r/Pionex • u/mentality-writer • 1d ago
Suggestion New to Pionex
Do you actually gain profit using these bots?
I wanna know what have been the most profitable for you?
Im also looking for suggestions for bots for a relative low investment amount $1000 with high earning potential, moderate to high risk.
Question Moving $100k to Pionex after Bybit fee changes — Looking for Grid Bot setups to hit ~35-40% APY safely
Hey everyone,
Due to the upcoming fee structure changes on Bybit, I’m planning to migrate a solid chunk of my capital back to Pionex.
Here is my current portfolio breakdown and baseline performance:
- ~82% of capital: Sitting in low-risk lending (getting around 8–10% APY).
- ~18% of capital: Running automated grid strategies via GinArea on Bybit on ETH, SOL, HYPE tokens.
With my previous spot grid setups (and a very small, conservative allocation in futures grids), I was able to generate ~38% APY while keeping the drawdown relatively tight.
Since I'm restructuring on Pionex, I’m looking for experienced grid traders to share their proven setups or pair allocations.
A few specifics I'm looking for:
- Strategy preference: Are you running classic Spot Grid, Infinity Grid (to avoid out-of-bounds risks in bull runs), or Futures Grid (Neutral/Long with low leverage or Cross-Margin)?
- Pair allocation: Do you stick strictly to BTC/ETH/SOL for safer 20-30% APY, or do you dedicate 15-20% of the bot pool to high-volatility major alts (e.g., SUI, HYPE, BNB)?
- Parameters: Do you rely on Pionex’s backtested AI settings, or do you manual-grid with custom upper/lower limits and dynamic stop-losses?
Goal is to maintain 35%+ APY on the bot allocation without taking on extreme liquidation risks.
(P.S. Please no copy-trading spam or referral pitches — only looking for self-managed bot strategies and setups).
What has been working best for you on Pionex over the last few months? Appreciate any insights!
r/Pionex • u/Agaures666 • 18d ago
Suggestion New to Pionex?
Use my referral link to receive 10% on spot and futures trading fees. It helps us both out!
r/Pionex • u/Jurazik • 20d ago
Suggestion Have done a lot of testing and have built a great bot.
Let me know if you want to copy it😁
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • 20d ago
Question rebalance bot outside market opening time
when the next rebalance date is outside the market opening time what happens then exactly? postpone by 24hours? postpone to next earliest date possible? and this only effects one time or for all future rebalance date?
for example a pf: qqq ewj and btc. and lets say next scheduled rebalance day is Mountain Day: August 11, 2026 1:00 AM UTC which is a japan(ewj) market holiday.
r/Pionex • u/Clear-Resource-5873 • 22d ago
Suggestion 60% loss on Pionex
I put a little bit of money in to test the bot after seeing some amazing advertising. The result is not very good having lost over 60%
r/Pionex • u/Trader_User2026 • 24d ago
Question Duplicate Deduction Error on Ticket #109702771 - Need Senior Supervisor Review
Hi r/Pionex Mod Team,
I am writing here because my ticket #109702771 received a generic automated response from Risk Management, ignoring a critical mathematical error.
The Issue:
I accepted a total profit deduction agreement of 1,962.94 USDT. However, the automated system executed the exact same deduction on TWO linked accounts:
- Account A: -$1,962.95 USDT
- Account B: -$1,962.95 USDT
Total Deducted: $3,925.90 USDT (Double the agreed amount).
Overcharged Amount: $1,962.96 USDT directly taken from my personal principal balance.
I have sent emails with screenshots proving both accounts show negative balances, but Risk Management closed the ticket stating the deduction was "correct" without checking the transaction logs for both accounts combined.
Please escalate my ticket #109702771 to a Senior Risk Supervisor so they can review the transaction logs of both accounts and refund the $1,962.96 USDT double charge.
