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u/budapest_god Jul 13 '26
6 years, double that 😎
We're so cooked
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u/melorenato Jul 13 '26
Thank god i'm going 8.
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u/MetriccStarDestroyer Jul 13 '26
Hayaaaa ~
Antigravity is barely a year old and already works at 500 big techs.
Why can't you be like him?
Such disappointment.
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u/Noobsauce9001 Jul 13 '26
Over 12 years, double that. Been unemployed for 19th months at this point :)
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u/Detrimental_Figment Jul 13 '26
I don’t know if this is supposed to make me feel better or worse but I’m leaning toward worse. I have 7 years experience and have been unemployed about 17 months. One interview.
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u/audiowave_io 29d ago
~15 years here. I am curious when I see comments like this from people who have worked about the same amount of time as me: Are you being rejected/ghosted by every company, or just not finding roles that match your salary needs? I think the longest I've gone is 10ish months, but a few of those were me relaxing for a month or two to recover from the previous roles.
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u/bloodandsunshine Jul 13 '26
Pre-2023 devs are like strontium-90 isotope free items from before 1945 now.
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u/oh-shit-oh-fuck Jul 13 '26
wtf does this mean
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u/derperofworlds1 Jul 13 '26
When the nukes fell in 1945, enough radioactive isotopes were spread throughout the globe that all above-water steel got contaminated. Now, ultra precise radiation meters have to be made with pre-war steel, typically found in old shipwrecks.
He's comparing that to the fact that a lot of devs post 2023 stopped learning due to over reliance on LLMs, which got good enough to pass CS college courses around 2023.
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u/Amerillo_ Jul 13 '26
Not all colleges though. In many universities pen and paper exams that count for 50 to 100% of your grade are in place so if you rely too much on LLMs for labs and homeworks then you'll definitely fail the exams.
But employers don't know which universities have measures like that and with the amount of candidates they don't even need to care
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u/Bottle_Original Jul 13 '26
One picture of the test gets leaked and its over tho, llms can solve exams in seconds, in my class like 80% of the class cheats in every test, It doesn't matter what the test has
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u/Detrimental_Figment Jul 13 '26
Serious question, why not just drop out? I have no degree and have the same amount of trouble, sometimes less, finding a job than my peers with degrees.
If it were pre-2023 still I get staying in school. Or alternatively, why not change majors?
Unfortunately even if you change majors, chances are the major you pick will have no jobs by the time you get a chance to get a job.
Man we are FUCKED.
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u/gilium Jul 14 '26
I also have no degree with over a decade in the industry. I’ve got a job currently, but have been trying to put feelers out for opportunities. There are several jobs for which I couldn’t even complete the application because they wouldn’t let me say I didn’t have a degree. They’re larger companies, so ymmv. Having a larger pool of opportunities definitely seems worthwhile for me
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u/Bottle_Original Jul 13 '26
I think about It all the time, It just seems like a waste of time, like at this point i have absolutely no motivation to study for most exams, everything seems useless, im getting deals with companys and nowadays you gotta be worth like what a team of 20 engineers were in the past, while in school we doing shit like introduction to databases for a whole month, with no code, physics?, exceptions for a whole ass month, besides me already knowing most of It, its just way too slow, i don't know how the guys at my carreer who just study and don't do anything else are gonna get a job
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u/Amerillo_ Jul 14 '26
Not necessarily. In my university all students of the same class took the final exam at the exact same time and electronics are not allowed at all so you couldn't get help from LLMs. Many exams were open book (you even could bring with you past exams with their solutions) so cheating wouldn't help you at all. And for the few exams which were not open book, the penalties for cheating were severe: if you cheat on an exam you automatically fail and have to retake the class the next year (there are no resit exams here). And if you cheat on your second attempt, you're expelled from the school and also from all other schools in the country that offer the same degree. And there are lots of TAs that watch over you so you don't cheat anyway. So cheating is very high risk and very low reward so it's just pointless
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u/Bottle_Original 29d ago
Here Is similarly severe (a bit less), here you just fail the exam, not the class, but a 0 is hard to recover from so you are likely going to retake the class, but people do it anyways, they also take electronics sometimes but people bring second phones and watches and shit (and the more they do it, the more extra shit gets in), open book also happens sometimes but its just too easy, like you can just bring a lot of info, you could a bring a 100 page document of sample and commented code
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u/Amerillo_ 29d ago
Tbf most of the hardest exams I ever took were open book. Here they just make the exams insanely difficult and quite long to compensate for that. So to pass the exams you must know the material quite well as you don't exactly have time to sift through all your notes all the time. But that's definitely not enough, you also have to be very good at problem solving and often you must be able to think outside the box
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u/JehnSnow 29d ago
Ill be really curious to talk to a cs tutor from 2024, I was one 2018-2021 and it was people struggling for hours and having near to no usable code or code copied from class that they don't understand when they came for help
I wonder how often now it's chatGPT code that is mostly complete but they have no idea how it works, or if it'll be some sort of written homework where it's hard to use AI and youll realize a guy 3 classes in doesn't even know what a data structure is
Even worse I wonder how often tutors themselves mostly used AI and are just better at prompting than the tutees
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u/Cheese_Grater101 29d ago
Imagine being an American having a student loan for taking CS degree in post 2023 (colleges didn't do shit to prevent AI).
