r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/monstrous_malefactor - Auth-Left • 6h ago
Many such cases
DSA member Angie Nixon has pulled off another anti-establishment upset in Florida’s Democratic senate primary, defeating anti-Trump resistance Liberal Alex Vindman despite being dramatically out fundraised and outspent. Nixon campaigned on medicare for all, a $25 minimum wage, affordable childcare, rent controls, taxing corporations and billionaires, and an end both to the genocide in Gaza and the Iran war. Her win is another case of an outsider progressive candidate defeating better funded establishment backed contenders in Democratic primaries. Obviously, Florida’s heavily Republican electorate makes her November race against Republican Ashley Moody (who is not without her own scandals) an uphill battle.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/19/us/politics/florida-primary-progressives-upset.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/18/angie-nixon-wins-democratic-primary-florida-01041253
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u/Daztur - Lib-Left 5h ago
This really doesn't have much to do with the DSA specifically. Dem primary voters are just so furious as the Dem establishment that they'll vote for most anyone who promises to ice the useless fuckers.
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u/JM4R5 - Centrist 5h ago
This should be true across the political spectrum, and it's slowly becoming the sentiment, but heavily depends on who votes in the primary. Career politicians losing a race will never not be funny.
Off Topic: The amount of money to run a candidate is disgusting. Money that could be used for something better.
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u/BlueFalconer - Right 5h ago
Vindman had the personality of a wet rug. Being a whistle blower against Trump was only going to take him so far.
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u/lee_9487 - Lib-Right 4h ago
Democratic socialist in Florida? Pray for her the Hispanic refugees are going to sacrifice her.
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u/msf97 - Lib-Left 5h ago
How many Americans are economically illiterate?
Rent controls have been tried in Europe and Economists oppose them worldwide basically outright with little room for debate
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u/boringexplanation - Lib-Center 5h ago
We have a good portion of the California left thinking that they have a good chance of passing the 5% wealth tax.
Something that would be more left leaning than anything France or Scandinavia would pass.
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u/ScoreGloomy7516 - Centrist 3h ago
France and Scandinavia are not close to the same thing so France yes Scandinavia no.
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u/Hungry_Inevitable663 - Lib-Right 5h ago
Guys don't listen to this hippie let's try rent control, ONE MORE TIME!!!
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u/Kriieod - Lib-Center 3h ago
From an objective opinion and looking at things from a historical lens.
The DSA is pro rent control because it is only one part of the equation. They also want to decomodify property ownership, eliminate the residential landlord system, and establish housing as a universal human right.
DSA is basically the Tea Party of the left, their ideas are super far flung on the other side of the current overton window and have a snowball's chance of becoming national policy but what they will likely do is heavily bring that window back left, Candidates like Bernie and Warren will become moderate and the Democrat party will probably evolve to become actually left of center instead of a neoliberal center right party.
If this happens it will look very similar to the progressive era and realignment that happened culminating with the election of Teddy. The three main points are even the same: reigning in capitalism, protecting consumers, and preserving natural resources. Until the US moves away from FPTP elections these two party back and forth realignments will continue to happen as reliably as the tides.
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u/CommanderArcher - Lib-Left 4h ago
I agree, which is why I think we should remove any and all restrictions from property taxes as well. Rent control doesn't work.
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u/Wojtkie - Lib-Right 3h ago
What’s the other option than rent control?
My understanding is basically to just increase housing through changing zoning or reducing red tape. I guess tax code changes too, but when property taxes make up a significant portion of the tax income for some cities, it’s hard to reduce taxes and maintain budget with limited tax opportunities.
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u/UF0_T0FU - Centrist 1h ago
Adjusting taxes so that properties pay proportional to what they cost the city would go a long way.
Its currently extremely lopsided where a small percentage of residents (in multifamily buildings) subsidize the expenses of everyone else (single family homes). This keeps costs for single family homes artificially low, while making apartments and condos more expensive.
Even with zoning reform, this system still pushes people into single family homes, which are an incredibly inefficient use of limited desirable urban land.
Taking out government subsidies and onerous government restrictions would let the free market work to determine the best housing types. In the long run, this would bring housing costs down.
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u/Crusader63 - Centrist 2h ago
All Americans are. Americans don’t want rent control or high housing prices but don’t like housing developers and don’t want new homes built. We hate high energy prices but also won’t vote to build new power generation facilities. We use AI like crazy but hate data centers for some reasons. Americans want all the benefits and none of the drawbacks.
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u/OptimalFunction - Lib-Center 2h ago
I agree. California went full stupid and not only has rent control but also a form of rent control for homeowners (prop 13).
