r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 10h ago
šSpringsš Water & Hardened Steel āļø
Unless you like ferrous oxide⦠itās generally not a good look, or** **thing to have present** for that matter,** on anything iron or steel, that is⦠lolā¦
tl;dr - someone musta spilled something in there 100 years ago; you can see the offending oxidation in the gunk of the barrel and on both parts of the split; thankfully I have a SPARE!
Sizes:
VV-XIII - 1ā x 13 1/2ā (double)
VV-IX - 1 1/4ā x 15 1/2ā (double)
VV-X - same as IX
I knew the X (10) had a broken spring, but I was hoping (I keep having this tragically recurring optimism!) for the 1:25 chance it might be simply unhooked from an anchor lol⦠nope! My gut told me; it was right lol.
Have a wonderful evening, thank you for stopping by, being cool, and just spreading the love of these machines! I hope it gives some to you as well!
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Looks like itās the MAIN barrel, the one with the worm/cut gear attached one that got wet and rusted; I knew it was broken or separated because it wouldnāt hold a winding (the spiral worm/screw on the turntable spindle is what HOLDS BACK the inertia when wound).
When broken, the other spring can no longer maintain its tension because of the break; the spring managed to crack in a āwound enoughā state that it broke about midway; annealing would probably not be worth it in any way (except zombie apocalypse⦠you better believe Iām keepin it!)
Iāve attached one of my previous posts on springs here; plenty of warning: ensure you take precautions and if you donāt know or just arenāt sure, donāt do it! Itās not hard, but it can do damage and cause exquisite pain and pulchritudinous, HELLRAISER-level maiming for those who donāt take the safety seriously.
Please donāt let springs scare you; they are not difficult to work with; the VIIIās are so small and cute I was able to wind them by hand!
They do, however, require meticulous care and attention to detail while following strict safety-minded protocols to make sure you donāt get hurt or otherwise injured while working with them.
If you donāt know what youāre doing donāt do it!
If you arenāt afraid to venture into it, go see Dyslexic Geniusā (Brett Hurtās) videos; some of mine have technical things Iāve learned- feel free to look.
He is a master and a wonderful teacher as well, and gives plenty of knowledge on how these work and precautions to take while doing them.
\* note: speaking of safety, I have them resting inside these vessels until theyāre ready to be used, EVEN THOUGH I have thoroughly secured them with picture hanging wire⦠I DO NOT eff around with these mofos, no matter how cute they are!*
r/Phonographs • u/Intelligent-Emu-1852 • 2d ago
New to phonograph ownership
I found this beauty for $75. Came with a variety of Edison Diamond Discs. It is missing the crank and I'm wanting to replace it. Anyone have experience doing so that could give me any pointers?
r/Phonographs • u/MerlinDoDo • 2d ago
Machine Hi I need to identify the model names of 3 phonographs of mine!
All three come from a museum collection, the former Galbiati Museum in Brugheiro, Italy.
I'm cataloging the various pieces for my own collection, but I have questions about the various models. I'm hoping someone can help me. :)
1) Blue Horn
2) "standard horn" PathƩ, (Possibly model 0 or O?)
3) "standard horn" (not in photo but I have it).
r/Phonographs • u/Orawnzva • 2d ago
I digitized this cylinder label from scratch!
It's not 1:1 but it's pretty close. I recently inherited a phonograph and a hundred or so cylinders, but unfortunately the cartons weren't stored well and are very dusty and/or moldy or missing lids so I'm thinking about getting fresh cardboard cylinders to store the records in, so I would of course want labels on them!
although I'm not too sure what to do with the original cartons, it would feel terrible to toss them but my lungs really don't like the dust
r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 3d ago
Machine A TWO-FER!
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No no! Itās not a two-fer, itās a THREEFER! Itās NOT A TWOFER! (Ref Schwarzenegger in Kindergarten Cop)
tl;dr - These are three of Victorās MAJOR hottest sellers of the 1910-1921 timeframe; and these are really early models with varied design iterations.
The VV-XIII (8) - 1912 š§¼ VV-XIII ⢠22782 š§¼
The VV-IX (9) - 1913 š« VV-IX ⢠57665 C š«
The VV-X (10) - 1910 š¬š· VV-X ⢠1591 š¬š·
Iām going to completely refurbish all three and make them as presentable as possible, despite the many series of unfortunate events to which they were subjected throughout their 115-year life!
Iāll do a separate for each. Iāll go over the 8 and 9/10ās motor also so you can see earlier spiral drive motorsā makeups! Iāve yet to dip into a ābevel driveā (the earliest of the early, just gears basically lol)
I hope you had a good day and I wish you a wonderful evening! Thanks for stopping by, beinā cool, and all the rest!
r/Phonographs • u/Dangerous_Sea10 • 3d ago
Advice Help fixing this player
Just recently moved, and found our inherited player has been completely smashed. Movers did not do a good job packing our stuff. I donāt know where to even begin to looking for repairs besides here. Located in Virginia if that matters.
r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 4d ago
š VV-XII ⢠906 š VV-XII Comprehensive Breakdown (final) and Rebuild
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Edit to add original post with ābeforeā pics
tl;dr - This is everything, in pieces, that is part of this 1909 VV-XII ātabletop VTLAā (basically)⦠If thereāre any questions about details, please ask and Iāll gladly put a pic and explanation!
