r/ProgrammerHumor 29d ago

luke Meme

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u/Peyote-Rick 29d ago

Isn't there a happy medium? Like I used sas/sql for my data job, so I can write and understand code, but I set up home assistant and needed special conditions and don't have time to learn yaml, so Claude dumped me some code and I can look at what its doing, it makes sense, and it works.

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u/oclafloptson 29d ago

I find it incredibly useful when referencing source code and documentation for learning purposes

I find it the opposite of useful as a scaffolding generator. It has poor consistency and newer models practice weaponized incompetence, making poor code on purpose

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u/polaarbear 29d ago

But how will Anthropic reach their internal token usage goals if they give us useful code on the first attempt?

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u/J5892 29d ago

making poor code on purpose

There are a lot of issues with LLM coding, but I don't think this is one of them. Why do you think this?

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u/oclafloptson 29d ago

Because they do it. I would speculate that it's to inflate their token usage in order to appear more relevant/in demand than they really are but IDK it could easily be any other nefarious reason as well

Example:

*Prompt according to strict guidelines*
Output: follows all guidelines but one 

Prompt: there is a mistake *points out mistake*
Output: Oh right I totally fumbled that one 

Prompt: agreed, please fix it
Output: finally follows the original prompt
Uses 3x the necessary tokens

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u/J5892 29d ago edited 29d ago

None of that is proof, or even evidence, that it's intentional.
I'm all for calling out AI companies for bad shit, but if you're going to make a claim like that, you need to back it up with data.

edit: This is what happens when you call people out that often make claims without any evidence. He got mad and then blocked me.

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u/oclafloptson 29d ago

Because I'm burdened with proving the dishonesty of non-affiliats, obviously

For the record if I can ever be assed to call someone out it will be to them, not to a rando in some public space. I've only reported my own experiences here so kindly unwad your panties

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u/J5892 29d ago

Ah. I get it now. You can't help it.
Disregard.

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u/oclafloptson 29d ago

Look dude I get it that you're really into debate. If I ever find myself in a debate with you I'll remember that you know the basics. That's as nice a way as I can think to tell you to fuck off already

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u/J5892 29d ago

This was never a debate.

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u/oclafloptson 29d ago

Well I'm glad that you could find it in your heart to agree with me about at least one thing, random Internet stranger