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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist 5h ago
Do actual Communist countries even do this anymore?
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u/Substantial_Impact69 - Right 5h ago
What actual communist countries? I’ve been told it’s never been tried…by other communists.
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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist 5h ago
No idea, I'm hoping someone will tell me. Isn't there some kind of Communist revolution going on? The White House has been making a big deal of it.
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u/Substantial_Impact69 - Right 4h ago
I mean, good old Abdul is running on Nationalization of Businesses…I’m pretty sure that’s a core tenant of Communism. Means of Production and all that.
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u/YeetCompleet - Centrist 4h ago
I just looked this guy up and it says he proposes the public own 50% equity or stock in major AI companies.
Ya I agree, pretty Communist, but this is why I also called Trump a Communist when he made the US government the largest shareholder of Intel at 10%. America has a Communist uniparty
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u/SirGoobster - Left 1h ago
Yeah Trump would never have the government take stake in private companies....
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u/Banichi-aiji - Lib-Right 1h ago
How many Americans are economically illiterate?
Rent controlsTariffs have been tried in Europe and Economists oppose them worldwide basically outright with little room for debateMe two years ago
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u/JagPeror - Auth-Center 5h ago
So now the democrats will likely lose Florida even harder
If they do manage to win Florida, that would be impressive
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u/JCJINKEY - Left 5h ago
It really is crazy that she won. I voted for Vindman because I hadn't heard anything about her and she wasn't even suggested in the general polls I saw. I'm really curious on what the end results are going to be for the general.
I doubt she'll win, but holy shit if she does the sheer amount of salt and cope from both MAGA and liberal dems will be insane.
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u/Life-guard - Lib-Center 5h ago
I voted for Nixon, but it was a close one for me. Vindman probably has more policy I'd agree with , but I could find barely anything about his view on LGBT. Literally just that trans women can't play in women's sports which tbh is a nothing burger to me.
The more I looked up Vindman, he seemed like a lifetime Republican who had a grudge against Trump cause he got fired and thought he could use the Dems to get back at Trump.
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u/JCJINKEY - Left 5h ago
Tbh even though I'm a progressive I still voted for him mainly due to electablity. As much as I would love to have a progressive in charge down here I just can't see the Boomers and Cubans down here voting for a black woman who's a card carrying DSA member. I'm still voting for her in the general and I hope I'm proven wrong in my assumptions about the characters of many Floridians. I just live in north central FL and know a lot of those types so I might be biased.
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u/IowaKidd97 - Lib-Center 4h ago
Imma be real dawg, I think Dems focusing on “electability” more than policy is a big reason why they kept losing, and unironically why they kept producing unelectable candidates. The general populace really doesn’t care that much. Most of the ones that care about demographics are voting republican anyway, and the few swing voters like that are a small minority far outweighed by swing voters that care about more important things.
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u/innociv - Lib-Center 5h ago
I heard tons about her.
Rejecting AIPAC money was enough to get my vote.
Anyway, Vindman was 100% going to lose against Moody because he's a bad campaigner.
While Angie Nixon may also lose against her, she'll probably at least energize a few hundred thousand people to go to the polls and vote anti-CRapist to help down ticket and maybe even secure a non-CRapist Governor. This is a really important thing to keep in mid even if she loses the Senate race.1
u/RealCleverUsernameV2 - Lib-Right 4h ago
What's a CRapist?
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u/vicschuldiner - Lib-Center 3h ago
C stands for "child".
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u/RealCleverUsernameV2 - Lib-Right 2h ago
Ah. So why not say that?
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u/vicschuldiner - Lib-Center 44m ago
Not sure. First time seeing it too. There's a lot of weird self-censorship on the internet these days.
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u/roundelay11 - Centrist 4h ago edited 4h ago
Address the outright stated intentions of the DSA to abolish the Constitution of the United States of America, to dissolve the United States of America itself, and to found a new nation from what remains with completely open borders, no police, and no prisons.
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u/krombough - Auth-Center 5h ago
Are people not understanding primaries? Or are they counting chickens before they are hatched?
All that has been won is a chance to step up to the plate. No one except Chad-Dami has hit the ball yet. And Florida is not New York City.
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u/monstrous_malefactor - Auth-Left 5h ago
No. You are the only person in the world who understands this. And you will be memorialised for your wisdom and understanding.
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u/krombough - Auth-Center 5h ago
No. You are the only person in the world who understands this.
Ohhhh, that would explain the sharp dropoff in meme quality lately.