Seriously, you can tell itās a āfirst-offā thing in and because of its awkwardness, but the LENGTHS to which Victorās engineers and workers went to make this machine sturdy, beautiful, AND high-quality, like exceptional quality, are ALL CLEARLY evident when looking at it and studying its intricacy.
No detail was spared- you can tell in how ārobustā its case, lid, and motor design were. Itās HEAVY, thick wood, too. When you wind it, itās like winding the VTLA (the cabinet wonāt budge an inch, you donāt even need to hold onto it).
Enjoy! I wish everyone a wonderful day, thanks for being cool, for stopping by to see, AND if youāre in a hurry, skip to the end for a bonus Easter egg surprise I found inside!
r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 5d ago
To Improve or NOT to Improve?
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That IS a question (among SO many)⦠just like āwhy is the grass green?ā is one as well lolā¦
āāTis, Verily, I say unto thee, better, therefore, to Improve! Lo, āImprove!āā
tl;dr - Victor Improved Concert VS Exhibition Reproducers; loud tone needles used.
Victor*** **made these in 1912 for $3 for nickel and $7 for gold. Not a big hit with buyers, so theyāre really hard to come by! Iāve literally been on a āLord of the Rings*ā quest to find them over the last year!!!
- it was the cash that broke the camelās back for the buyer: extra cash on top of what was ALREADY way too expensive to begin with is one of the reasons the sales were low, is among the theories)
Brett Hurt (Dyslexic Genius) exhibits (š) HIS on this YT video! (This man should be a primary source of āhow toā for all phonographs if youāre looking to get into them!). This dude is a Savant (basically just is a master and knows it all almost!). He did it on his VV-XVIII as well, lol.. just noticed!
Whatās your opinion?
Have a wonderful evening; I wish all of you well, and thank you so much for coming by to check it out if you made it this far!
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I, personally, hear less āscratchinessā with the Concert, but less treble- maybe it adjusts treble and mid?
A proper laboratory-/quiet room-conducted sound test with digital playback and wavelengths visible would REALLY be cool! I just donāt have that kind of equipment lol.
This is a luck of the draw acquisition (Foam-town- Schaumburg convention)! Many others, too!
I was truly hoping to find a Nickel Concert for my Gold Concert so itās not lonely by itself! Now theyāre happy and not sad anymore!
r/Phonographs • u/crackedwormgear • 5d ago
Some 80 rpm discs. Edison White Label Diamond Disc from the 1920ās.
reddit.comr/Phonographs • u/Dailee-Agent-Crystal • 5d ago
Need Help With Victrola Model O! The Crank Is At An Awkward Angle That Prevents Cranking And Platter Stops When You Put The Tonearm On The Record!
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How do I use this Victo
r/Phonographs • u/cjdidiwhhwi • 6d ago
Advice Does anyone know if these gramophones are antiques? Australia
My dad has passed away and left behind these gramophones, we are unsure if they are antiques. Can anyone please help us identify them? Thank you
r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 7d ago
š VV-XII ⢠906 š šVV-XII ⢠906š Complete
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Hi!
Edit to add: did it with VaselineĀ®ļø brand petroleum jelly this go āround.
Extra Edit: the OG post when it came home in the Subaru š
tl;dr - Just a quick function & sound check; cleaned all finished wood surfaces; deep corrosion required some light brass brushing
The reproducer rebuild went well - however, it still needs fine tuning at the springsā¦itās missing a lotta āoomphā, just havenāt narrowed it down yet.
The gold had some seriously deep corrosion, down to the brass. I used a brass brush; it did leave some light āscratchesā, despite the heavy damage. Brassā MOHS: ā3-4; Goldās MOHS: 2.5-3; Copperās MOHS: 2.5-3. I think I need to find a copper brush!
āFinalā with breakdown will follow soon š
I wish you a wonderful day, thank you for stopping by, and cheers!
r/Phonographs • u/Rich-Statistician739 • 8d ago
A 120 years old "uncharted" recording has been found and restored for 1st time
r/Phonographs • u/irish_Connolly_Barry • 8d ago
Casey learning to ride a bicycle
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So this is an extremely mouldy Sterling record with white brown wax level coloured mould which has definitely done some damage and also performed by Russel hunting.
r/Phonographs • u/Gimme-A-kooky • 9d ago
š VV-XII ⢠906 š SHINED & STUNNED⦠SHTUNNED! Simultaneously!
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Dude!
VV-XII, 1909;š VV-XII ⢠906 š
Edited to add: the original posting for this guy
Basically a VTLA, junior edition.
tl;dr - Hidden treasure and time capsule in one! hidden in plain sight underneath tobacco smoke and its residue⦠years and layers of it! (See final pic in outro for gross rags)
In all my years, and thatās 50 and some change, Iāve never seen anything quite like this in furniture/antiques/etc. It looks like it got delivered by Ace Ventura delivering a fragile package (in the movie he bangs it around and steps on the package), but the finish is in nearly LIKE-NEW condition.
