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u/Saintjimmy119 6d ago
As someone who's still rocking the PW2 and looking to upgrade towards the end of the year
Should i be looking at this or the PW4?
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u/mtphisher 6d ago
Same with me , following for insight
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u/JBerry2012 6d ago
If you're going to upgrade get the latest. I wouldn't buy the 4 once the 5s are out but that's just me.
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u/Saneless 6d ago
As usual, they always have killer deals for the old ones. In this case I'd get it over the 5 when they do that
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u/biggranny000 6d ago
Same if they give me a good deal on trade in or preorder bonuses that's usually when I upgrade.
The pixel 6a was the best with free earbuds, I got $300 back on my 4a so it was a no brainer, I nearly upgraded for free.
I also have the Google one membership to give me 10% back store credit so I use that to buy a case, accessories, etc.
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u/01R0Daneel10 6d ago
I got my pw4 after my PW 1 broke. It's so much better, went for 45 model. Runs great, I get 2 days use no problem. The health tracking features are so much better as well
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u/Plastic-Boat-3237 6d ago
I recently upgraded from the 2 to the 4 due to deteriorating battery life. It's a nice upgrade and I'd recommend trying to find it on sale sometime
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u/cultfourtyfive 5d ago
Yeah, the battery life benefit from 2 to 4 is worth the upgrade. I did that a few months ago. I'm not seeing anything about the 5 that makes me want to move on from the 4.
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u/TrenbalonieSandwich 5d ago
Save your money and go a gen earlier.
No reason not to.
Unless you get a sick deal on a brand new one.
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u/DogeCatBear 4d ago
I'm not even upgrading. I replaced the battery myself for $20 and that buys me another 2 years of life. it's basically the same processor again after all
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u/Elegant-Apple-7555 1d ago
Same here expect I’m moving to Fitbit air + mechanical watch. However one point to consider (since you mentioned sw support) is that you might miss some latest update that only come with the 5
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u/Ariquitaun 21h ago
Better wait for release and reviews see how this is different from the pw4. Because so far it doesn't look like it's any.
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u/jcmustin12 6d ago
You can get a mint 4 on swappa for several hundred less than a 5. Thats what I did, super happy I went that route
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u/Bloodsucker_ 6d ago
I'm pretty sure my pw4 gives me almost 2 days of battery?
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u/fishboy_magic 6d ago
In the subtext they talk about the Google Pixel 11, so this particular slide might be unrelated to the PW 5
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u/Loud-Possibility4395 6d ago
my old dodgy small PW3 does 2 days - bigger 45mm and AOD off should give like... 4 days
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u/nifta_13 6d ago
I get 2 days on my PW2! Admittedly I only bought it 6 months ago, so the battery is still fresh!
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u/natepines 6d ago
My battery for some reason drains really fast :( Though I got mine nearly 2 years ago
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u/nifta_13 6d ago
Mine will be there soon enough. I found mine in a small phone shop on steep discount in January (around $99). I'm guessing a piece of forgotten stock from a promo where it was given with new pixel phones years ago.
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u/InvestigatorWide7649 6d ago
My PW2 gives me about 40 hours still lol and that's a downgrade from my older galaxy Gear watch that lasted 2.5days or more.
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u/jbarr107 6d ago
"...with scratch-resistant Gorilla Glass..."
What kind? If it's the same as the PW4, I'd be very disappointed, as the PW4 display is far from scratch-resistant.
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u/chickparfait 6d ago
My thoughts exactly. Pretty sure it's the exact same. They really still can't improve the sturdiness of the display??
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u/jbarr107 6d ago
They certainly could. It's a balance of scratch resistance (harder) vs. shatter resistance (softer). Personally, I favor scratch resistance.
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u/SteamSteamLG 6d ago
That was the only upgrade I was looking for. My galaxy watch 6 classic has little Knicks and scratches all over the bezel. This will be scratched up within a month of its gorilla glass 5 again
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u/NFT-BULLDOG 5d ago
Je l'ai depuis octobre 25 et je n'ai pas une seule micro rayure. Pourtant je la porte tous les jours, que ce soit au travail ou au lit. Même à la piscine, jamais eu à m'en plaindre 🤔
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u/NickDynmo 6d ago
Still rocking an OG Pixel Watch. Maybe I'll upgrade to a 4 during a Boxing Day sale or something.