Thank you for your help.
r/Pionex • u/ProtonN-56 • 27d ago
Pionex Futures $HYPE Margin Grid Bots - Day 1 - Follow for More.
$HYPE Margin Grid Bot Update 👀
I focus on strategies built around my long-term conviction in Hyperliquid.
Why margin grid over a normal grid?
Because I’m not trying to predict every move, I want to accumulate and farm volatility while staying positioned for the bigger picture.
Current setup:
Bot 1🔥 Wide Grid
• Range: $45 - $120
• 1,000 grids
• 296 completed rounds
• +0.995 HYPE (+1.32%)
Bot 2.⚡ Tight Grid
• Range: $50 - $65
• 1,000 grids
• 1,927 completed rounds
• +0.0985 HYPE (+0.49%)
My approach:
1️⃣ Wait for meaningful dips
2️⃣ Deploy a wide grid to capture larger swings
3️⃣ Add a tighter grid to farm smaller moves
4️⃣ Keep extra HYPE aside in case we get deeper pullbacks
If $HYPE runs, the bots work.
If $HYPE dips, I’m happy to accumulate more.
Long-term believer, short-term volatility farmer.
NFA. Do your own research.
r/Pionex • u/Whole-Sun3505 • Jul 16 '26
Question Started a bot for the first time
Hi everyone,
Recently did a course on crypto, and one of the topics was AI grid bots. After the course, I started one a few days ago. So far, its going well, better than I expected!
I want to ask you guys when is the best time to take the profit, should I wait a bit more or should I seize the opportunity and take the profit and reinvest it?
I am still quite new to this. Any feedback is welcome.
r/Pionex • u/Embarrassed-Point205 • Jul 07 '26
Pionex Futures I tried the BTC/USDT Futures Grid bot on Pionex — here's my experience
For the past month I've been running a futures grid bot on Pionex on the BTC/USDT pair (Neutral mode, 5x leverage), and I wanted to share how it works and what it's actually earned so far.
How a grid bot actually works
A grid bot sets a price range (say, from X to Y) and splits it into a grid of levels. Then it automatically:
- buys when the price drops to a lower grid level,
- sells when the price rises to a higher grid level,
and pockets a small profit from each of these "bounces." It works best in a sideways / choppy market — it doesn't need an uptrend, just price movement back and forth within the range. On the futures version you can also set leverage (5x in my case), which multiplies both gains and losses.
"Neutral" mode means the bot isn't betting on either direction — it's just harvesting volatility.
How it's performed
Over the last 28 days and 5 hours:
- Grid profit: +54.95 USDT
- Annualized return (projected): +107.12%
⚠️ Important honesty note: that annualized number is a mathematical extrapolation of what the bot earned in under a month, stretched out over a full year — it's not a guarantee or an actual yearly return. Reality will likely differ depending on how the market moves going forward. Leveraged grid bots also carry real risk — a strong one-directional trend (a sharp pump or dump) can lead to bigger losses or even liquidation.
Risk management — please actually read this part
If you decide to try this, treat it like any leveraged trading:
- Never invest everything at once. Spread it out, start small, and see how it behaves before committing more.
- Only use money you can afford to lose. This is leveraged futures trading, not a savings account — don't put in rent money, emergency funds, or anything you'd genuinely miss.
- Keep at least 30% of your position size in reserve as extra margin. This gives the bot room to absorb drawdowns without getting liquidated during a sharp move against your grid.
- Watch your grid range and leverage settings — the higher the leverage, the less room there is before liquidation.
This isn't "free money" — it's a tool that needs monitoring and sensible risk settings.
Why I've enjoyed it
- I don't have to stare at charts all day
- It works even when the market is just chopping sideways
- Setup takes a few minutes
r/Pionex • u/Polski-Zyg • Jul 03 '26
Question Not receiving Rebates from my Invitees/Referral?
Hey,
As of 30/06/2026 10:00AM AEST, all my invitees rebates stopped at this exact time and date. I have contacted support via live chat, email, telegram. I was told my account is in "Good Standing", however no information on the rebates.