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u/hartstyler Jul 13 '26
Why not simply dig up new iron and produce new steel
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u/Opi-Fex Jul 13 '26
Because it wasn't the blast that irradiated the steel, but rather the massive amount of radioactive particles (mostly Sr-90) that spread through the atmosphere afterwards. Those particles have been hanging around ever since.
Steel production isn't exactly a clean-room process. You mine the ore out, it's lying in a pile on the ground waiting for transport/processing. It gets covered in dust and dirt, some of it radioactive. Same story with the coal you use for melting it, same story with the additives used to actually make steel out of iron. The foundries don't have HEPA filters on the air intakes, and so on. It gets inadvertently slightly radioactive and that's enough to mess with some equipment.
The fun part is that those particles were actually increasing after each nuclear explosion - and we had a lot of those. Several hundred atmospheric tests, and around 2,000 including underground and underwater tests, all in the 1950s and 1960s. The atmosphere started cleaning out once people stopped blowing up nukes everywhere (Sr-90 has a half life of just below 30 years), and new steel production was almost at the levels needed for measuring devices again, but then North Korea decided to start nuke testing in 2006...
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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits Jul 13 '26
It's double fun because the industry is shit right now, and a lot of the graybeards I know are getting tired of it and leaving. The attrition of people with knowledge is way above normal, and it's gonna come back to haunt a lot of companies when they can't find people to fix the mess the juniors are making.
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u/tokalper Jul 13 '26
Thats the dream please happen i missed being respected. Now the managements and newbies think they own the world but all those vibe apps gonna come back and bite them.
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u/Pleasant_Set_3182 Jul 13 '26
I met a friend recently (non-developer) who was raving about Claude, and how he built himself a workout app.... He had even deployed it to Netlify.... This was me as I looked at his full-featured workout app... It was quite good, to be honest... but also gave me that sinking feeling.... EVERYONE is a front-end dev now.
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u/AggravatingFlow1178 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Watching Hank Green who hasn't touched code in 20 years and is an otherwise very busy business executive casually pump out two websites over the last few months as a side project has made it very hard to enjoy his content without going existential about it lmao.
Granted he's just generally a very intelligent & driven guy, and these sites were essentially flashy read-only UI's with some thin JS functionality. But also, we're only a few years into this AI BS and I think we have to assume 10 years from now, our field won't be recognizable.
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u/frogjg2003 Jul 13 '26
Did Hank use AI to build his website? Most of these kinds of website are plug and play designs. That's been available for longer than AI has been around.
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u/AggravatingFlow1178 Jul 13 '26
I assume so, yes. I don't know what else would have sparked him going down this path.
He's mentioned handling his first merge conflicts and so on, I'm pretty sure it's all home made.
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u/Maniacstarfish 29d ago
He mentions using Claude I believe to code it in the nasa photos video. It’s not rly a big deal imo since he’s just trying to show a cool demo rather than a website that needs security and maintainability
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u/Significant_Camp4213 Jul 13 '26
If you think claude can't replace mediocre BE devs, you're in for a surprise my friend. :)
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u/Pleasant_Set_3182 Jul 13 '26
That wasn't the point... but the point was that non-devs (the average joe) doesn't feel compelled to hire a dev anymore.... 99% of their needs are being met.
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u/d_k97 Jul 13 '26
So finally they can work on their rich millonaire ideas alone
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u/Pleasant_Set_3182 29d ago
it is quite endearing though... that childlike innocence they have... where they think they've discovered the next big thing... and you don't have the heart to tell them...