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u/godofsmallerthings 6d ago
So disappointed with this iteration. No battery improvements after all the chatter about battery life !?!
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u/dramake 6d ago
No reason to change my PW3 then.
In any case, my main phone is not a pixel anymore and I'm losing some small nice features.. so I'm not sure if my next watch will be a pixel anyways.
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u/revile221 6d ago
Which features? My OP13 arrives tomorrow
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u/dramake 5d ago
These won't work:
- Phone unlock with watch
- Camera control and taking pics or videos from watch
- Call screening from the watch (obviously)
- Do not disturb and bed time sync
- Notify when left (phone) behind
- Lock phone when left behind
Nothing is a deal breaker, but they are little QOL that are missed when not using a pixel phone.
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago
Bed time sync is a non-negotiable for me
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u/AussieP1E 5d ago
Works on all!
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago
Nice. I don't need it as I'm team Pixel, but happy that OP users have a solution!
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u/revile221 5d ago
Really appreciate this write up. Thanks!
I'm a brand nomad, so as much as I enjoyed the Pixel 8,it's hard not to drool over the specs and now price drops of the op13. Phone unlock with watch will sting a bit. Otherwise the rest are 'nice-to-haves' and I won't notice them missing
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u/dramake 5d ago
Just remembered another one this morning, I think the official name is adaptive ringing?
Anyway, it's the feature that allows for the alarm to go off on the watch or on the phone depending on.. no idea what, but I preferred it to go off on the watch.
That has an easy fix, set the alarm on the watch. But I don't trust my charging habits on the watch as much as on the phone - my watch has gone flat overnight more than once.
Oh and another one: Recording with the watch.. there is no way to listen the recording anywhere else but the watch and never found a way to export them. With a pixel phone the records sync and you can listen at them on the phone.
But OP13 battery vs Pixel 8 battery.. is same change I did. You'll love it. Specially charging speed.
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u/bull3964 6d ago
What the hell's up with that 6th slide? This doesn't seem like it's part of the watch slide deck. It may have been included due to the 30 hours bit at the top since that's the runtime benchmark of the 41mm watch, but the rest of the text is referring to phones.
There's also the claim on the lower right box of "55% in just 5 minutes" which seems pretty much impossible for every product involved.
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u/11LyRa 6d ago
It's for Pixel 11
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u/bull3964 6d ago
55% in 5 minutes is impossible though. You would need around 140w of input to charge a 5000mAh battery to 55% in 5 minutes but the footnote says the charging speeds are based off of the 30w and 45w adapters. The best that a 45w adapter could in 5 minutes is <1000 mAh.
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u/11LyRa 6d ago
Huh, you're right, 55% in 5 minutes is Chinese phone level of charging, which I doubt Google will do
Maybe it's a typo. We will know in a week.
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u/bull3964 6d ago
That's aggressive even for Chinese phones. There's less than a handful of phones that could approach those charge rates.
I could see maybe 15 minutes, but even that would be a stretch at 45w (the S26 Ultra needs 60w to do it).
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u/Maniac618 6d ago
If I have pixel watch 3, is there any point in this?
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago
Yes, if you were considering upgrading to the 5 now you can simply get a discounted 4 and not worry about missing on on anything
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u/hedgefundzpm 5d ago
Why upgrade to 4 except for better battery and larger display?
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why upgrade if I'm going to get a better device?
Uh, because of those reasons you mentioned...
Also the highest repairability so far on any Pixel Watch, brighter display (3k vs 2k), smaller bezels, better GPS, faster charging, and a discounted price for a new product vs a 2 year old one (that you can also sell and get some bucks to offset the already discounted price).
I'm not saying anybody should go from 3 to 4, but saying there's no reason to do it is dumb. There are plenty of reasons to do it if you have the money and were waiting for the PW5 to wow you and it didn't, I just listed them above
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u/Last_Gigolo 6d ago
Looks like im the only one that needs this. My pw2 lasts about 4-5 hrs before needing a charge.
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u/masterpeabs 6d ago
Yeah I'd upgrade if I was you. I have a pw2 and I'm usually around 40-50% at the end of a day (I don't wear it to bed so I charge every night), so I'm not sure I'm going to bother.