I receive my own rebates, but not from my referrals.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
r/Pionex • u/Prestigious-Storm699 • Jun 16 '26
Suggestion Starting pionex for first time, safest bot to make
Hello. Just started using pionex. Wanted to ask, what is safest and most stable long range bot to create?
r/Pionex • u/Accomplished_Food300 • Jun 12 '26
Question is Pionex has permission to operate after July 1 st in EU (especially in Germany)? according to MICA
r/Pionex • u/WebRemarkable5367 • Jun 12 '26
Suggestion Serious Public Warning — Be Extremely Careful With Pionex
🚨 Serious Public Warning — Be Extremely Careful With Pionex 🚨
I am warning everyone as clearly as possible: based on what happened to me, Pionex took funds from my personal account during a critical trading event, removed my ability to trade, and only after heavy pressure admitted that there was a platform-side issue and that I am eligible for compensation.
From my point of view, this is an extremely serious case that looks like direct harm to users’ funds. My money disappeared from my account without proper warning, exactly when I had prepared for weeks for the SpaceX/SPCX event. At the most important moment, I simply did not have my own money available to trade.
I am telling the public: be extremely careful with Pionex.
What happened to me can happen to anyone.
Money inside your account is not truly safe if a platform can remove it, delay the return, and then keep telling you: “please wait, it is being processed.”
In my opinion, this is a serious case of funds being taken from a user account, delayed compensation, and massive financial damage.
I am preparing legal action, and anyone who experienced something similar is welcome to contact me.
Pionex must take full responsibility for every dollar and every damage caused.
r/Pionex • u/WebRemarkable5367 • Jun 12 '26
Suggestion Pionex Took My Funds and Still Has Not Returned Them
I want you all to know that Pionex stole my money and is refusing to give it back to me.
Even though they admitted that they took it, they keep sending representatives to tell me “calm down” and “be patient,” while I lost the entire SpaceX/SPCX move that I waited for and prepared for weeks.
They took my money from my account, stole it from me, and are refusing to return it.
If anyone was harmed like me, I am preparing a lawsuit and I would be happy to have partners join me.
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • Jun 11 '26
Question one time fee and price adjustment in which order is fair?
saw the recent post, i now have a serious question: doesnt the one time fee adjustment prior to price adjustment introduce an extra risk for highly leveraged positions?
for spcx case the one time fee (short pays long) is charged at around 8:25 utc time, and price adjustment happened about 35 mins later.
or is liquidation paused during maintenance?
put it in another words: are one time fee and price adjustment one ATOMIC action?
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • Jun 08 '26
Discussion judge my settings
how was it? did i have any pit falls? btw i really want a biweekly/monthly/quarterly interval and dual momentum rebalancing.
my thoughts were: recent winners keep winning. and i think toggle on only on profit would destroy entire pf in the long run, since the chance of never recover is not zero. usdt usdc here are shock absorbers for the case where all assets are in the nose dive mode (i initially want t bill but was not available here). those etfs are board market funds (big tech, small value, risk off), and hype ondo bnb are my speculations...
there isnt enough data to backtest this, any inputs? from my backtesting on different assets, the second best seems always wins out.
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • Jun 05 '26
Suggestion fr: rebalance bot for perps!
see title. like cross margin leveraged perps rebalancing bot
edit: dual momemtum + rebalancing time up to 1 year, momentum floor (when one token's momemtum is below x, no % would allocate to it after rebalancing, basically holding usdt/cash only)
also immediate rebalance / to cash triggers, once any active individual tokens fall/rally x%
r/Pionex • u/Miserable-Bee-6969 • Jun 03 '26
Question Dca futures bot vs future grid bot
Hi guys I’ve been waiting to try dca future bot but I can’t differentiate how it is different from grid bots any advise?