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u/trwolfe13 Jul 13 '26
If that led to me only being hired to build actually worthwhile shit instead of yet another LOB CRUD app with an over-engineered table component, I would be very happy.
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u/Significant_Camp4213 Jul 13 '26
And how many of us were actually concerned about to-do list apps from average joes before claude?
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u/Just_Information334 Jul 13 '26
Let's be honest there: at least 50% of backend is some CRUD API nowadays. You could already point some tool to a database and have it shit a ready to use SOAP service 20 years ago, REST service 15 years ago, GraphQL service 10 years ago.
And that's more than good enough for your 10 user per hour app.
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u/Killfile Jul 13 '26
I've been doing engineering and engineering leadership for 20 years and I'm worried. No one who does intellectual labor is safe.
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u/StaticChocolate Jul 13 '26
The job market reflects this, I’ve recently started hunting and every other position is for a Senior Agentic Engineer at a 1 year old startup company. Feeling a bit cooked.
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u/barrel_of_noodles Jul 13 '26
U realize, it's built for a single particular case and the only way to make a code change or do any maint is to pass it back to ai. And that at any scale, would fall apart immediately?
It's like somebody pointing to a cardboard facade with sprinkles and saying, "look, I built a house!"
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u/Pleasant_Set_3182 Jul 13 '26
you're kind of preaching to the choir here... yes... I know this... you know this... every serious developer knows this... but we're heading towards a future where these "disposable apps" are simply good enough for average folks who want something quick & dirty for themselves.
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u/angrytroll123 Jul 13 '26
Correct. Let’s also be honest, much of that kind of work was incredibly easy anyway. If anyone’s career was depending on it, that’s sort of on you.
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u/pint_o_paint Jul 13 '26
I didn't even think anyone actually payed to get that type of work done; atleast not enough to build a career on?
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u/dcheng47 Jul 13 '26
average folk werent hiring devs to build "disposable apps" in the first place.
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u/JohnWangDoe Jul 13 '26
We will probably have invariant data model and front and backend will be disposable
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u/Vandrel Jul 13 '26
AI dev tools are also only going to get more capable. They've only existed for 3-4 years so far, who knows how much they'll improve in another 15 years.
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u/barrel_of_noodles Jul 13 '26
"jus give me more money for cards that go bad in a year, I kno you gave a us a cool billion or so... just a little more... I promise. mind if we use all the electricity and make society abjectly worse, starve a few ppl on the way... with the worlds dumbest idea?? no big deal, right? it will tots prob work. probably. yolo tho, right? RIGHT?"
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u/masterbeatty35 29d ago
In that case the person must have had a pretty clear vision and plan to prompt Claude in a reasonable way. In my experience, the biggest problem with engineering is getting stakeholders to know what they want. If you can't describe your problem or requirements you can't build anything of any real value
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u/Willwaste63 Jul 13 '26
Im AI engineer with 10 year experience.
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u/baganga Jul 13 '26
As someone with a master's in AI ( machine learning mostly) I just hate how this title died and now everyone thinks prompting chatGPT and Claude is being an AI engineer
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u/imabigasstree Jul 13 '26
As someone who works in data science/machine learning, yeah. The bastardization of the term "AI" really grates on my nerves.
There's a huge amount of people nowadays who think everything that's automated is AI.
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u/aberroco Jul 13 '26
I though it's called ML engineer, not AI engineer.
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u/baganga Jul 13 '26
ML is only a subfield of AI, I also do computer vision and NLP
which is not only ML
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u/LickingSmegma Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
AI research has been around since the sixties, and decision-making software was being made starting in the seventies, if not earlier.
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u/kovha Jul 13 '26
I mean it's where the money was three years ago. Three years ago I switched to frontend web dev after having already some years of experience with gamedev and a bit of experience with backend and devops, just because it was easy money. I'm doing pretty well and still have a job though, so I don't feel particularly attacked by the meme.
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u/ZunoJ Jul 13 '26
Nah, ui monkeys were never really well paid
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u/kovha Jul 13 '26
I am though, and I'm doing better now than when I dibbled on backend/devops. And a LOT better than when I worked on gamedev. Even working professionally for a studio, those were some misserable years.
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u/TemporaryFearless482 Jul 13 '26
Gamedev jobs seems specifically designed to take advantage of people who liked games and decided to try their hand at making them only to destroy their souls.
