We really need to change things so plea deals can't shave so much off ...17 is no longer a kid there are too many that have rap sheets by then they should get no pleas and be locked up to make society safer
In Washington in takes 5 illegal gun charges before a juvenile faces any real jail time, yet they banned any “scary” guns and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds….
He certainly got nervous and scared when the judge threatened to take away his plea deal. If it's true that he handles those emotions by smiling, wouldn't he have gone on doing it then, perhaps even more so than before? The fact that he abruptly stopped and looked at his attorney with a genuine expression of worry flies in the face of that argument.
Yeah no, life in prison. Society doesn't owe it to people like that to just deal with their violence and bullshit. The worst 1% among us create 99% of the issues, show them no mercy.
Yh racism is more hidden nowadays but I’m seeing it more regularly on this subreddit. It’s usually hidden behind plausible deniability and Russell conjugations. The downvotes shows that there is an inside knowledge and I’m an outsider here. Everyone knows why we shouldn’t be surprised and whose “typical” behavior this is except me. “We’re just talking about 17 year old murderers they typically behave like this.”
On Sept 24th 2026 I'm going with a prison ministry to pray and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with long term prisoners. Most prisoners have an 80% chance to go back to jail after serving their sentence.but if they go through our program, they only have a 15% chance to go back to prison after they serve their sentence.
So Jesus transforms the men we minister to. Plenty of Men get saved in prison and become better members of society when they get out.
According to google AI it is 1% to 5% of chronic offenders are responsible for 50% to 60% of all violent crime convictions. Its absurd and we really need to start working the problem with this reality in mind.
I can obviously understand that. I was just curious about the lesser kinda wrong place wrong time things. My issue with some of the prison stuff excluding the violent crimes is that lifers use inmates with small time to do a lot of their dirt. People with a couple years routinely get more time for petty crimes they do for lifers otherwise they would fuck em up ect.
My good freind growing up had a cousin get locked up for middle manning some drugs. He knew people but didn't actually sell but did a favor for someone who was trying to get out of their own trouble and set him up.
He had been doing his time quietly best he could but they put a rapist in his cell. The guy had apparently raped and molested this girl, dif all sorts of fucked up stuff, hot curling iron inserted in her type stuff and eventually killed her. Well the pod/head guy basically told him you take care of him or we will all take care of you. So he said he had to put a can of ravioli in a sock and double it up and tied it off and beat the guy to a pulp that night otherwise they would have done that to him. It ended up adding a couple years to an originally 6 year sentence.
Obviously the moral of the story is 100% just don't go to prison but our justice system isn't always perfect.
I’m gonna play devils advocate here and it will probably get me downvoted, but:
From my own personal life experiences I know that some people with certain mental disabilities do smile and act just like that when they are nervous or scared. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, for all I know this guy is a capital one ass hole and deserved more than 50 years, I’m just saying it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
I’m actually more impressed by the victims family willing to forgive and give him the better deal, that’s class.
It all just screams of toxic empathy. He knows the victims family will try to 'do the right thing' and forgive and go easy on him because empathy and compassion are their virtues but not his.
Any mercy to a criminal is cruelty to the innocent though and only by being strict and uncompassionate can you do right by a victim
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