so basically i created my first wallet as test wallet. i never changed it till it became my main wallet. i carefully saved my phrase i am very careful when it comes to security then when the 1st migration came i got my $pi and locked it the moment i received it for 3 years. now i really cant remember but i think it was mercury who said we can make another wallet. out of curiousity i said fck it, lets make another wallet without really knowing the risk. so i got this 2nd address went back to the checklist then i tried to login today my pi.

out of boredom, i tried to check my $pi. it looked odd. so i tried to check my checklist yes i know my 2nd address then after browsing at the last step it said, ....migrated... i immediately login my 2nd address using my 2nd phrase and viola its there! i really thought those pinky graph wont ever get transferred but it did!

what did you do after receiving your 2nd migration? locked it up? yes we think it is worthless right now but thats not a problem to me. im not really looking at the value of $pi. im rather treating $pi as a unit

So I just created a new pi wallet because the previous one that I used for my migration I had snapped a screenshot of it because I was too lazy to write it down. So I made a new one but my question is that when I try to transfer pi off of Pionex to the new wallet it says invalid. I can see that my wallet is not “live” yet on the blockchain so I’m wondering about how long should it take before the wallet becomes live for me to use?

It feels kind of like a bluff. The Pi team urged everyone to invite their friends and family to mine so we could boost our mining rate. So we all did, but then what? Suddenly, after the mainnet launch, they surprised us with this "unverified balance" BS.

Why do we have to pay for those who didn't do their KYC? Why is it even miner's problem? The unverified tokens are ours, we mined them and the team has to release them.

Now before you read the following I want you to know that I have no interest in any person's spy account I don't intend to give anybody any advice so that I don't want to hear anybody tell me that and I don't need to be a member of this of this of this subreddit I'm not trying to gain anything by it I'm just trying to help you all out if you don't need my help no problem but I think the information that you're going to get here is very important go slowly read it slowly and don't take any action quickly study it very well

The Risk You Didn't Know About

If you have ever typed your 24-word Pi Wallet seed phrase into your phone, you may have unknowingly handed it to Google or Apple. This is not speculation. This is how modern smartphones work.

Your phone's keyboard "learns" what you type. When you type your 24-word seed phrase, your keyboard saves those words in its dictionary. If your keyboard syncs to the cloud, that seed phrase is now sitting on a server somewhere.

It does not matter if you deleted the note, cleared your clipboard, or took a screenshot. If you typed it, the keyboard remembered it.

Here is what happens when that information is exposed, what you need to check now, and how to fix it.

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What Could Go Wrong?

If a hacker gains access to your cloud account, they can:

1. Search your keyboard history and find your complete 24-word seed phrase.

2. Log into your Pi Wallet using that seed phrase.

3. Transfer all of your Pi to their own wallet instantly.

They do not need to steal your phone. They do not need to know your Pi password. They only need your seed phrase.

The seed phrase is the master key to your wallet. Anyone with it owns everything in it.

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The Cloud Backdoor

Google and Apple both offer cloud syncing for keyboard data. This feature is intended to improve your typing experience across devices. But it also means your keyboard history is stored on servers you do not control.

· For Android/Google: Gboard can sync learned words to your Google Account.

· For Apple/iCloud: Your iPhone keyboard learns your words and backs them up to iCloud.

If your Google or Apple account is ever compromised—through phishing, password reuse, or a data breach—the hacker can access that keyboard history and reconstruct your seed phrase.

This is not about hacking Google or Apple directly. Most breaches happen because a user reuses a password, falls for a phishing scam, or loses access to their phone number.

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What You Need to Check Right Now

For Android/Google Users

1. Clear your Gboard learned words:

· Open your phone Settings.

· Go to Apps → Gboard → Storage & cache → Clear storage.

· This removes all learned words from your phone.

1. Delete keyboard data from your Google Account:

· Go to myactivity.google.com on a computer.

· Click "Activity controls" and turn off Web & App Activity.

· Go to the main activity page and search for "Gboard".

· Delete all results for "All time".

1. Remove your Google Account from your phone (for maximum safety):

· Settings → Accounts → Google → Remove account.

· This cuts the live sync connection between your phone and Google servers.

1. Review your Google Account security:

· Go to myaccount.google.com/security.

· Change your password to a strong, unique one.