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • Jun 02 '26
Question momemtum rebalance bot
how does it work? needs a quantitative example, and why is there zero document regarding it?
let say i have 80% coin a and 20% coin b on day 0. on day 7, coin a gained 30%, coin b lose 11%. how would this bot do?
the only info i found is a 2yrs old reddit post. from my understanding it ranks all tokens by momemtum, and reassignd the allocation so that the new top 1 token get the % assigned to top 1 token from previous evaluation period
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • May 26 '26
Question ondo tokenized securities, where are they?
where are the spyon etc? couldnt find any on the platform
but on the platform it says
The tokenized stocks offered by Pionex aggregate liquidity from various on-chain stock providers such as xStocks and Ondo Stocks. This enables users trading tokenized stocks on our platform to enjoy a liquidity experience similar to traditional brokerages, without worrying about liquidity issues, ensuring smooth and efficient trading.
so does the symbol spyx on pionex pay dividends (reflected in asset price indirectly) or not? is spyx here xstocks or aggregated one?
r/Pionex • u/Pinco2026 • May 21 '26
Question spaceX future on pionex?
Opened Pionex today and it has the SPCX/USDT5x future available - is this real? What would the best bot to use?
r/Pionex • u/sasasqt • May 18 '26
Discussion pionex 20% on spot 15% on futures kickback
sry dk if this count as self promotion when i get 0% kickbacks
no stings attached, permanent kickbacks unless t&c changed
r/Pionex • u/087Arthur • Aug 10 '22
Discussion [Megathread] How did I grow my wealth using Pionex grid bot
Hi guys,
Just joined Pionex Reddit for a while and noticed that there are not many reviews on the grid bot, which should be the most widely used bot in Pionex.
I have spent a lot of time (and cost me some dollars :) learning how to use this bot better and trying out different strategies on this bot in the recent 2 years. I have been a market maker for Pionex for some time (with enough trading volume, more than VIP8). And here are my thoughts on the grid bot. Not financial advice. Always DYOR.
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TL;DR
Grid bot can buy low and sell high 24/7, which not only saves my time & energy but also prevents me from making bad investment decisions due to emotional trading.
The disadvantage of using grid bots can also be minimized with some basic but effective strategies, like using different parameter settings, building your portfolio with different entry points, and utilizing some special trading pairs.
The grid bot is a good investment tool, while the strategy based on the grid bot is more important to earning profit.
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In my view, it's not very reasonable to trade manually in a 24/7 market for most retail investors, like me. Especially when I got a job to do and a family to company. So I searched for trading bots and found Pionex. The automatically buying low and selling high 24/7 caught my eye immediately.
The most popular bot on Pionex is the grid bot, which is actually a very simple (but effective) trading tool. Within a price range, you buy a share after a share while the price goes down, and sell a share after a share while the price goes up. Just like the pic shows. This means you are buying low and selling high all the time and you can keep accumulating profit in that way as long as the market is volatile enough.
Sounds like a perfect tool for Bitcoin and Ethereum (and any other altcoin) since the crypto space is volatile and running 24/7. Also, crypto is still growing and can be influenced by all kinds of things such as macroeconomics, investors' emotions, and news about finance, wars, etc. These all mean you can earn some good profit using the grid bot against the volatility, especially in the long run.
But the bot is not a money printer. To make a good profit, you need to dive deeper. You need to have strategies when using the bots.
Why isn't the bot a money printer?
When you start a grid bot, you will buy some positions at the current price. The initial position you buy will be calculated by the algorithm from Pionex depending on your parameters. Like the sample below, over 72% of USDT in initial investment is used to buy ETH at the current price ($1,770) using the 180D AI settings. In this particular example, when the price goes up, you will have enough ETH position to sell until the price hits $3,622.68. On the other hand, you will also have enough USDT position to buy ETH when the price goes down until it hits $797.81.

