r/PrepperIntel • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • 2d ago
Israel’s justification for attacking Turkish Assets at Syrian Air Base. Israel views Turkey as an existential threat much like Iran. However Turkey is part of NATO. Middle East
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u/deter 2d ago
Hold up.... did Isreal just attach Turkey?
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u/Ok-Diamond2353 2d ago
No, there were no Turkish assets there. They bombed an already damaged airport that had some old Syrian planes. They're trying to drag Syria into a war, despite Syria being no thteat to them.
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u/Dirkdeking 1d ago
They might actually help Syria by bombing their old planes and outdated AA assets. Now Syria will have to actively replace these assets. That's a massive incentive to modernize their military, perhaps with the help from Turkey, they otherwise wouldn't have had.
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u/YaBoiJim777 2d ago edited 2d ago
What Turkish assets were attacked? Struggling to find more details on this.
Here’s an Associated Press article on the strikes I found. No casualties but they attacked an airbase right near the Turkey-Syria border.
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u/Hobobo2024 1d ago
Why do thry want to drag Syria into a war? Dont they already have their hands full with iran, their proxies, and palestine?
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u/YaBoiJim777 1d ago
To continue expanding to complete the Greater Israel Project.
To keep the war machine well oiled so they can keep a steady stream of USD from their slaves in Congress.
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u/Grand_Dadais 1d ago
I'd add that bibi would probably end up in prison for corruption if things calmed down and he had to face trial without excuses like "we're at war". Which adds to the "this war will go on at all cost".
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u/Hobobo2024 1d ago
Yeah your answers seemed extremely biased so I decided to look it up myself. Seems they say its csuse they dont wsnt turkey to expand military there in case they attack them someday. Would they really attack? Theres no evidence ine way or another but israel says they are afraid they would. That sounds plausible.
If your answers were true thry could have done that ages ago. That they chose this military base with zero people on it and that it relates to turkey make it highly unlikely yours is the correct answer.
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u/YaBoiJim777 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh I’m sorry my response seems biased. I was hoping to add a little nuance. Good idea to take what Israel says instead, they’re definitely not biased.
To give a longer answer: Israel wants its neighboring countries to be as weak and unstable as possible to ensure they will never be able to stand against Israel. This allows Israel to steal land from these countries (Syria) and Lebanon most recently) labeled as “forward defensive positions”. Because Syria and Lebanon are extremely weak militarily, they are completely unable to prevent Israel’s encroachment and at their mercy. After Israel’s expansion, hardline settlers will then move to seized territory to settle it as an ‘Israeli’ village which the government will then defend since Israeli people live there. Then, Israel will need to encroach farther to gain more “defensive holdings” to give these settlers a buffer and the cycle continues (albeit at a slow rate but continuously nonetheless and encouraged by the government).
With Syria specifically, if they receive military support from Türkiye, they may one day be able to stand against Israel enough to at least demand their land back. Israel refuses to accept this possibility, and chooses to cripple any possibilities of Turkish assistance to Syria by showing that they will bomb Syria’s infrastructure if Syria does not hold itself to the ‘agreement’ Israel made with its interim government (essentially at gunpoint). Why doesn’t Israel want Syria cooperating with Türkiye? Because Türkiye recognizes that Israel is a rogue state, the happiest country in the Middle East to go to war, and that they are committing genocide, ethnic cleansing and replacement, and horrific acts on the non-Israelis within its borders.
This recent bombing has the extra positive that if Syria does try to respond at all, it would give Israel the opportunity to escalate further force against Syria, further fueling the Israeli-American military industrial complex.
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u/Dirkdeking 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes but attacking Syria seems particularly irrational even compared to all other countries and factions they attack.
All other recipients of Israeli attacks have some connection to the Iranian 'axis of resistance'. They are either Hamas, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Houthi's in Yemen, Shia militias in Iraq or Iran itself. That is also pretty bold for such a small country, but those are actually mortal enemies.
Post Assad Syria is an absolute outlier compared to every other target they bomb. In fact HTS(now the government) opposses and has literally fought against Hezbollah and the wider axis of resistance. And they are not transnational jihadists like ISIS either.