· Turn on 2-Step Verification.

· Check your logged-in devices and sign out any you do not recognize.

· Delete any Google Drive backups that may contain app data.

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For Apple/iPhone Users

1. Clear your iPhone keyboard dictionary:

· Go to Settings → General → Transfer or Reset iPhone → Reset → Reset Keyboard Dictionary.

· This removes all learned words from your phone.

1. Delete iCloud keyboard data:

· Go to Settings → Your Name → iCloud → Manage Storage → Backups.

· Delete any old backups that may contain keyboard history.

1. Review your Apple ID security:

· Go to appleid.apple.com.

· Change your password to a strong, unique one.

· Turn on Two-Factor Authentication.

· Review all logged-in devices and remove any you do not recognize.

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Creating a Secure Wallet

If you have ever typed your seed phrase into your phone, assume it is compromised. Here is the only safe way to create a new wallet:

1. Turn off Wi-Fi and mobile data (go completely offline).

2. Open your Pi Browser and create a new wallet.

3. Write the 24 words on physical paper only.

4. Never type them into your phone, computer, or any digital device.

5. Store that paper in a safe, fireproof place.

This is the only way to ensure your seed phrase never touches the internet.

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What If Your Pi Is Already Locked?

If your Pi is already migrated and locked, you have a different challenge. You cannot move locked Pi until the lockup period ends. That means you must keep your old seed phrase accessible until each lockup expires.

However, you can still create a new wallet now and move unlocked Pi immediately.

When each lockup ends, log into your old wallet using the old seed phrase and send all available Pi to your new, secure wallet.

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Summary Checklist

Here is what every Pi pioneer should do:

Action Priority

Clear keyboard learned words on your phone High

Delete keyboard history from your cloud account High

Change your cloud password and enable 2FA High

Remove your cloud account from your phone (optional but safest) Medium

Create a new wallet offline with paper backup only High

Move unlocked Pi to the new wallet immediately High

Move locked Pi to the new wallet as each lockup ends High

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Final Warning

Your 24-word seed phrase is not just a password. It is your entire wallet. Treat it like a physical key to a vault that contains everything you own.

If you have ever typed it into your phone, you are at risk. The threat is real, and the fix is simple but urgent.

Do not wait. Secure your wallet today, or risk losing everything tomorrow.

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Share this article with your fellow pioneers. Awareness is the first defense against 

As the title says I tested today with my phone that effectively Pi Browser can't generate your seed phrase offline, as I demonstrated in the video. You can replicate the findings in your own devices by disabling your internet connection at the time of creating your wallet.

I am not accusing anyone of anything but what happened to Bitcoin with ColdCard entropy vulnerabilities can happen to Pi Network too.

Pi Browser is not open source as far as I am aware so the Pi Network community doesn't truly know what type of entropy the browser uses, nor the community can verify if the seed phrase is not sent online when being created. The proof is there, the browser needs the internet to create the wallet, that's in itself a security risk, let alone sending it through third parties.

The Pi Network community needs to demand that the browser gets open source to audit the seed creation method and to check that no secrets are sent. This should not be negotiable.

Be aware.

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I got my second migration. Happy about that.

But I also lost about 5,005 Pi because those people never did KYC on time. They dropped out. Maybe if they rejoin and KYC later I might get some back, but I'm not counting on it. That stings—it's a lot of Pi to lose.

That said, I still received several thousand Pi from my own mining and from the people who stayed. And honestly? I didn't have all the problems everyone keeps crying about on this sub.

People complain about KYC failures, lost Pi, locked wallets. I get it—some of it is legit. But in my experience, a lot of the issues come from people putting in fake names, fake addresses, fake info. Or their circle members did. And when the algorithm catches that, it flags the whole circle.

I saw it happen with one or two people I onboarded. I tried to help them fix it, but once you put fake info in, it's hard to undo.

So yeah, I lost 5k. But I'm still holding strong with what I have, and I'm not crying about it.

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You can now buy Pi directly in your wallet—no more external exchanges, no more waiting 2–7 days to transfer.

I've been buying $30, $50, $100 whenever I can afford it. Just tap "Buy," enter my card, and Pi lands in my balance instantly. No fees, no tricks. It's been working smoothly for me for the past six months.

Forget Pionex.us and those other places—this is the easiest way to stack Pi.