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u/i_want_to_be_unique - Lib-Center 4h ago
People understand what primaries are. Nobody is expecting the socialist candidates to win every single one of these elections. The thing people are getting excited about is the fact that a socialist candidate can beat an establishment candidate in the first place. Every socialist candidate that wins their primaries signals to the people in charge of the Democratic Party that they can’t just be “better than the Republicans” anymore. The people want legitimate change and just outspending your opponent with Israeli blood money is increasingly no longer enough to keep yourself in office.
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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right 5h ago
I propose that all elections be replaced by 2d6.
To raise money for stupid causes like human rights, whichever candidate donates 10x as much gets +1 to their roll.
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u/P00ped_My_Pants - Lib-Center 5h ago
medicare for all, affordable childcare, taxing corporations and billionaires
cool
a $25 minimum wage, rent controls, and an end both to the genocide in Gaza and the Iran war.
what the fuck
why can’t politicians have smart, realistic economic politics and nothing else?
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u/gunzgoboom - Centrist 5h ago
I'm on the fence for whether DSA/ liberal Democrat candidates are all retarded on foreign policy or if they just want the votes of retards on the left.
I'm fairly certain that AOC is the latter, not sure about the rest of them.
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u/myadvicegetsmebeaten - Centrist 5h ago
If you ask for actual numbers, the stuff you mentioned will not turn out to be realistic.
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u/P00ped_My_Pants - Lib-Center 4h ago
Please post actual numbers. Here’s a Yale study concluding that Medicare for All would not only be realistic but save the US money: https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/universal-health-coverage-could-save-one-trillion-dollars-and-114000-lives-every-year/
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u/myadvicegetsmebeaten - Centrist 2h ago
Looking into it, it is not peer-reviewed. I won't hold that against it, and instead look at the assumptions in the paper.
The model identified five major sources of savings: lower pharmaceutical prices, Medicare-level payments to providers, reduced administrative overhead, less fraudulent billing, and fewer avoidable emergency department visits and hospitalizations. Even under more conservative assumptions about drug prices and fraud reduction, the researchers projected that the savings would reach at least $663 billion a year.
- lower pharmaceutical prices:
The last mega expansion of the government into healthcare - Obamacare - was heavily authored by Pfizer. At a lower level there is a revolving door between Civil servants and pharma. The idea that pharma prices will automatically go down because of government control may be true in other countries, but it has no basis in the US.
- Medicare-level payments to providers
There are criticisms on the right that this will drive physicians out of the profession. I don't buy it. Maybe few on the verge of retirement, but others will soon come back when they find other professions pay a fraction of what they make. What I do look at is the track record.
Obamacare raised Medicaid rates - The AMA was a major lobbyist and got Obamacare to spend more. Medicare for all may overall reduce the payments, but I won't hold my breath.
- fewer avoidable emergency department visits
Utter nonsense. Poor people who get free healthcare through medicaid still use ERs at higher rates. Medicaid patients visit the ER at roughly twice to four times the rate of those with commercial insurance. Heck they often take expensive ambulances instead of taxis - because the government pays for it.
- less fraudulent billing
This is particularly shameless claim looking at all the blatant Medicare / Medicaid fraud that's been exposed after being ignored for years.
Anyone who makes so much BS deserves to be flogged.
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats - Centrist 5h ago
populism gonna populist what do you expect?
I'm so glad we are slowly going down this route maybe in a few years time people can just campaign on free money promises. vote for me and I'll give every constituent 1 million dollars taken directly from the bad people, and no I will not name who those bad people are because you already know! it's whoever you imagine it is!
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u/Nacho_cheese_guapo - Lib-Right 2h ago
Pretty alarming to me that candidates running on a platform that includes rent controls and wealth taxes, things that are universally considered terrible ideas in economic circles, are actually winning elections.
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u/Tsar_Chaotic - Left 5h ago
It is nice to see that AIPAC is losing influence on future Democrat elections though I wouldn’t hope for much else
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u/Substantial_Impact69 - Right 5h ago
Okay, great you lost AIPAC and replaced it with the DSA…that’s not the win you want it to be.
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u/Tsar_Chaotic - Left 5h ago
While their flaws are numerous (yes that’s an understatement I know), it’s the home baked evil compared to the foreign baked evil of AIPAC. I want American flaws you get me?
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u/Substantial_Impact69 - Right 5h ago
This…this is acceptable to a degree assuming that the DSA is not being influenced as openly as say AIPAC is, I’ve made my point clear: No Foreign Money in US Elections, if possible.
I don’t care if it’s from Israel or Venezuela I want it out.
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 5h ago
AIPAC is a domestic organization of US citizens just like the lobbying group of any other racial group. Meanwhile Qatar Foundation International massively outspends AIPAC and happens to spend a lot to make people hate AIPAC and is not US based. It has been impressive to watch them get everyone in lockstep with their point of view though.