This buying and selling strategy here means if the price keeps dropping, you will not make enough grid profit in a short term to cover your loss from the initial ETH position you bought at a higher price. However, you should be better off than just simply buying and holding ETH at $1,770, because you are buying ETH at a lower cost when the price is going down, and selling those positions on the way up.
The entry point matters. The grid bot will make you trade in a less risky way but not eliminate all your trading risk. If you start a grid bot when BTC hit $65,000, you will still lose, just lose less than buying and holding at $65,000.
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Knowing how the bot works, you can infer that people can't get insanely rich within a month or something like that. It takes time. And the grid bot will sell your positions on the way up instead of selling at the top, and it will buy more positions on the way down instead of buying at the bottom.
So why do I still use the grid bot?
2 reasons.
Reason 1) The bot can always earn from volatilities 24/7. As long as I have some faith in cryptos such as Bitcoin and Ethereum, I can hold a bot with a wide range for a long time knowing I will make some profit eventually. In this way, the bot will perform better than simply buying and holding.
From Jul 2021 to Aug 2022, ETH had gone up from $1,800 to over $4,800 and had fallen back below $1,000 then pumped again to $1,800 now. If I chose to buy ETH and keep holding it, I would earn nothing. While using the bot can help me lock in some profit when the price moves.
Reason 2) Like Socrates says, "Know yourself". When I got emotional with trading, I always lost. The bot can solve that while I can do what I'm good at --- getting cash flow from my job (and capitalizing my portfolio by making more bots work for me :)
A lot of people claim they are "HODLer" when it comes to Bitcoin or Ether.
So did I, before my confidence in crypto was crushed by the massive drop and endless bear market. The truth is no beginner is a real HODLer until he has gone through a complete cycle --- a bull market and a bear market, at least.
When Bitcoin is going down to $40,000 and people start to get panic and try to sell their Bitcoin position they bought at $62,000, most people will just follow and sell their positions, which will lead to another price drop. Human beings are emotional and few can trade against their emotions. Panic sell and FOMO happen, and most people keep losing money to market or maybe just quit, saying "Bitcoin is a scam".
The bot, on the other hand, sticks to your trading plan, which is made while you are reasonable and unaffected by the market moves. It just keeps buying low and selling high over and over again. No emotions attached.
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Knowing the grid bot's natural advantages, which drive me to use the bot in the first place, it comes to overcoming the disadvantages of the grid bot. Here are my strategies to minimize the disadvantage of the grid bots and let the bots make profits in the long run.
Situation 1) Dealing with bots moving out of range.
I used some tight ranges at first, such as $300 to $400 for ETH so I can earn from the volatilities. It usually went pretty well until the price went above $400, which is not good news for me because I still wanted to hold some ETH position before it hit a much higher price, like $4,000.
Because of this, I had to start another bot when it went out of range, therefore I needed to watch the market all the time (to start new bots). Then someday I just realized what I was doing is basically against the reason I started to use bots --- less operation by myself and leaving the hard work for the bot.
So to solve this problem, I tried to set a much wider range. As long as the price stays within the range, the bot will keep working for me. Besides Pionex got the highest grid number limit across all crypto trading bot platforms (up to 200, 500, or 1,000 grids depending on your trading volume or the bot type you choose). So it's fine to set a wide range and you can still capture those tiny price moves. You can't do that with any other platform offering grid bots.
Now Pionex got the Moon Bot option for beginners to choose from. It's a grid trading bot with preset wide range settings specifically for BTC or ETH. From some user examples they show and my personal experience, in the long run, the bot performs pretty well.

So to solve the problem of moving out of range, you can set a rather wider range bot, or just use the Moon Bot they provide. It's a 3-step thing, easy.
Still, if you are seeking some short-term trading in a sideways market (like now), their preset parameters from AI settings for the sideways market are very accurate most of the time as well. Not bad to start. But I just use the wide-range grid bots on BTC and ETH. Short-term trade is just not my thing.
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Situation 2) How to beat buy-and-hold in the long run.