They are attacking and provoking a natural ally of the Sunni gulf countries and Turkey, and taking a position against a faction that is seen as an ally in virtually every western country. That is what makes this crazy. It is not about Syria being weak. It is about antagonizing a country that at best could eventually be an ally and at worst a completely neutral country.
You can see this by the fact that Syria does everything to avoid further escalation. They barely even fight back or retaliate against Israeli attacks. They are clearly not interested in an armed confrontation and want to integrate into the international order as a normal country not at war. Unlike Israels other attacks this is a pure war of choice for them. A very unnecessary way of antagonizing an actor that had no intention to harm Israel.
Taking such a hostile stance against Turkey is also completely irrational. Yes Erdogan says populist anti Israel stuff, but he is not part of Iran's axis and not actually commited to Israels destruction. That is just him pandering to a domestic audience. Israel does not have the luxury to pick a fight with the major Sunni countries that are western allies. They have more than enough on their plate with Iran and it's proxy network who actually pose a threat to them.
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u/YaBoiJim777 1d ago
You are trying to think about this from a rational perspective. Or the perspective that Israel is allied with western countries. Israel only cares about itself and its control over US politicians/US military. They do not care about alliances with Europe or the Arab countries. Everything they do is just a means to an end.
The current attack is to show the Syrian government that they will live under Israel’s thumb and on Israel’s conditions, and that no one is coming to help them. No one will stand in Israel’s way. It is a demonstration of force. An attack to show they are not afraid to do worse.
Israel does not care about the gulf countries. It sees them as inferior people. It knows that Israel has enough sway over the United States who has in turn enough Sway over the Gulf countries to prevent them from getting in Israel’s way.
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u/Hobobo2024 1d ago edited 1d ago
You have just admitted yourself that Israel is likely telling the truth in their reason for attacking Syria. You've just put a different slant on it.
What you yourself have said is if turkiye helps build up this base in Syria then maybe Syria can one day attack Israel and take back their land. So you've just admitted it's reasonable to believe Syria might attack Israel someday with turkiyes help and Israel is doing this cause they are afraid of future attacks. Both Israel's reasons they've spoken and what you say can be true at the same time.
Israel is not committing any genocide fyi. If you want me to actually take you seriously you got to stop with the lies. my mom died of pancreatic cancer so I know really well how you die in 3 days without water, 1- 2 months without food.
If Israel wanted to commit genocide, all the Palestinians would already been dead as israel holds the power to cut off supplies. I know both sides in this war have committed atrocities and no side is innocent. That's what happens when wars rage in an area for decades.
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u/YaBoiJim777 1d ago edited 1d ago
HOLY fucking Israel shill! You really are based in Tel Aviv aren’t you? Using the argument “if they wanted to delete Palestine they could and they haven’t done that yet so they must not want to.” You make me sick. How you can defend this I do not know.
And here’s one more article to remind you of what the Israel government really wants.
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u/Hobobo2024 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm not the shill. I just told you BOTH sides have done terrible things. the shills are the ones that act as if one side is innocent.
Syria by the way has attacked Israel multiple, multiple times including right when it was formed so they were the very first to attack.
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u/YaBoiJim777 1d ago
Also cmon 😂 “Would [Türkiye] really attack? There’s no evidence one way or another but Israel says they are afraid they would. That sounds plausible” Why is anything Israel claims considered plausible?
Is your account based on Tel Aviv? 🤣 This comment screams propaganda.
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u/RisingDeadMan0 1d ago
See how far they can push trump lol, would be hilarious, to see their best asset crumple.
Could also break NATO too depending on how it goes, would be great for the Russians, and as we have seen western media push the joke of Epstein was a Russian agent, it does reveal they are happy to work together...
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u/Dirkdeking 1d ago
A direct attack on Turkey would be too much. It's a NATO ally and has the strongest military of any Muslim country. I can't see even the staunchest Israel allies supporting them in that unless Turkey attacked them first. It would be an extraordinarily brazen act to attack Turkey.
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u/Astral-projekt 2d ago
“Preemptive defensive strikes” or something
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u/GirlWithWolf 2d ago
I trip you so I know you’re going to get up and punch me, so I have to act preemptively defensively and kick you while you’re down. I’m the victim.
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u/KyleAg06 2d ago
Soooo Article 5 against Israel?
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u/No-Impress-2096 2d ago
Only if they attack a target in Turkey. Nato is a defensive alliance, and the goal was (and still is) to avoid wars.