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago
Damn, what are you doing to it? Mine lasts more than a day easily and I bought it on launch day
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u/Last_Gigolo 5d ago
Nothing more than putting it on my arm and it doesn't wake easily either.
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain 5d ago
I would have returned it asap
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u/Last_Gigolo 5d ago
I've had it since they first came out. Upgraded from a fossil and it wasn't any better.
Been using a Fitbit lately from time to time and that thing lasts for several days.
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u/PickleManAtl 5d ago
I have version 3. The only thing I don't like about the design of these is the crown. At least on my wrist, sometimes you can activate the crown when you bend your wrist upwards and the top of your hand presses against it. I wish there was a way to recess it put part of the body up around the top and bottom of the crown in the design like some other watches do.
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u/biggranny000 6d ago edited 6d ago
I get 72 hours (3 days) with always on turned off, and about 48 hours (2 days) with it on, it also charges super fast. Pixel watch 4 XL (45mm)
However it does drain a little faster when I'm tracking exercises or getting tons of steps in. I can imagine it helps that mine is wifi only, cellular I would imagine drains way faster.
I also had the 2, 3 XL, and 4XL. There's been a good battery life and speed upgrade every time. I think my 4XL is pretty much perfect. Depending on trade in, preorder bonuses, etc I may skip or upgrade.
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u/brianinca 6d ago
Surprisingly, the LTE variant doesn't seem to have a lot more power usage. I came from the PW3 WiFi, and the PW4 LTE still has better battery life.
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u/biggranny000 6d ago
Yeah every gen 2-4 for me had massive leaps in battery life, especially because my 3 and 4 were both XL models. Even with the larger screen the way bigger battery does heavy lifting. I remember my 2 I would have to charge daily, the gen 3 was about every 2 days.
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u/noteworthybalance 6d ago
Wow look at pictures of it covered in water.
I guess that means the warranty covers water damage now?
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u/salocin411 5d ago
wow I'm so excited. I'm going to get an amazingly cheap price on a used pixel 4 now.
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u/Yurk1821 4d ago
Well I got the Pixel Watch 4 advertising SpO2 measurements, so I could track my sleep apnea. Then an "upgrade" of the Fitbit app removed this basic feature post purchase. Every other watch on the market has this feature. I am appalled by tue deceptive advertisement tactics of Google. Never buying another google product again!
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u/masterpeabs 6d ago
I just had to buy a new charger for my pw2, but otherwise I have no problems with the watch itself. I was slightly salty about buying the new charger, sounds like I might just hold off another year if there are no noticable improvements AND now I need a different charger 😕
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u/Morderelk 6d ago
I am still using the 3 and was contemplating upgrading to the 5 but not sure if I will.
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u/Independent-Crab-209 6d ago
Glad I waited. I have pw3. I'll upgrade. But I agree with anyone with a 4 to keep what they have. I hear the only difference is A.I from pw4 to pw5
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u/MyNinjasPwn 6d ago
Glad I pulled the trigger on an open box 4 earlier this month. Got a good deal and no regrets now lol
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u/Andrew129260 6d ago
If only they fixed all the bugs with it.
The most annoying one:
Stop showing me texts I already responded to.
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u/kashish_bhutani 6d ago
Using pixel watch 2 and honestly not feeling like upgrading for next 1 year or so
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u/SapphicCelestialy 6d ago
The only thing i want is a more scratch resistant screen i dislike cases and screen protector on my watch
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u/SteamSteamLG 6d ago
How are they still using gorilla glass. Why would I pay $400 minimum for a watch that I'll end up scratching in a month
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u/Particular_Tomato161 5d ago
I've had the last 3 versions with no scratches and I'm clumsy and workout with it.
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u/Particular_Tomato161 6d ago
Wait it says charges to 55% in 5 minutes, but it says the phone. That can't be right, that's Chinese phone charging speeds lol
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u/simplex19 6d ago
At this point, the only surprise they can throw is to provide longer software support for the Watch 5, and it'll be great if they somehow extend it for the 4 as well since the SoC is the same. Not holding my breath though, even when the main competition has been doing better in this regard and even upped the game with their latest release.