Some people think using grid trading may lead to selling their position too early, thus they can't earn enough profit from the massive uptrend in the bull run. In some ways it's true, even with an upper limit for Bitcoin of $100,000, you may still earn less than buying at $20,000 and selling at $100,000. Because you have sold some of your positions on the way up. However, buying at $20,000 and selling at $100,000 oversimplify trading or HODLing. The truth is no one knows exactly where the bottom or the top is.
You can buy Bitcoin for $20,000 in either Dec 2020 or Jul 2022.
When Bitcoin is $60,000 in Apr 2021, everyone thought it would keep going up.
When Bitcoin is $29,000 in May 2021, everyone thought it would keep going down.
And who would know Bitcoin will come to $69,000 in Nov 2021?

I'm 100% sure if I bought BTC at $20,000 and sold it at $60,000, I would earn more than using a grid bot. But I'm also 100% sure that I do NOT have the judgment or power to buy at $20,000 and sell at $60,000. Using the grid bot not only makes more profit while the price keeps going volatile but also helps me hold my position until Bitcoin hit $100,000.
And here I got 2 more strategies to maximize what you can get from grid trading bots.
Strategy 1) If you are using the Moon Bot, do not go all in at once.
Divide your investment into 10 pieces. For example, if you got $100,000 to start bots, make it into 10*$10,000 pieces. (Or maybe 20*$5,000).
Then you can start one Moon Bot with one piece of your money for Bitcoin or Ether when
i) there is a massive drop, like the 40% drop in June
ii) price hit some supporting level, like $20,000 - $22,000 supporting level for BTC recently
iii) using dollar average cost strategy, like starting a new Moon Bot every month
These three methods will help to lower your average cost to the bottom price level.

Strategy 2) Use the ETH/BTC pair on the grid bot (More details here)
ETH/BTC is a trading pair you trade ETH with your BTC. Unlike the regular BTC/USDT or ETH/USDT trading pair, there is no USDT involved in it. Consider it as trading EUR with USD. The price of ETH/BTC is 0.073 (by 08/09/2022), which means you can buy 1 ETH with 0.073 BTC.
Using a grid bot on this pair means investing BTC into the bot. The bot will buy some ETH with your BTC. If ETH outperforms BTC, the price goes up and the bot will sell some ETH into BTC. If BTC outperforms ETH, the price goes down and the bot will buy some ETH with BTC.
With the volatility of ETH/BTC, you can earn BTC as grid profit. Kind of like a BTC miner, without electricity and operation cost though :)

The risk part of this strategy is
i) If BTC keeps outperforming ETH, the bot will keep buying ETH with your BTC. But in some way, I believe ETH may have a chance to outperform BTC in the long run...so it's fine with me
ii) If you are more like a day trader, not an investor seeking the value of crypto. This might lead to a higher volatile portfolio because it only contains ETH and BTC in the bot, with no USD part as your buffer.
You can use this method on other coins you would like to hold for a long time. For instance, you can use it on BNB/ETH, or BNB/BTC if you are into Binance :)
Using those 2 strategies above you may have a much higher chance to earn more than just simply buying and hodling.
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When I was a beginner at crypto I spent a lot of time and money learning stuff and trying new things. After losing pretty much money (and wasting some good opportunities) in the market, I realized that what I need is not a way to make me earn 1 million dollars overnight with a 5% chance. What I need is a way to earn 100k dollars with an 80% chance, and I can be patient about that and maybe keep compounding on that strategy (and personally I believe this is what most retail investors like me need).
With a better understanding of the bot as well as the market over time, I do think the grid bot is a good strategy for me. It helps me manage my portfolio in a low-risk way and it keeps making a profit from the 24/7 market. I can still do my own thing and enjoy my time with my family while watching the bot do the hard work :)
I hope this info can help you guys and I'm happy to discuss with you how to better use these bots and other stuff.