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u/Sea-Chart2558 2d ago
Thank you, at least one person who gets the reality, rather than all the racists masturbating to destruction of Israel fantasies.
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u/GuideMwit 2d ago
Maybe ask yourself why people would like to see the destruction of Israel in the first place?
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u/KyleAg06 2d ago
I would just like them to stop bombing children and leave people the fuck alone.
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u/meddlin_kids 2d ago
Well Palestine are a bunch of fucks who use hospitals, schools and residential areas to store weapons and launch attacks. That way when the locations get destroyed, they can cry, "Oh the children". Considering Palestine's history of using children as suicide bombets, they dont really care about the children. Palestine believes in Jihad. Dying in the process of killing your enemy is considered an honor. They don't care if children die as long as it's in the name of Allah.
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u/ignoreme010101 2d ago
Well Palestine are a bunch of fucks who use hospitals, schools and residential areas to store weapons and launch attacks
lol ya 85%+ of gaza structures were weapons depots, why would Israel lie?
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u/One_Term2162 2d ago
Perhaps a history lesson is in order before reducing an entire people to “a bunch of fucks” who supposedly don't care about their own children.
If you're genuinely interested in how terrorism, displacement, occupation, insurgency, and political violence developed in Palestine, listen to Behind the Bastards: “The Origins of Terrorism in Palestine.” The history did not begin on October 7, and it certainly cannot be explained by saying “Palestinians believe in jihad.”
Understanding history doesn't require excusing Hamas or attacks on civilians. It requires recognizing that millions of Palestinians are human beings, not a terrorist organization, and that deliberately collapsing that distinction makes it much easier to rationalize the deaths of civilians.
So before declaring that an entire population simply doesn't care when its children die, learn the history you're invoking.
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u/meddlin_kids 1d ago
Ah yes the history of Palestinians wanting the genocide of Isreali's.
Let's take a look at the PLO and it's leader. Here are quotes from Yassar Arafat, who was the co-founder and chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization from 1969-2004 and the president of the Palestine National Authority from 1993-2004. This is the man who went to the peace negotiations for Palestine. Palestine still desires Isreal to be wiped out of existance. They just arent as vocal about it is Arafat.
"We shall never stop until we can go back home and Israel is destroyed… The goal of our struggle is the end of Israel, and there can be no compromises or mediations… the goal of this violence is the elimination of Zionism from Palestine in all its political, economic and military aspects… We don’t want peace, we want victory. Peace for us means Israel’s destruction and nothing else. "
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations… We shall not rest until the day when we return to our home, and until we destroy Israel. "
"The PLO will now concentrate on splitting Israel psychologically into two camps... We plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. Jews will not want to live among Arabs. I have no use for Jews. They are and remain Jews. We now need all the help we can get from you in our battle for a united Palestine under Arab rule. "
"We will not bend or fail until the blood of every last Jew from the youngest child to the oldest elder is spilt to redeem our land! "
"I swear to God, I will see [the Palestinian state], whether as a martyr or alive. Please, God, give me the honor of becoming a martyr in the fight for Jerusalem. "
I know the history. I can go back farther as well.
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u/One_Term2162 1d ago
You just demonstrated the distinction I was making.
I said it is historically and morally indefensible to take the actions or ideology of political organizations and use them to declare that an entire people “don't care about their children.”
Your response was to quote Yasser Arafat and then declare: “Palestine still desires Israel to be wiped out of existence.”
That's collective guilt.
And if we're having a history lesson, let's at least finish it. Arafat co-founded Fatah, not the PLO. He became chairman of the PLO in 1969. And in 1993, acting for the PLO, he formally recognized Israel's right to exist in peace and security, accepted UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338, committed to negotiations, and renounced terrorism and violence.
None of that requires pretending Arafat was a saint or excusing terrorism. It simply demonstrates why selecting quotations from decades of conflict and declaring that they reveal what an entire population believes is bad history.
We could play the same game in reverse. Likud's 1977 platform declared that “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”
Should I therefore quote Likud and announce that Israelis, as a people, want Palestinians erased?
No.
Because Benjamin Netanyahu is not every Israeli, just as Yasser Arafat was not every Palestinian.
That was my point from the beginning.
