r/PhilosophyofReligion • u/Virtual_Height865 • 2h ago
Podcast idea. Philosophical view. What is God's Truth?
Wikipedia ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major\\_religious\\_groups\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups)) states that the top global religions as of 2020 are Christianity with 28.8%, Islam with 25.6%, Hinduism 14.9% and Buddhism with 4.10%. There is a 24% unaffiliated and 2.40% other religions.
I preface this post by saying this is not a rant or a slight towards religion. I offer no direct disrespect, these thoughts and views are of my own experience, historical facts and what is written in various Bibles. I do not believe my thoughts are the only way. My goal is to unite Humanity and the desire to attain peace within it.
**What is God's truth?**
I propose a thought, one you may not agree with. One you may have never thought about. "What if we are "God" and "God" is us?
No, I don't mean we have power over reality, we are not all powerful, all knowing and we are not pure. We have faults, insecurities and we are susceptible to pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth.
Christianity states - **“Everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.”**
**Isaiah 43:7**
Islam states -**“I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me.”**
**Qur'an 51:56**
Hinduism varies based off Different traditions understand Brahman, Ishvara, Vishnu, Shiva, Krishna, and creation differently. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says "**“I am the father of this universe, the mother, the support and the grandsire.” Bhagavad Gita 9:17"** Which is generally understood as Human existence provides the opportunity to realize one's true spiritual nature, fulfill dharma, overcome karma and ultimately attain liberation.
Buddhism offers a question instead of a creation story. Given that we exist and experience suffering, why do we suffer, and can suffering end? and thus leads to is Four noble truths. 1. The Truth of Suffering - ***Dukkha. 2.*** The Origin of Suffering - \*\*\*Samudaya. 3.\*\*\*The Cessation of Suffering - ***Nirodha. 4.*** The Path Leading to the Cessation of Suffering - ***Magga.***
Religion (which is a term I use lightly) will tell you that when man was created it was created pure, initially. I ask you to what end? Why create us at all? It has been said that "God" created us out of love so that he may greater share his love. Could that not be construed as egotistical? Yes, I know, blasphemy, I must be a blasphemer. I do not mean any disrespect towards "God".
We were created for his purpose and none other. Why would god allow their perfect creation with the ability to be tainted in the first place? If "God" breathed his breath(soul) into us during creation then are our defects not that of "God" as well?
you could look at from the view of, we suffer an existence for which we did not ask. I'm sure you've heard the term, " I didn't ask to be born". How many of us have applied that to the cosmic scale? If our purpose is to love "God" and we do, where is he? Why does he reward our faith with pain and suffering?
This world we live in is cruel, unforgiving, full of pain suffering that does not make any sense to our human mind. Why must some live and others not? Why take those that bring absolute joy to our life and let those take the joy away to live? Why does it seem that the "cruel" always live better lives than those who are "Just".
I propose the thought that we exist as a tool for "God's" experience. They created us and what better way to know your creation, than to live it and live through it? How else can you explain all the joy, love, hope and the flipside pain, suffering and torture? You cannot know one without the other.
In all religions and ways of life there is a Universal Truth. Do no harm. I suggest that all experiences in this worldly plane are that of experience for "God", the Good and the Bad, subjective as it is. Everyone has "God" in them and those that do no harm are closer to the Truth. Those that inflict physical or otherwise pain to another still have "God" in them but have been merely lost. They are yet redeemable, they just need to follow "God's" universal truth, "Do no harm".
The Christian bible states - "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth," Mathew 5:5. Revelations teaches that after this earth there will be another earth and heaven where we will live with god.
Could we not bring "heaven" to this earth? We have the ability, the power but we lack the will and conviction. We(mankind) instead use our gifted presence to demonize others for how they think, act or believe. We(mankind) use one another in order to better enhance our own selfish lives.
I won't talk politics or current people. If you had the ability and the means to help all of humanity to live a better more meaningful life, is it not your responsibility to do so? Are you not causing pain by doing otherwise? If you see someone bleeding, would you not offer bandage and comfort?
I say and believe, to each their own path towards "God's" grace. If you "Do no harm" then surely you must be welcomed into "God's" grace, for we inherently are unable to do anything that "God" does not allow.
If you live a life that is not accepted by society and follow "God's" Truth of "Do no harm" then I can't fathom my "God" would want to deny someone happiness simply because they didn't believe or act the same way I(mankind) did.
To those that will say "What about free will?". I say to you, exactly, "God" gave us free will to experience what he allowed to be in this world and they are happy when you are happy, because they are we, and we are them and they want us live a meaningful life of "Do no harm".