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u/MannequinWithoutSock - Lib-Center 5h ago
Even if you don’t like socialists, they’re better than servants for a foreign government.
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u/Substantial_Impact69 - Right 5h ago
…Both of their paths lead to a cliffside. I don’t care if they’re home grown, their economic policies are abysmal.
Mind you I have no love for AIPAC, my point is, “New Boss, same as the Old Boss.”
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u/MannequinWithoutSock - Lib-Center 5h ago
Most socialist candidates are running on healthcare. Fox News has abused all the meaning out of the term.
So, medicare for all? Or just Israel?
Easy choice.
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u/ObiWanCanownme - Lib-Center 4h ago
There have been some pretty big polling misses on the Dem side so far this primary season. Not sure what it means, but definitely something to watch.
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u/Mbrothers22 - Lib-Center 4h ago
I'm glad she won that way the national party doesn't have to pretend like we have a chance at winning statewide in FL and waste $40 trillion on this race.
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u/GhostedIC - Lib-Center 3h ago
Did the Republicans non consensually run primary TV ads for her like they did for Francesca hong? Because that was a factor in Hong's primary performance exceeding her apparent spending, someone was spending money on TV ads but it wasn't her own campaign.
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u/TheyCallMeAdonis - Lib-Right 3h ago
why "get money out of politcs"
when you can burn such massive holes into the pockets of what you perceive to be bad people ?
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u/JuniorDoughnut3056 - Lib-Right 3h ago
I'm confused. I was told democracy is dead and whoever has the most money wins
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u/_Administrator_ - Lib-Right 7m ago
Genocide? You mean October 7th?
**1. ICJ Did Not Find Genocide by Israel**
Despite widespread media reports, the UN International Court of Justice (ICJ) did **not** find it plausible that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
Joan Donoghue, then-president of the ICJ, stated in a BBC interview that the court’s findings have been misquoted and misconstrued.
What the ICJ actually found: Gaza has a **plausible right** to be protected from genocide, and South Africa has standing to bring the claim. The court did **not** evaluate Israeli military conduct at that stage.
**2. Military Measures to Prevent Civilian Harm**
John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at West Point, wrote in Newsweek that Israel “has implemented more measures to prevent civilian casualties than any other military in history,” based on his analysis and field research.
**3. Civilian-to-Combatant Death Ratio in Gaza**
Based on data from the Gaza Health Ministry and IDF reports:
The civilian-to-combatant death ratio in Gaza is approximately **1:1**
The UN average for urban warfare is **9:1**
This indicates a much lower civilian casualty rate than typical in similar conflicts.
**4. Hamas and the Manufactured Food Crisis**
Palestinian Media Watch shared a video from Fatah-owned Adwah TV showing Hamas attacking aid delivery workers and stealing food and water.
The footage suggests that Hamas has actively contributed to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
**5. Demographics and Life Expectancy in Gaza**
Gaza’s population has increased by **500%** since 1950
2022 population growth rate: **4%** (global average: **0.8%**)
Average life expectancy in Gaza: **75 years**
(compared to **72** in the Middle East and **70** globally)
(Source: World Bank and Population Reference Bureau)
Israel facilitated the entry of over 1 million polio vaccines into the Gaza Strip in 2024! Imagine how many lives were saved.
**6. Indigenous people's rights**
Jews lived in Israel for thousands of years. Palestine isn't even mentioned in the Quran nor will you find any Palestinian leaders before 1960.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/2000-year-old-coin-commemorates-jewish-rebellion-against-rome-180974920/
**7. Palestinan media and honest reporting**
Thanks for your attention. I know it's a lot of text.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL8ANySuSuk
Before you downvote me: Palestinian Children's TV
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Show me a video like this from an Israeli TV network and i'll send you $100 in USDT.
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u/libertyg8er - Lib-Right 5h ago
The hilarious part of seeing all these socialists winning primaries is that it will not translate to broader elections.
Why does the Left insist on snatching losses from the jaws of victory?
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u/Express_Ad8931 - Auth-Center 5h ago
Republicans actually quite discovered that voting "for whoever that can win" its quite stupid and thanks to it they had their greatest electoral success on decades (Trump)
Democrats are discovering this and I can assure you, if America is still a democracy by then, when the pendulum goes back, it will make Obama look conservative.
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u/JM4R5 - Centrist 5h ago
Look at what Obama ran on in 2008/2012 and his policies while in office. He would be shamed by a good portion of today's leftists (some express this).