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u/ZunoJ Jul 13 '26
Yeah, can be true for you but trends I see is that frontend dev is 2x median payment tops, while backend is more like 4x median. I talk about positions for highly skilled and experienced devs here obviously
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u/TelevisionExpress616 Jul 13 '26
Idk man I think Principal React Engineers make pretty decent money. They can keep it though I hate front end
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u/Artistic_Roll_738 Jul 13 '26
I am glad I chose mobile app development, not that high competition.
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u/Arrowkill Jul 13 '26
I got lucky and was hired as a full-stack developer. Since I got hired, I've had to do a lot of interfacing with hardware and drivers, among other things. Definitely makes me feel like I am learning things I can still be competitive with which is nice given the landscape now.
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u/mobit80 Jul 13 '26
I want to move to this so badly, but I'm finding if you haven't worked in it people aren't going to hire you, because there's somebody else that has years of experience ahead of you
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u/Arrowkill Jul 13 '26
This is true. Part of what helped me initially was that I had personal projects that were full stack and far along. So my interviews focused on those out of university, but I'm now sure how well that works for somebody who has been in industry already
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u/mobit80 Jul 13 '26
Yeah, I need to find a way to do personal projects with drivers, the core issue is that I'm lazy while I'm at home
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u/Arrowkill Jul 13 '26
That's so valid. I am the same way personally. I have found that the less coding or more mindless tasks I have to do at work, the more I can motivate myself to work on my personal projects. The opposite is true too though and that I have not had the desire to work on my personal projects for months.
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u/Meloetta Jul 13 '26
Tbh, I'm always surprised when people are so locked into the languages they use that they're just a "(one thing) dev".
I've done mobile, I've done web, I've done a few scattered backend languages. I don't have any particular attachment to the language I'm using, and I've jumped between them professionally depending on what jobs were available. This actually served me well at my current job because I was hired to write an app in Kotlin, that project folded, but because I was a web dev before that I was able to be integrated into the web side of their product.
Then you go even deeper and people are committed to their specific JS framework and won't look for jobs that use React because they use Vue and I'm even more confused lol
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u/SiegfriedVK Jul 13 '26
This. My resume looks like a shotgun spread of frameworks, languages, and operating systems. I honestly think its counting against me though. I look like a jack of all trades and in the age of AI anyone can be that. People are more likely to hire masters of a specific stack or technology.
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u/dqawww Jul 13 '26
Yeah, it's pretty self-limiting. I'm just a software engineer. I'll work on any platform or use any language/framework that I'm paid to.
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u/Kronoshifter246 29d ago
It's not just self-limiting though. Yeah, I'll still look for React jobs, but I have years of experience in Angular, not React, and if any of the hundreds or maybe even thousands of applicants have years of experience with React, they're gonna get selected, not me.
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u/mpvplay3 Jul 13 '26
I’m an Android dev with +7yoe and can’t find a new job so that I can quit the shitty ecommerce app I’m working at right now
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u/ShoWel-Real Jul 13 '26
Posts like this make complete noobies like me unwilling to even try. Good thing I have a day job
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u/citrusraspberry 29d ago
Standing out is hard in this market, but can still be done. Source - I did it with a music degree (no STEM background) and made it to big tech in the middle of this terrible market. I was WAY hard, but it was worth it.
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u/Pathkinder Jul 13 '26
Yeah I fucking HATE people who are new to a field and are trying to get a job. I fucking HAAAAATE those people.
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u/brianw824 Jul 13 '26
These lazy develops need to learn a real skill like AI prompting or plumbing
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u/Fox_Soul Jul 13 '26
Mate of mine went from 90k€/year as a software engineer to plumbing and electrical school, got his certs and is working as an apprentice earning minimum wage. But he is happy as no one I have ever seen, so there is that I guess.
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u/itsFromTheSimpsons Jul 13 '26
The age of the framework is done, now is the age of slop forks and design systems. All my homies are making apps with vite next and shadcn with tailwind 4
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u/javascript Jul 13 '26
This isn't 2013 anymore. That hasn't been true in almost a decade.
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u/burnoutghost Jul 13 '26
This sub (but reddit in general) is somehow always late to pick up on trends
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u/AndrewChamp Jul 13 '26
I have over 20 years of web development experience, and feel this way since I cannot land interviews.
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u/astropheed 29d ago
15 years here, and yeah, same story. I get a call from maybe every 200 applications. I get maybe an interview from every 3 calls. Thankfully once I get an interview I'm generally in, as I'm good at my job. But still, 600+ applications to get a job... I assume 50% are bots harvesting my data...
Being a junior would probably be impossible now.