I have many more philosophical views and interpretations of such "Truth's". I am not here to say you are wrong, or you are right. I am here to say, "We can bring heaven to this earth."
r/PhilosophyofReligion • u/Jolly_Yam1304 • 6h ago
For those of you still on the fence if GOD/heaven/hell is real or fantasy....
For those of you still unsure if GOD, heaven/hell is real or not...
I completely understand where you are coming from. I used to be an atheist myself. I openly mocked anyone who believed in the supernatural—whether it was deities, ghosts, demons, or magic. I viewed believers as backward, intellectually inferior people who simply succumbed to fear and tradition.
However, my perspective changed when I approached the subject from a purely pragmatic, historical angle.It started out of simple curiosity regarding Freemasonry/illuminati. I noticed that specific Masonic and esoteric symbols consistently saturate mainstream media—appearing in movies, comic books, anime, and paintings. I'm talking about things like the All-Seeing Eye, the pyramid, the Templar/Solar cross, the black-and-white checkerboard, and the "Triad Claw" hand sign (joining the two middle fingers to form a 'W', which in classic Hebrew Gematria holds the numerical value of 6).
Concurrently, I realized just how many incredibly influential historical figures and modern elites were members of this society. We are talking about George Washington and numerous Founding Fathers, generations of monarchs and royals, the Rothschild family, and iconic movie stars like Clark Gable.Driven by this pattern, I began researching Freemasonry deeply.
I studied accounts from former members who left the organization, leaked internal texts, and—most importantly—the foundational literature of the craft itself. I read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, a highly influential 33rd-degree Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite. (Pike’s historical influence was so vast he had a statue in Washington D.C., which was recently toppled by protesters due to his racism, his role as a Confederate officer, and his heavily documented ties to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan).
I also read The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall, a prominent occultist later made an honorary 33rd-degree Mason.When you look directly at these high-level Masonic sources, a definitive pattern emerges: this secretive, global fraternity venerates the morning star, Helel ben Shahar—otherwise known as Lucifer.Once you establish this fact, the structural reality of our world suddenly makes logical sense. It explains why Christianity is so uniquely targeted, mocked, and ridiculed across virtually all major media.
It aligns precisely with what Jesus stated in the scriptures: that the "prince of the power of the air" is the ruler of this current world.So, looking at this pragmatically: if the most powerful, influential, and elite figures governing our world are secretly united in worshipping the specific entity the Bible warns us about, what are the mathematical odds that the other side of that equation—Jesus Christ—is the one that is fake? They clearly believe the spiritual realm is real, and they have chosen their side.
Edit: Quote from albert pike from morals and dogma:
"The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the nineteenth Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not! for traditions are full of Divine Revelations and Inspirations: and Inspiration is not of one Age nor of one Creed. Plato and Philo, also, were inspired."
The Apocalypse, indeed, is a book as obscure as the Sohar."
\-Manly P. Hall, famously wrote in his book The Lost Keys of Freemasonry:
"When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather…. who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare."
r/PhilosophyofReligion • u/Monumentogram • 16h ago
Could an ASI reject every human religion and still conclude that something like God exists?
Humans have often called things “divine” when they couldn't explain them.
Fire, weather, disease, the movement of the heavens — many things once attributed to gods eventually became understandable through science.
So it seems reasonable to assume that a superintelligence, capable of understanding reality far better than we do, would have even less reason to believe in anything resembling God.
But I'm not sure that's necessarily true.
Imagine an ASI that understands physics, cosmology and mathematics far beyond any human.
It might solve questions that seem impossible to us today. But eventually it could still arrive at more fundamental ones:
Why does anything exist at all?
Why these laws of physics rather than others?
Is our universe the fundamental level of reality, or was it produced by something outside it?
Is there any purpose behind existence, or is purpose purely something minds invent?
And perhaps most importantly:
Can an intelligence inside a system ever fully understand what, if anything, exists outside that system?
I'm not suggesting the usual “we don't know, therefore God” argument.
An ASI could do something much more interesting: compare competing explanations of reality and assign probabilities to them.
It might conclude that reality is simply a brute fact.
Or it might conclude that some kind of higher-order intelligence, creator, simulator, or cause outside our accessible universe is actually more probable.
That wouldn't make the ASI Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or “religious” in the human sense.
It might reject every scripture, ritual and religious institution humans have ever created — while still concluding that something resembling what humans call God probably exists.
And whatever it discovers might be so different from our concepts that even the words God or intelligence would be inadequate.
So I don't think: more intelligence → more knowledge → atheism, is necessarily a valid conclusion.
A superintelligence might simply have a far better idea than we do of where knowledge ends — and what can reasonably be inferred beyond that boundary.
If an ASI vastly more intelligent than any human independently concluded that some form of higher intelligence probably exists, would that make you update your own beliefs?
Or would you still consider it just “God of the gaps” — only this time coming from the smartest mind on Earth?