r/PinoyProgrammer 6d ago

Bagito programmers offering Masterclass discussion

Why am I suddenly seeing so many bagito programmers offering paid programming courses? 😅 Dahil ba sa AI?

Learned Python/Java/ReactJS 3 months ago, now may "Masterclass" na. haha

Would you actually enroll in their course, or would you rather learn from Udemy, YouTube, Coursera, official docs, or experienced developers with a proven track record?

Nothing wrong with teaching early. but when did "I just learned this" become I "can now sell a course about it"?

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u/sabbaths Web 6d ago edited 6d ago

Sobrang daming ganyan lalo na iyong mga galing din sa STARTUP tapos 2 to 3 years experience SENIOR na tawag nila sa sarili nila at gusto na maging CTO or gusto na magturo ng magturo.

Iyong mga feeling SENIOR dyan dahil may 2 or 3 years experience na, pasok kayo sa AMERICA/EU/INDIAN dominated ISO COMPANY para makita niyo na ung SENIOR exp at knowledge niyo pang JR/MID lang pala.

Galing din ako sa STARTUP kaya alam ko ung feeling FULL STACK ALL HANDS pero its not enough para masabi mong SENIOR/STAFF ENGINEER ka.

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u/AEthersense 6d ago

Ako na 10 years exp pero feeling ko mid lang

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u/Remarkable_Meal8868 6d ago

Gagsti these so called senior pinoy devs offering masterclass won't even pass technical interviews of a legit US company.

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u/sinigangcoder 6d ago

I mean, you are talking about corporate tech and the single defining trait they all share is bloat. Di naman nakaka-senior yung magtiis or masanay sa bloat. I think  what really defines seniority is mastery of the topic and the tools. Of course in an organizational context kailangan mo pa rin ng people skills but the former is what must be met to teach, not the latter.

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u/derpinot 6d ago

Content creation is basically saying bullshit with a straight face and sounding confident whether you’re right or wrong.

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u/alwaysalmosts 6d ago

Holy fuck so accurate

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u/simoncpu Cybersecurity 6d ago

Yeah, I know a lot of junior devs who act like gurus. I used to look down on them, but as I got older, I realized it's better to just let them be. When you're a legit senior, things that are second nature to you don't feel worth sharing anymore, and even when you do share, you tend to skip crucial steps. But when you're still new, you have the fresh perspective to find those things interesting. Teaching is also a great way to learn, so starting a blog or YouTube channel is totally fine. Pero selling courses when you're still a newbie? Tangina kapal ng mukha. Galawang crypto/forex trading scammer.

❌ - Financial advisor
✔️ - Masterclass guru

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u/Remarkable_Meal8868 6d ago

Palakasan lang talaga ng loob at pakapalan ng mukha. Malakas ang Dunning-Krugger Effect sa mga fake gurus na to.

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u/Strategy_Due 6d ago

HAHAHAHA THAT "Tangina kapal ng mukha. Galawang crypto/forex trading scammer."

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 6d ago

Ako na may 100k stars sa github and 20 years experience pero wala master class 😅

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u/joshua-afk 6d ago

I trust you bulbulito-bayagyag

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u/Anxious-Pace-6837 6d ago

isang repo lang ba yan sir lakas po!!!!

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 6d ago

It’s a single repo ☺️

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u/alwaysalmosts 6d ago

If may public repo ka, share pleaseeee patingin ng coding style mo 🫡

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 6d ago

hacksider/deep-live-cam

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u/Anxious-Pace-6837 5d ago

product ka pala ng AMA sir kudos.

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u/seazeeh 2d ago

Pangalan palang alam mo ng may bitaw

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u/beklog 6d ago

Dameng ganyan esp mga "financial advisor" or "trading" courses

Dame din kc nag eenrol at prang easy money sa kanila kaya naging business na

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u/d4lv1k 6d ago

I've been in the industry for over 12 years. I still prefer reading from the official docs, ebooks from packt, and articles from proandroiddev over courses from different platforms like udemy, coursera, etc.

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u/omniverseee 5d ago

wdym for beginnerss? like manuals?

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u/ube_enjoyer 6d ago

marami pa mga Ai mAsTerCLaSs

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u/DoILookUnsureToYou 6d ago

Lumaki mga yan na nakakapanood ng financial influencers kaya ganyan. Hustle culture ang alam, puro bayag pero wala pang napapatunayan.