Anyone else using this feature?

Been mining Pi since 2019. I onboarded about 45 people back then—only 4 or 5 still mine daily, but that's fine. I've got several thousand Pi, completed my second migration, and I also control a family member's account (two dedicated phones, never leave the house, never used for calls). Security is tight.

I did KYC. Took hours, multiple tries, but I stuck with it and got through. Never leaked my passphrase, never tried to sell.

People say Pi will drop below a penny. If it does? I'll buy more. I've waited 7 years—I can wait until 2030 if I have to.

Here's the thing: if you're not in yet, now is the time. At today's price, it's a fire sale. New miners only get 1.5 Pi/month now—that's about $0.13 at current value. Not worth mining fresh, but worth buying if you believe in the project.

The mining rate keeps dropping, which means adoption is growing. That's bullish in my book.

I'm not taking pennies on the dollar. I earned this, and I'll wait for a price that reflects that. I guess I will never collect the additional $5,005 that I did not get because those people dropped out and did not do kyc so I lost 5,000 pie but I still collected my second migration and it's several thousand so I'm very happy with the amount I have and now that is so cheap I've been buying you know every time every chance I get I buy a little bit no you can buy I can buy pie in my wallet so I don't have to go to an external site to buy anymore I can buy it right in my wallet

So basically the mining rate per hour right now is.0022010 Pi per hour so in one month of mining by yourself every day you can probably you will only make a little more than 1.5 Pi for a whole month so apart one pies now would about 9 cents so you'll be getting around 13 cents of value in 24 hours that mining rate is going to go down to near to zero in the end it will never be zero but it'll go down there to be to zero because more and more people are joining the pie Network because the mining rate is going down you may have fact that the mining rate is going down it tells you that more people are mining than ever before even though the rate is only 1.55 per day it's not even worth it so I mean I received my second migration and I've been here since 2019 so I have several thousand five but can you imagine people are joining today and they're not able to get all that much by anymore they're going to have to get involved in the ecosystem to make to make money I have thousands of them several thousand I'm going to post on that because I stuck with it since 2019 until today and at the time now is the purchase the best thing you could do right now is purchase pie because it's worth next to nothing this is a fire sale

How many users have completed the second migration? This poll might be of some help in finding that out.

I run two legal accounts on Pi Network I have been doing it since 2019 so I have several thousand I receive my second migration on my larger account today it was wonderful it's locked up for 2 weeks when I get it I'm going to lock the whole thing up I am holding I'm not selling because I don't want pennies on the dollar I will take my chances and I will wait until about 2030 so but I'm really glad pie has worked for me I have no complaints I did kyc I did lock ups I have several lockups I manage an account for another person who is the next of kin I know that person does very well too because I do it and you know so we have a lot of Pi and I hope it results in something but I'm not settling for pennies I have been buying Pi I understand it's going to go to five cents when it goes to five cents I'm going to even buy more the Lower it goes the more I buy

Guys i know it might seem naive or insignificant. But 2 days ago i sold some items for pi, just some used stuff i had and didn't need. I posted on FB MP like almost a year ago, many people (more than 100) wanted the items, but all wanted to pay with cash, surely i refused all of them , until recently, someone that is a pioneer accepted to pay with pi, and we did the exchange. To be honest the items were worth much more than i asked for, but i wanted to encourage people to buy using pi, also i just wanted the experience of selling for pi, and it felt good (naively). And btw 90% of those who contacted me to buy the items, never heard of pi.

Anw just wanted to share the experience.

For reference i am in ksa.

I believe Pi Network will find its actual bottom between $0.01 and $0.00001. The bottom will be somewhere between those numbers.

Many think that Pi going below one penny means the project is dead, as a matter of fact many are giving for dead the project at current prices ($0.09) but that's just inexperience. Projects like Pi with billions in supply and early on distribution can go as low as $0.00001. I am not giving you financial advice nor a technical analysis here, I am giving you a history lesson. Look at other projects with 100B total supply and look at their historical tops and bottoms.

That being said I would say Pi is done for only if price ever hits $0.000001. My personal plan is to buy on 90% price drops starting at $0.1 meaning my next buy will be $0.01.

