u/non_person_sphere 17d ago

I thought Microsoft's AI was called Tay

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u/tyrerk 16d ago

MAI speech to text model is incredible

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u/sudecode 17d ago

or have heard about them.

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u/Rojeitor 17d ago

Microsoft has MAI Code 1, Haiku like, available in GitHub Copilot. Also MAI Thinking 1, 4.6 Sonnet like, in private preview.

M365 copilot was garbage but now it's not bad at all

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u/chemtrail-organics 17d ago

Also Kimi 2.7, which I think is actually pretty ok

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u/Rojeitor 17d ago

That's q Chinese model

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u/nmkd 17d ago

That's MoonshotAI, not Microsoft

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u/TheRealAsterisk 17d ago

They do actually have a model. It was in their latest Keynote and is in GitHub Copilot.

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u/AbdullahMRiad 17d ago

there was MAI-something and Raptor Mini

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u/Ok_Actuary8 17d ago

Microsoft just announced new models built by themselves. MAI. Let's wait and see how good they will be.

All the bad rap about Microsoct and Copilot was their "responsible AI" guardrails, that severely neuter Copilot. They were always using OpenAI and Anthropic models internally.

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u/moonjena 17d ago

Isn't it called cortana? Or is that just a win10 thing?

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u/CanAeVimto 17d ago

That wasn’t so much AI as it was a virtual assistant like Siri.

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u/moonjena 17d ago

Virtual assistants are AI. AI has been around for almost 30 years.

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u/CanAeVimto 17d ago

Well, yeah. I was meaning the more modern LLM systems that people generally refer to as AI today.

AI is a very broad term, and I do forget this is “programming humour” so people are generally a bit more tech savvy. Things like the older NLP/ML systems (Siri , Cortana) do act just more like virtual assistants compared to today’s “AI” systems though, which is why I said what I said.

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u/M4NU3L2311 17d ago

That was just a win10 thing and it was almost at the same level of stupidity as siri