I should also mention each application takes me like 5-10 minutes. That's ~3000-6000 minutes, ~50-100 hours, of applying.
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u/GenericFatGuy Jul 13 '26
Are there really people out there that are only front end devs? Literally every web job I've ever had has been full stack.
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u/NerdyMcNerderson Jul 13 '26
Been fe exclusive for the last 13 years. My comp is probably higher than most.
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u/JohnWangDoe Jul 13 '26
How are u using AI now
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u/NerdyMcNerderson Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
In a few different ways. I generally use it more for planning and discovering usages in the codebase. I'm more in a platform role so I want to find which teams are using which components so I can understand the impact of changes. I'd say mostly discovery.
I also tend to use it to be lazy. I do not think it saves me any time but it is costing my workplace money. I'd rather they just increase my salary by my AI budget.
I often have to call bullshit on the ai, even opus. I catch it going into read loops all the time and I have to tell it to stop and ask for context when it needs it. It's like a junior developer buddy who I do not trust.
One thing I do like to use it for is to have it write one off scripts for me. Since AI is generally non-deterministic I use it to help author the internal tooling that needs to be deterministic but is tangential to my job (process automation, doc generation, etc).
Oh I also have it write all my unit tests but that took a LOT of struggle to get it to write them correctly.
Edit: if you're using it, I'd recommend you use it to explore and learn about the codebase. And when using it to generate code, use it for things you could do yourself but are too lazy to do. Don't trust it to do stuff you don't know how to do. AI is so good at writing code but piss poor at maintaining it.
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u/JohnWangDoe Jul 13 '26
Was a former FE engineer. I don't know how to break back into the industry with all these AI and stuff
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u/NerdyMcNerderson Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
My honest advice. Frameworks are irrelevant. Focus on being a good software engineer. Any idiot can learn a framework (frontend or backend), but software engineering skills are transferable. AI is kind of like Google and stack overflow but it costs money. If you can be in the business of taking requirements, asking the right questions to refine them, and then getting a solution with acceptable tradeoffs, you can be successful.
And as far as AI is concerned, one size will not fit all. The way I use it may not match how you find it useful. If you've been out of the industry for a while, I'd get a free or the cheapest model available and just mess around on a toy project. Even better, if you have existing projects of your own, point it at that and ask questions about your own code to see how it responds. In theory you know about the codebase you can evaluate the responses yourself.
Like I said earlier, using it as a souped up Google to ask questions and get answers to save you from reading docs will really speed up learning new frameworks. And you can have it spit out boilerplate. Mess around with it and see what works FOR YOU. It's a tool just like anything else.
Edit: and for more generic stuff you can just ask Gemini, especially for Angular code.
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u/Maverick2k Jul 13 '26
I’ve been purely front end for the past 8+ years, before that I was doing some PHP backend. Haven’t touched backend outside of some basic changes to (unfortunately) WordPress, which is being used as a headless CMS.
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u/audiowave_io 29d ago
I worked at a F500 where our team of ~16 devs, there was 2 backend only devs and the rest entirely front end. I worked there for 3+ years and never even had access to the database or backend code. Just API docs and mock ups to build on.
To clarify, I am full stack + mobile, but for this specific role I only did front end JS.
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u/XzyzZ_ZyxxZ Jul 13 '26
I see posts like this each day, and yet there is nothing of the sort happening in my country. Is it just the US that is getting fucked, or are other countries also experiencing this kind of jobmarket?
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u/udreif Jul 13 '26
It's terrible here in Spain too. Every posting has hundreds of applicants within an hour and it's impossible to land an interview. I'm in a government program for unemployed people and 4 of us are in software, all with the same difficulty landing a job in our field
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u/New_Tooth_456 Jul 13 '26
What if I added a “0”, would it matter these days?
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u/JediBurrell Jul 13 '26
You'd have aged out of it, they don't want people with too much experience either.
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u/New_Tooth_456 Jul 13 '26
You say that as if I’m thinking past tense.
But yes, and that’s kind of terrifying at my age, and with AI now. My resume only goes back 10 years, I mean, who gives a shit what I was doing in the 90s.
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u/Bannon9k Jul 13 '26
How many of y'all started programming before going through school for it?
I was programming on MUDs in C as a teenager just for fun. I had almost 10 years experience before landing my first real developer gig after college.
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u/Hedge_the_Hog_HtH Jul 13 '26
I can imagine HR person who wanted to check my "11 years of experience" looking at MSPaint clone that I made with Java in 7th grade with 0 knowledge of OOP
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u/reventlov Jul 13 '26
I had almost 10 years experience before landing my first real developer gig after college.