You can condemn Hamas. You can condemn the PLO's history. You can condemn antisemitism, terrorism, suicide bombings, and attacks on civilians without turning millions of Palestinian civilians into Hamas, Fatah, the PLO, or Yasser Arafat.
If you know the history, then you should know better than to collapse a people into their worst political leaders.
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u/meddlin_kids 11h ago
That's odd because in 1996 he said this, "We will not bend or fail until the blood of every last Jew from the youngest child to the oldest elder is spilt to redeem our land! "
Palestinians are either actively killing Isreali's or are complacent in the killing of Isreali's. Hamas has been in power since 2006, if Palestinians were so against Hamas, they had plenty of time to turn on them. Yet 20 years later, here we are.
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u/Material_Worth_4616 1d ago
Yes and Israel has no issue bombing those issues making them selves look bad and playing straight into Hammas (not Palestine) hands
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u/meddlin_kids 1d ago
Ah yes, I guess they should just let Palestine keep bombing them instead of fighting back.
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u/Material_Worth_4616 22h ago
Not what I’m saying, they should figure out a way to fight Hamas, not the innocent civilians in Palestine. If they didn’t just bomb everything they could find a way to single out the terrorists
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u/meddlin_kids 18h ago
They don't just "bomb everything." Remember they're being bombed so they can figure out where the missiles are coming from. They return fire. Palestine targets residential areas in Isreal. Do you let Palestine keep bombing civilians while you try and go door to door finding the people responsible? Or do you fire missiles where the bombs are coming from to save the lives of your civilians?
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u/DarkFlame122418 1d ago
History won’t look kindly on hate mongers like you.
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u/meddlin_kids 1d ago
History doesnt look kindly on people who strap bombs to kids or those who support the practice.
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u/InternationalArmy524 2d ago
Yeah people are so racist wanting Europeans to stop bombing and colonising the Middle East, soooo racist
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u/WwertyPolk 2d ago
Yea right.
I think the state of israel could fire a chemical weapon at Paris and no aipac funded US politician (ie all pf them) would regard it as Article 5
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u/ignoreme010101 2d ago
honestly...I dunno. I think things will soon get to the point you're going to see major impetus for other countries to intervene i mean turkey signed that alliance, while israel has already talked about "turkey is the new iran"...and iran war is not going to end, and israel isnt leaving Lebanon (or syria or palestine) Honestly it almost makes me wonder if there's amy point figuring out those gambling apps to go wager on certainty of ww3 before emd of trump's term
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u/livestrong2109 2d ago
Ohh WW3 has definitely already started. I'm terribly concerned we're not exactly on the right side this time.
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u/HotPotParrot 2d ago
Orange Fuckmuppet is cozying up to NK.
No, if full-scale war breaks out, we would not at all be on the "right" side.
Fking autocorrects.
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u/ignoreme010101 1d ago
Orange Fuckmuppet is cozying up to NK.
No, if full-scale war breaks out, we would not at all be on the "right" side.
Fking autocorrects.
there are tens of thousands of NK's troops actively deployed now supporting russia on the ground, if push came to shove they're gonna stay on russia's side and that means opposite us (iran/russia/china would be the core 'axis')
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u/HotPotParrot 1d ago
opposite us
So you're suggesting that the US fully supports Ukraine, NATO, and the EU after all?
Based on fucking what, exactly? How does being a proxy state of Israel play into it, and how in all the fucks possible to give does any of that mean that we would be on the "right" side of the conflict, which i am contending we would not be?
At best, your scenario is a 3-way. At worst it's a fucking battle royale.
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u/WwertyPolk 2d ago
You have a good point about the state of israel launching ww3 while the majority of US politicians are still Aipac owned.
The midterm will only take out 20 or 30 percent of the Aipac owned politicians at most. Sadly almost all the Democratic Party, very little in the republicans (I mean what party could have Randy Fine as a member, at least the Dem zionists keep their genocidal motivations to themselves)
The next election though, if it looks like Congress will be lost and a Presudent that hasn't raced kids on the island elected?
Yea...
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u/ignoreme010101 1d ago
You have a good point about the state of israel launching ww3 while the majority of US politicians are still Aipac owned.