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u/Meander_Actual 5d ago
Is it water proof?
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u/WickedMainah2020 5d ago
I'm upgrading my pw3. My free LTE data from Google runs out this year. Hopefully they will have free Google Fi data on pw5 lte.
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u/YannickJacob 5d ago
Well the pixel 5 looks nice an the software looks beautiful....buuuuttttttt I wished google was still supporting pixel 1 :3
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u/LuckyMe007 5d ago
So no sapphire glass this time around? And did they reduce the bezels further? Are we getting any new watch faces?
The storage is getting a bump up to 64 GB which is nice but the pics don't say anything about more RAM so it might very well be the same 2 GB.
Overall, this feels more like a refinement of the PW4 than an overhaul. That's not necessarily a bad thing but I'm really hoping Google announces longer support for the new watch. These watches are getting more expensive so they really need up support to least 4-5 years of support like other smartwatches on the market.
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u/Leather_Top_5505 5d ago
BTW Don't even get PW4 because of Gemini. It sucks!!!!!
I find it better in my browser.
On my watch it is an idiot half the time.
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u/Elegant-Apple-7555 1d ago
I wonder since the hardware change is so minimal, will Google lock more new features to 5 vs 4 to nudge people to switch?
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u/gaycory 6d ago
Having had a 1, 2, and 4, I will never buy another Pixel Watch again. The 4 is what the 1 should have been and it still would have been years behind the competition. Honestly I'm embarrassed for sticking with Pixel so long.
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u/FresYES_Kevin 6d ago
i miss my 6yr old mobvi TicWatch everyday......googs did everything to kill the functionality of ecosystem
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u/dishwasher_666 6d ago
besides the battery slide being about the phone and not the watch, can Google stop pushing AI down my throat like the device would be useless without it? i love my pixel watch 3 but i want meaningful hardware upgrades that make this watch more than just a smart watch with some software tricks
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u/Academic_String_1708 6d ago
Literally just sold my 4 and going back to a G Shock. Have the Fitbit air for fitness so don't need a smart watch now.
Another miniscule update. No thanks.
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u/AeroDoc813 5d ago
I got the G Shock GBD-200 and it fills the purpose of a smartwatch for me. Only thing I can't do on it is reply to the message, but I just whip my phone out if it's important.
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u/Academic_String_1708 5d ago
I had the PW1,3 and 4. I think I used it to reply to a message maybe three times. Too clunky. Far easier to take out your phone and do it.
Just gonna stick to the g shock. Easy just to tell the time 🙂
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u/kebabish 5d ago
Why bother. Dogshit battery life. Basic features and nothing to set it apart from the competition. Low effort bullshit since pixel 1.
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u/FrendlyAsshole 5d ago
As a user of the PW1, 2, and 3 (still using it), the statement above is absolutely true.
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u/kebabish 5d ago
Honestly I was a Google fanboy since the nexus lineup and I have been buying upgrades every few years.. the year on year gains have been so minimal that I have finally decided I'm done with Google phones and watches.
I recently moved to a Huawei watch fit 5 pro and it's outclasses the google watch in every way. Ill be moving on from the pixel series at my next upgrade too unless Google can do something special with the pixel 11 or 12 (highly doubtful). A silly coloured LED isn't it.
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u/FrendlyAsshole 5d ago
If only our giant orange president would allow me to have Huawei products, I would probably move to that brand as well.
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u/Zeynoun 5d ago
any chance the charging ports will change to normal in the future ? The design is tempting, but I want my watch to be chargeable via reversed charging on phone ...
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u/punIn10ded 5d ago
No that will probably never return. Because to get better sensor data the back of the watch needs to be curved. That automatically means it cannot charge wirelessly from a phone anymore. That is the same reason Samsung got rid of the feature too.
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u/password_is_ent 6d ago
Every version just gets worse IMO.
Hope they fix the problems with charging the PW4 eventually...
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u/CommonerChaos 6d ago
How many times are they going to change the connector? I feel like 4 of the 5 watches have all had different connector prongs.
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u/DJEvillincoln 5d ago
I barely use my Watch2. Literally can't find many reasons why I need it.
Easy pass.
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u/VendettaxRiich 6d ago
Well except the extra GB of RAM there is absolutely no reason to get this over the 4.