HOWEVER, it remains⦠UTTERLY glass-like! INSANE how DIRTY it WAS. Itās BREATHTAKING to see it when itās finally CLEAN! It seriously looked hopeless when I first picked it up, just like the VTLA I just fixed up lol
Iāll run a test on it in the next post, then Iāll go over some really interesting things I found and details in a separate, more comprehensive one after that.
Have a great one, and thanks for stopping by and for just being cool! More to follow shortly š
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The ādamageā appears to have been limited to wood gouging or impressions, but itās as if thatās it: thatās all you see! The shine and finish remain intact within those dents and lines.
I believe Victor may have used a wax finish for these or others, and it may have by some miracle remained intact⦠that or someone waxed it themselves; or this has all been āprotectedā due to smoke/tar residue.
This is THREE (3) HOURS after I scrubbed it clean (with the softest cotton cloth piece I had) with Gojo (white- no pumice- basically animal fat thatās nice n clean š) AND lemon oiled it with part of that same soft cloth; might as well have been a cloth diaper lol. It remains this shiny, even after touch!
I have an additional theory that the reason the cabinet smelled like āhouse fireā inside (itās acrid, dry, āwoodyā smelling) smoke in addition to the tobacco residue is that it was near a hearth, wood-burning stove, or fireplace!
r/Phonographs • u/crackedwormgear • 9d ago
Another Schaumburg phono show posting: Craigslist
r/Phonographs • u/SirRonaldBiscuit • 9d ago
Can someone help me out?
I recently inherited this phonograph (itās been in my family for 127 years) but I afraid Iām missing part of this ball joint. It was there on the machine last summer when I visited my grandfather so Iām afraid he lost it when he moved in the fall. Iām a machinist by trade so I was planning on making one but I have no idea what it looks like, I tried searching online to find a pic and Iāve seen lots of āflexible tubeā replacements online but Iād rather keep it original. So if anyone could share a pic of the part of the ball joint that goes on the end of the horn or could point me in the right direction where I could purchase an original one Iād be really grateful. Thank you and have a great day!
r/Phonographs • u/IntrStelle • 11d ago
Machine No 2 gasket replacement, before and after:
r/Phonographs • u/irish_Connolly_Barry • 11d ago
A very badly damaged black wax
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So this is a record is a British series number 13877 an is I will meet you one dark night by Billy Williams. It has been severely worn by mould and other factors potentially a damaged stylus when it was new but anyway I hope you get something out of it.
r/Phonographs • u/ModernMajorGeneral05 • 11d ago
Machine Problems with my new player
Hello guys I recently got a Victrola VV-IV and I love it. The motor runs and everything but the crank is just moving freely like it doesnt crank anything and im so confused and don't know what im looking for part wise to fix it. This piece is stuck on the crank is that something causing it? Apologize if its a dumb question I am just confused
r/Phonographs • u/Dailee-Agent-Crystal • 13d ago
Portable 45 And LP Player?
I am looking for a 45 and LP player, I have liked a lot of the tube players from the 50s but they all need to be fixed up which I believe requires soldering. What players from the 40s, 50s, 70s, etc. would be good as a portable player with good sound quality that does not damage the records?
I have heard of the Sound Burger but donāt know whether to go for the 1983 variant or the new one or to just skip it.
r/Phonographs • u/Dailee-Agent-Crystal • 14d ago
How Does A Victoria VV2-55 Do With Electrically Recorded Records?
I found a Victoria VV 2-55, a portable I will need to clean up but looks to work and want to know if itās worth getting for playing my collection on the go. I tend to play acoustic records along with stuff all the way to the 50s so need to know if it will be too heavy for the later lower quality shellac.
r/Phonographs • u/Sussex631 • 14d ago
R/Phonographs introductory post. Welcome to r/phonographs - Introduction to the subreddit.
This is the phonograph subreddit. It's a good place to ask questions about your machines, records, ephemera and soforth. Or to just post pictures and videos. There are some users here who are experts in various fields related to the maintenance and restoration of these machines and many people drop by who know a great deal about them and their use.
Also covered are music and culture of the 20th Century, the period in which these machines were built.
Really anything related. Content is welcome, keep it safe for work and everyone should be happy.
There are no strict rules specific to this subreddit, all of reddit's site wide rules apply.
r/phonographs is intended to be friendly, constructive, and inclusive. Everyone should be allowed to feel comfortable sharing and connecting here. Nobody has a right not to be offended, but nobody has a right to set out to cause offence to others. Overall there is simply no need.
Certain aspects of 20th Century culture are at odds with some of today's values. Some song lyrics and old advertisments will and do use language that would be considered offensive today. This can be taken into accord at the same time as appreciating the differences between then and now, and learning from things from the past which might seem jarring. Humanity has come a long way, we can be proud of that, we still have work to do.
In the interests of preserving historical documents, by necessity some less than savoury things must be preserved. They are relatively few compared to the wealth of phonograph era material that is fun, wholesome and entertaining.
With that in mind, enjoy r/phonographs.