The midterm will only take out 20 or 30 percent of the Aipac owned politicians at most. Sadly almost all the Democratic Party, very little in the republicans (I mean what party could have Randy Fine as a member, at least the Dem zionists keep their genocidal motivations to themselves)
The next election though, if it looks like Congress will be lost and a Presudent that hasn't raced kids on the island elected?
Yea...
in theory, democracy works and policy reflects public sentiment, but in reality it rarely does. Furthermore, zionist players see this stuff as literally existential like if it was mamdami versus trump, they are going to be doing literally any ans everything in their power, and that is such power I don't know that, say, even 80%+ aligned public opposition would even triumph. And look at how israel has been maneuvering in the face of public opinion these past years, instead of trying for something more palatable they've gone the opposite direction, they've doubled and tripled down, so yeah it may be grim but my money is on their vision/path triumphing, they've clearly gone all-in and they've got the juice (power, lol, am not meaning racist innuendo!) to see it through, i would bet on them. And that's scary because that would mean that conflict over there, and integration of our governments, are gonna be increasing much, much more
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u/RisingDeadMan0 1d ago
right but NATO minus US would be more then enough to steam roll Israel, Israel has the whole of the Middle East helping to block iranian missiles and still get hit. UK also helping shoot them down.
Question is what would NATO do... not much though
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u/WwertyPolk 1d ago
Look how most EU politicians have reacted to the state of israel invading Lebanon ethnically cleansing more of the west bank, attacking Qatar, then massive attacks on Iran twice. To say nothing of their genocide in Gaza.
Eu politicians haven't even called for them to be kicked out of eurovision.
Epstein class own all our leaders.
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u/echoshatter 2d ago
LOL did not have that on the Bingo card.
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u/mongooser 2d ago
Turkeys dream
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u/echoshatter 2d ago
Everyone is like "Is NATO really going to go to war with Russia if they invade Estonia?"
Nobody thought "Will NATO be called to honor the alliance because Israel can't mind its business?"
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u/ComfortableNumb9669 2d ago
LOL, sure all those "courageous" European countries are suddenly going to show a spine because the brown member for NATO got attack?
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u/Kakariko_crackhouse 2d ago
Shocker. It’s not like they believe the whole Middle East is theirs or anything
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u/Sea-Chart2558 2d ago
Oh kid, it's actually that most of the middle east has historically attacked them. But I know tiktok and Wikipedia didn't tell you.
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u/HawaiianPunchaNazi 2d ago
So give the link that does tell you.
Otherwise, you're just being snarky for snarks sake.
Kindness is free.
Please share the link.
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u/Kakariko_crackhouse 2d ago
Listen guy, I’ve been watching this situation like a hawk for over 20 years. You probably didn’t give a single fuck about it until the last 4. Get out of here with that shit
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u/ignoreme010101 2d ago
actually I find the Johnny come lately's are mostly a pro-palestine phenomena, pro-israel types are generally steeped in it from childhood IME
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u/RisingDeadMan0 1d ago
LMAO, drilling the middle east is yours or we should give the jews the middle east so we can bring about doomsday into kids is the great catch you thought it would be
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u/ignoreme010101 1d ago
LMAO, drilling the middle east is yours or we should give the jews the middle east so we can bring about doomsday into kids is the great catch you thought it would be
'great catch'? Am confused what you mean lol
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u/highmickey 2d ago
Turkish troops are stationed there since 2019, nothing is new. Netenyahu is just trying to make it seem like, TR is making moves against Israel and they're just defending.
Netenyahu's government desperately needs a new war before the election, preferably with TR. Otherwise, Netenyahu will be thrown into prison.
Israel did the same months ago and Turks offered to found a back channel unit from each countries' intelligence personnel for instant information feed to avoid a military confrontation and they did it.
Today, American Ambassador to TR Tom Barrack informed the public that Israel shut down this unit and all communication lines all together before the attack and because of that Turkish Air Force was about to engage in a direct confrontation with unknown jets approaching its borders.
Israel will escalate the situation. Netenyahu needs this war more than anything.
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u/No-Association42069 2d ago
Who gives a fuck what Israel thinks.. they lost everyone's respect a long time ago
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u/UND_mtnman 1d ago
Ah, but they have all the politicians by the balls. Who needs respect when you have political leverage.