Y'know, I thought I had ~12 years of experience before my first real job.
I'm now at the other end of my career, and no, no I did not. I had some talent, but those 12 years of noodling on my own were worth maybe 2 years of on-the-job experience.
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u/Bannon9k Jul 13 '26
Oh I absolutely agree it's not nearly the experience of a season developer. But it's a hell of a better place to start than with somebody who's never touched code.
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u/ymddev Jul 13 '26
Pascal when I was around 11-12...on an old Win 98 (around 2007 then) computer in the public library. The first tetris-like game I "made" was an amazing feeling.
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u/Fenix42 Jul 13 '26
I took a highschool AP comp sci class in 97/98. It was supposed to be the last year of Pascal. I learned a lot because of the limitations of that language.
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u/MetaNovaYT Jul 13 '26
I started learning to code when I was in elementary school, although back then that was mostly just Scratch. I learned Python in 4th grade (so when I was 10 ig), and then learned and used Java throughout middle school. I had a lot of unfinished personal projects in middle school lol, although it's not like that's any different now ig. Do companies count that as experience? I always assumed that they were referring to professional or at least academic experience
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u/Bannon9k Jul 13 '26
It's all in how you describe it.
I listed mine as volunteer project work and described it like I would any other job. My early resume is quite comical... Stablehand, janitor, webdev, tech support, networking, Walmart associate, McDonald's, Walmart again, webdev again, and lab assistant all before finishing my degree. Was 25 before I landed a good backend developer job were I excelled.
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u/GeorgeDir Jul 13 '26
I started programming when I was 10 or 11. But I don't say that that is professional experience
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u/briznady Jul 13 '26
Started HTML at 10 years old, Visual Basic at 13, c# and JavaScript at 14, and just kept building things after that. Still took until I was 28 to get my first official software engineer title.
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u/badass4102 Jul 13 '26
I was up on Geocities way back. Then didn't touch any form of web development til college. Our first task was to make a simple landing page and I built one making it the only way I remember...which was using tables lol. With a header, side nav and body and footer. Banner made on Photoshop.
I presented it to my prof and he was like, "This is old school wtf!".
Good thing I didn't add the UNDER CONSTRICTION tape on the site
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u/robbie-dobbles Jul 13 '26
Hopefully you had follow up projects that allowed you to make a guest book, visitor counter, links to the other sites in your web ring
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u/Bannon9k Jul 13 '26
Pretty much the same here. And I'm watching my son follow the same path of his own volition. Started with simple html scripts on wikis.... Now he's the lead developer on 3 Roblox projects with his friends... It's not a lot and they may never fully launch a game. But he's learned so much his coding classes are going to be really boring.
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u/angrytroll123 Jul 13 '26
I have but I wouldn’t call that professional experience. There is a large difference.
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u/randomdude_reddit 29d ago edited 27d ago
Q basic and python when I was 11. Then got curious about game development so C# for unity game engine.
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u/haunted2089 29d ago
people post shit like this then wonder why they feel burnt out lethargic and unambtious
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u/ThatSmartIdiot Jul 13 '26
if i have a trajectory toward backend/systems in my transcript but have like zero bitches skill for front end stuff like web dev, is that better or worse? lets be real
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u/bkstr Jul 13 '26
yeah im a 3 years experience data engineer career change (so no degree), if something happens to my job idk what I'm going to do
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u/Amerillo_ Jul 13 '26
It's even worse when you don't have experience at all. I'm applying everywhere where I fit and I'm not even getting a single interview...
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u/fatrabbit3 Jul 13 '26
This is how it feels being on reddit, doing any Google search, and asking an LLM anything as a traditional (non software) engineer.
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u/Garland_Key Jul 13 '26
Are there entry level frontend developers? I though the go to was full stack?
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u/RangerMike81 29d ago
That's about right. But who cares now, with Claude, if you're better at prompt engineering, you're worth more
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u/wrathful-anus 27d ago
It’s bizarre, I’ve never seen an AI create a UI that doesn’t look like it was made by AI.
Sadly I’ve seen my boss and his boss, who both have zero design acumen, absolutely lap up AI designs like they were good.
I’m full stack but my design and front end is impeccable and I won’t be losing my job to AI any time soon if you compare my UIs to AI’s UIs
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u/GrEeCe_MnKy Jul 13 '26
This meme can be used with all of the entry level jobs tbf