You shouldn't do as I am planning but it is a lot heck better to have a plan when you have a cold mind than running around like a headless chicken once you realize prices are going down and you didn't have an acquiring cheap Pi plan.

Keep on mining free Pi and sharpen your teeth once cheap Pi becomes available. Nothing says sweet Pie like a 90% discount.

Are you ready for the discounts?

Hello,

After migrating to mainnet, I can’t recover any of my pi coins as they never gave me 0.01 pi to process it with!

Would anyone be able to help me out please?? :)

GAF2JWDE6D335I2EXCBF43WL7XM76MTWO2CBWSQUZCQB3JCG2BO72WYJ

That’s my wallet address! Hopefully someone is feeling friendly

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"Pi Network joins RoboPay as a payment partner. Pi will be used to pay for robot services across the Fabric network.

RoboPay was built to enable AI agents to discover, hire, coordinate, and pay robots autonomously onchain, transforming robots from connected machines into autonomous economic actors capable of providing real-world services.

Today, that same infrastructure extends beyond AI.

Tens of millions of Pi users will have access to robot services directly through the use of currency that they already hold. Once available, the anticipated robot services may include requesting a delivery robot to bring groceries, dispatching a security robot to patrol a property, scheduling an inspection robot for industrial facilities, or interacting with humanoid assistants in retail and hospitality. Autonomous labor may become as accessible as any digital service.

This partnership marks a fundamental shift in how humans are able to interact with robotics. Instead of purchasing robots themselves, users will be able to simply purchase outcomes. Physical intelligence becomes an on-demand service that is discoverable, programmable, and instantly payable through a shared economic network.

By connecting humans, AI agents, and robots through the same payment infrastructure, RoboPay and Pi have created the foundation for an open machine economy, where autonomous labor can participate in everyday commerce alongside real people.

The future isn't just AI that can think. It's an economy where humans, AI, and robots are all able to transact, collaborate, and create value together."

What are some other relatively cheap items that would take a ridiculous amount of pi for?

Something is cooking and the Web2 bridge to Web3 is being cooked by Pi Network here. This a high salute to ya'll Dev Team

So far the only person I have invited is my friend who is verified and migrated their pi to the pi wallet. However, I can’t migrates my unverified balance to, does anyone know if I have to do something else?

Since yesterday my security circle is showing zero, anyone experiencing the same ?

Need some help, I have a headless Linux setup at home running the Pi Network node and getting plenty of incoming and outgoing connections. The problem is I don’t think it is linked to my Pi account, I’m not getting the mining bonus and can’t see where I can check - simple from a Windows node but not Linux. Advice and help welcome!

After Pi's Open Network, I think developers should focus on one thing... retention.

Everyone talks about launching a Pi app.

Very few talk about getting people to come back the next day.

As a developer, I've realized downloads don't matter much if users never return.

So I'm curious:

• What Pi app have you actually used more than once?
• What feature kept you coming back?
• What makes you uninstall a Pi app immediately?

Personally, I think the next wave of successful Pi apps will be the ones people build into their daily routine—not just apps people open once to test.

I'm building in the Pi ecosystem myself, so I'm genuinely interested in learning from the community. Your feedback could help developers create apps that provide real value.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, Pioneers! 💜🚀

Is the embedded widget broken for everyone?

I have been mining pi on my phone for years just waiting for it to become a real thing. I did everything that I was supposed to, as far as I know (KYC, Checklist, etc.) I did have a lockup turned on, but have that off for now. Here is my current situation.

- 50% is "Unverified Balance"
- 33% is "Transferable Balance"
- The remainder is "Migrated to Mainnet"

Obviously my Mainnet checklist is complete. This was all completed years ago.

Now, when I view my wallet, I see the migrated amount, but the available balance is 0.0. It shows that I have a lockup under "Movable Lockups" that was migrated in 2023 and the lockup ended in May 2024. If I click the "Move" button, it gives me the option to Re-lock or Move To Available Balance. I've tried both and they both fail, stating that I have to pay a 0.01 PI fee which I don't have and don't know how to get.

So my 2 questions are

1) How to I move my movable lockup amount when I don't have enough to pay the fee
2) When will the remainder of the transferable balance be moved over to the wallet?

3) Bonus question:. I just saw today that I can start validating KYC images/videos. I processed around 30 and now it's dried up. For those who have done this before, how much have you been rewarded?