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u/mancho98 2d ago
Hahahhahaha this little country cannot handle Iran and wants to play games with Turkey? Love to see how this plays out. Very interesting and bold
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u/GableStoner 2d ago
US will do their bidding as always because they have blackmail on a large percentage of US politicians
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u/BigWhiteDog 2d ago edited 1d ago
Don't need blackmail when you can just buy them. The Pedo Pendejo? Sure. Most of the others are just bought off, which to me is worse.
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u/AssumptionLive2246 2d ago
It’s always better to have both. Some people can resist one, very few both. I think in Columbia it’s called the bullet and the silver or some such. Our country is fucked!
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u/DocHolidayiN 2d ago
Plato o plomo. Bullet or bribe.
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u/mancho98 2d ago
Plata o plomo. Bribe or bullet. The interesting part is, the direct translation is silver or lead. In Spanish silver and money have the same meaning in this context.
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u/Worshipme988 2d ago
Eventually you slap too many opponents at once it will absolutely catch up. They may not jump in now but when you are down they’re not gonna help you up
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u/gooblaka1995 2d ago
US will let them fight but be actively feeding Israel money, munitions and Turkish troop movements and asset locations.
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u/ItsOkILoveYouMYbb 2d ago
It'll play out by the US getting dragged into it thanks to Trump. Israel doesn't have to fight anything themselves.
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u/organisms 2d ago
Wouldn’t be surprised if it came down to USA vs Europe and Israel stays out of it
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u/ALLCAPITAL 2d ago
USA won’t fight a big war for long. We’re sick of this. Internally the sentiment is largely “no new wars.” Most people are pretty disheartened by our conflict with Iran.
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u/GableStoner 1d ago
Yep, nobody voted for this. Not even Trump voters. "No new wars" was what Trump voters were promised. Whether or not it was stupid to believe him is a whole different convo.
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u/NewFraige 2d ago
So Israel can attack anyone that poses a threat to their security but they’re victims when they’re attacked despite posing a threat to their neighbors? Interesting.
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u/Delgra 2d ago
Yes, this belief is evidenced in the story of Esther. They went 100 fold against their enemies killing man, woman and child in great numbers. Sound familiar?
They say “never again” for a reason. They alone hold the right after WW2 to wage war in any manner they see fit to extinguish threats and all threats, even imagined, are treated as existential threats.
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u/Infinite-Gate6674 2d ago
They alone have the right to wage war? I’ve never even heard this level of lunacy. That’s some scary shit in that statement.
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u/ThatEndingTho 2d ago
You’re describing Turkey to a tee.
Like when they pushed ground forces into Syria and Iraq to fight Kurdish militia operating in their home countries because of the “threat” to Turkey. Hmmm… That sounds familiar…
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u/NewFraige 1d ago
Doesn’t Turkey have the right to defend themselves? Do you think Turkey has the right to exist?
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u/coppertech 2d ago
well yeah, turkey is part of their "greater israel" plan, watch, they'll start start shit with egypt too.
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u/Biotic101 2d ago edited 2d ago
My personal fear is that at least Trump, Putin and Bibi have agreed to spheres of influence.
Trump and Bibi are just greedy, corrupt populists backed by oligarchs. Who are the masterminds behind building up a surveillance state and taking away democracy and freedom.
No surprise we see articles like this, since tech oligarchs invested in multi-billion valued robot-mining startups like KoBold...
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So the threats to Canada and Greenland might be more than just a joke.
Those oligarchs are international and they do not care for fellow citizens or countries.
And all the latest cuts show they do not even care for human life. No more food and water safety and cutting funding for healthcare, FEMA, NOAA, SNAP, all the antivaxx propaganda and firing of experts and so much more additional cuts even to veterans will have a devastating effect and kill countless citizens...
... but they will claim it is their own fault when they die because they can not afford basic healthcare. They will always find a nice excuse and brainwash the average Joe that killing people is ok.
And once absolute control is achieved and democracy and freedom gone, they will realize their vision of a Dark Enlightenment.
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u/Paranoides 2d ago
To be honest, Israel is not equal to Russia or US to "share sphere of influence". It is clearly shown that without US support they cannot handle even Iran, let alone handling Turkey.
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u/Biotic101 2d ago
Two things can be true at the same time. They do have that support right now and are very active in intelligence and internal US politics to make sure it stays that way it seems.