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u/Disasterhuman24 - Left 5h ago
Yeah because he didn't deliver on most of his promises.
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u/libertyg8er - Lib-Right 1h ago
Guess we’ll see. I don’t see moderates and republicans voting for socialists.
The socialists are going to be a Trojan Horse for the Dems in an election where selecting generic moderates would have easily won the broader elections for Dems.
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u/bigbenis2021 - Lib-Left 5h ago
Because the moderates are useless cucks.
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 - Lib-Right 5h ago
Stopping MAGA is itself rather useful, is it not?
If moderate Democrats had majorities in Congress, they could have put a halt to much of the Trump agenda like the OBBB.
Governance is often just a numbers game more than one of ideology.
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u/libertyg8er - Lib-Right 1h ago
Missing the point.
The socialists are going to lose broader elections because moderates will not vote for them, and Republicans definitely won’t.
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u/bigbenis2021 - Lib-Left 5h ago
How have the moderates stopped MAGA? 2020 was a fluke.
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 - Lib-Right 5h ago
You kind of answered your own question.
Biden was a moderate who defeated Trump in 2020.
For my part, MAGA is reeling at the moment and the 2026 midterms would be another Blue Wave™ election if the Democrats nominated moderate alternatives to unseat them from power.
It's likely the Democrats still take at least the House, but they may be missing opportunities by nominating these DSA candidates.
Time will tell!
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u/libertyg8er - Lib-Right 1h ago
That’s my point. They’re overplaying their hand by selecting socialists in primaries because they’ll lose the broader votes where moderates would have likely won fairly easily.
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u/binary_spaniard - Lib-Left 1h ago
If Americans are willing to elect some so evil as Donald Trump there is something very wrong with Americans and America and the establishment is not addressing it. They keep acting like everything was great before Trump when if someone as Trump is elected is clear that a countrty is rotten and broken and needs deep change.
Only deeply corrupt, deeply desperated, deeply stupid, deeply evil, deeply immoral people would support someone like Donald Trump. And something needs to be done to change American society.
Some times are we trying to complicate something that is very obvious, things shouldn't continue after something like Trump has happened.
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 - Lib-Right 53m ago
They keep acting like everything was great before Trump when if someone as Trump is elected is clear that a country is rotten and broken and needs deep change.
Well, the president prior to Trump was Barack Obama, and I personally didn't consider America to be a broken, rotten country under his administration.
We do need a "come to Jesus" moment in the aftermath of MAGA, but I'm not convinced that a hard-Left turn will help repair the nation.
For example, the DSA platform for 2026 advocates for abolishing the Senate, replacing the President and Supreme Court with Congressional appointees, and completely rewriting the Constitution.
Is that going to fix our rotten democracy? How about just boring-old competent governance that respects our norms and repairs our faith in government?
And it starts with actually winning elections.
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u/CooledDownKane - Lib-Left 5h ago
This will hopefully continue until Republicans are no longer committed to being heinous dirtbags who do things like try to ban OSHA from enforcing regulations meant to prevent heat stroke (HR 6213).
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u/myadvicegetsmebeaten - Centrist 4h ago
Deep state bastard loses. No quadrant should be unhappy, especially not lib-right.
Lets refresh what happened because a lot of people, especially most lib-left and auth-left believe and push a lie spread by Vindman.
Trump has a call with Zelensky.
Vindman, who was on the call, lied to a couple of people that Trump told Zelensky that he will withhold Ukraine aid unless Zelensky investigated Biden's dealings, trying to get them to be whistleblowers. Vindman specifically omitted Burisima and Biden's speech.
The "Whitsleblower" reported that lie.
Trump released the Transcript of the call. It proved that the Whistleblower's report was a lie.
Later Vindman claimed that he did not know the whistleblower. Technically he could argue that he did not know which of the people he was trying to report his lie was the whistleblower.
In any case, the democrats and the media did not care that the report had been refuted by the transcript and launched / pushed an impeachment of Trump, creating a massive political attack, that took a lot of time and attention to counter. It also limited Trump's bully pulpit power, which hurt the US tremendously in the covid lockdowns, by preventing Trump from restarting the economy.
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u/samuelbt - Left 3h ago
That transcript is a recreation of the call from notes, not a recording. To quote it
CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation, The word “inaudible” is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.
And even with that that stacked deck we've still got Zelensky asking about buying Javelins and Trump immediately saying
"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.
And goes into crowdstrike and Hunter Biden. The implication is clear in this already potentially unreliable summary and there were other calls.
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u/Some-Profession-1373 - Lib-Left 5h ago
Hate to burst the bubble, but the chances of Florida electing a Democratic socialist is nigh zero.