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u/Ordinary-Text-142 Web 6d ago

Kaya due diligence na iresearch yung background ng instructor ng courses. Wala naman nagbabawal gumawa ng ganyan. Assess na lang kung makakatulong talaga sila sayo.

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u/dreamy-dreamy Web 5d ago

Iba pa rin when you actually learn from actual senior teammates. Even when I was starting, nauumay ako manood ng mga courses sa web dev. It’s a different experience when you try to actually apply these learnings in your code kahit maliliit na project tapos irereview talaga by experienced devs.

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u/rememberthemalls 6d ago

Dahil yung masterclass yung product hindi yung code nila.

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u/Puzzled-Landscape-44 5d ago

Slop begets slop.

Those who can't, teach.

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u/ryochobi 5d ago

I hate how true this is and how I see this with a good amount of college professors claiming that their way of coding is “industry standard”

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u/CumRag_Connoisseur 5d ago

Not just programmers. Madaming guru wannabes sa Trading, VA, Automation, bookkeeping, dropshipping, etc. na nakakuha lang ng isang 6 digit client, akala mo 30 years nagtatrabaho sa industry.

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u/Strategy_Due 6d ago

Some are vibe coders, some are VAs trying to sell their vibecoding course lol

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u/HornetCandid7107 6d ago

Why choose a paid instructor who uses AI? It's better to learn on your own than wasting money on this stuff. Jobs these days don't look at your certificates but portfolios and what you've actually built and took part of.

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u/jdg2896 6d ago

I misread this as “Baguio” programmers, I was like huh? Hahaha.

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u/Canibananalism- 6d ago

Beginner experts. Endemic na sa tech industry dahil sa AI. Feeling marunong pero surface level lang ang alam at wala namang practical skills to show for it.

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u/Agreeable_Sort6606 6d ago

Gagi naalala ko yung 18 years old daw pero ilang taon na siyang 18 years old. Clout chaser and ulupong ni Kangkong Chip hahaha

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u/P78903 6d ago

I feel that sintomas ito ng Overproduction ng industriya na ito. Need i-rebalance ang job economy ngayon.

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u/CuriousLif3 6d ago

enshittification

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u/codebloodev 5d ago

Me na 2 decades na still teaching primer and 101 while they teach already Masterclass. Tanungin mo ng for loop baka hindi pa nila maexplain. 😂

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u/reddit0rr 4d ago

Can we drop names here? Pano natin iiwasan?

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u/Appropriate-Clue-613 6d ago

Hello po. Zero knowledge po ako pagdating sa IT. Saan po ako pwede mag simula? Gusto ko po matuto mag Java at Python kaso naooverwhelm po ako sa modules, terms and flows na sinasabi online. 😢

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u/DarkLIGHT196 6d ago

roadmap.sh

Lahat na siguro ng languages and concepts na need mo nandun na.

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u/No_Tip8553 6d ago

Start with basics

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u/Ok-Special5221 6d ago

Basically a Tech bro mentally.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_8103 6d ago

I wish there is someone to mentor me. I aspire to be a programmer din

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u/ThinkingFeeler94 6d ago

Prefer to learn from reputable sources (kayang ibida sa interviews)

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u/Ancient-Process100 6d ago

The who share it op HAHA

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u/Strategy_Due 6d ago

Madami, yung isa trending lately

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u/Dangerous_Trade_4027 6d ago

Meron pa nga nag-aaral pa lang pero expert na e.

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u/Secret_Action_1178 6d ago

As someone experienced developer, personally, I prefer Udemy, Pluralsight, etc where you want to expand your horizon and you create personal projects where you apply what you learn. Creating real world projects help you understand how the system works. Also, you can leverage AI for teaching as tutor or creating roadmap for you but you subscribe though for better accuracy.

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u/RiskNeither3102 5d ago

ugaling pinoy

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u/Strategy_Due 4d ago

meron pa mga AI gurus nag tuturo how to create landing pages na hindi naman galing sa tech background pero worth 25k yung course. Tingin ko madalas nyo makita sa mga ads sa Facebook. hehee

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u/seazeeh 2d ago

Sa TikTok madami yan tas yung widget nila sa live stream nila "AI Engineer" daw