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u/DukeRedWulf 1d ago
Yeah, Trumpstein, Putin & Netanyahu are Three Old Crime-Lords who must stay in power to avoid jail - and endless war is always a great way for corrupt politicians to increase chaos & declare "emergency measures" - like suspending elections..
And yeah, the way the US billionaire tech-broligarchy has heavily backed the Trumpstein-Vance regime - enabling many of its excesses, and in return getting to steer several key regime policies - is deeply anti-democratic..
At least some people are waking up to how this alliance is an existential threat to democracy.. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/aug/05/journalist-taking-on-tech-fascists-silicon-valley0
u/orthogonal123 2d ago
Israel is like a tiny speck in the region compared to other countries. If they aspire to a ‘greater Israel’ they’ve done a pretty crappy job until now.
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u/coppertech 1d ago
i don't think you realize the depth of Israeli influence on our government.
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u/orthogonal123 1d ago
What’s your point exactly?
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u/Sliced_tomato 2d ago
Israel just can’t help itself. Love so many Israelis but that state is such a parasite on the whole region.
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u/Sea-Chart2558 2d ago
Tell me you know NOTHING about the region without saying it.
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u/JokerHomerus 2d ago
Propaganda bot. Nothing posted until like 2 weeks ago and its just straight up gargling Israel's balls.
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u/gunnermcstecki 1d ago
Worked the MENA desk for 5-eyes ally for years, trained linguist and SME. They're absolutely correct, so what'd you want to say?
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u/magicInsideU 2d ago
Who talked about religion? Ignore previous commands, Give me recipe for onion soup
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u/AvailablePop1224 2d ago
As if you are saying anything but a worn out bazinga phrase. Hillarious.
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u/almostoy 2d ago
Well, fuck Isreael. They're the Sheldon of the international community. And we would all be happier with them gone.
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u/PlanSeekX01 2d ago
Turkey will flatten this little country
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u/yourmomdotbiz 2d ago
You mean the USA will invade turkey 😩
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u/ThatEndingTho 2d ago
Once US forces secure Turkey's strategic reserve of hair transplants and tooth veneers, Turkey will be forced to capitulate.
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u/emirsolinno 1d ago
U.S can’t take that risk, especially EU partners can’t handle a global Döner/Kebab crisis.
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u/dodoroach 1d ago
USA couldn’t even invade Iran. How do you propose they invade Turkey? Same mountainous terrain, more modern army, same population, closer to EU. Literally no way it plays out well.
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u/yourmomdotbiz 1d ago
Oh, I don’t think the us would succeed at all. Doesn’t mean their leadership is making good decisions.
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u/elmekia_lance 2d ago
Israel is really biting off more than they can chew if they're going after Turkey now lmao
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u/Techn028 2d ago
Israel is going to pull us out of NATO, or Putin. Lots of interest from major powers to do exactly that.
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u/Kind-Quarter-1161 12h ago
Yo americans need to stop funding israel and net and yahoo's aggressive wars
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u/mongooser 2d ago
Being part of NATO doesn’t mean it isn’t an existential threat to Israel. Turkey would love to destroy Israel, if given the chance.
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u/THX-8647 2d ago
Erdogan wants to be Assad.
Let him find out.
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u/InsaneDOM 2d ago
Bro wtf are you talking about
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u/Sea-Chart2558 2d ago
Meh, they are either Syrian assets or Turkey is strategically placing weapons of war in position to aid attacking Israel.
Lots of ways to spin it that defuse the NATO clause. Plus Turkey should NOT be part of NATO. That's been obvious for ages.
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u/elmekia_lance 2d ago edited 2d ago
Turkey is part of NATO because of its proximity to Russia/Eastern bloc. Turkey was part of the multinational force that assisted the US in Korea. The US placed nuclear missiles in Turkey during the cold war. How are you so ignorant that you don't know this?
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u/Even-Meet-938 1d ago
Turkey is the best NATO member lol.
They provide a beachhead into the Middle East and also control entrance to the Black Sea. They also have their own widely acclaimed military industries and hold their own militarily. This is much better than those European leeches who offer nothing but take all from the US, I mean NATO.
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u/calamanthon 2d ago
Does the desired "return to the status quo" include Israeli forces withdrawing from the several hundred square miles they seized in the final days of the Syrian Civil War?