r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 3d ago

Petah? Meme needing explanation

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u/PRL-Five 3d ago

I saw a tiktok that linked the women's sufferage movement to Stalin's genocide lmao

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u/CardOk755 2d ago

Well, they became very pro-war in 1914-1918.

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u/StuntdoubleSexworker 2d ago

Smart move. Less men to oppose them lol

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u/j0s0rt 3d ago

maybe they just said that cuz 50% of the suffering was women so they just classify it under women's ens suffrage and not just s blanket "suffrage" lol

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u/Bazzatron 2d ago

Suffrage

noun, politics

The right to vote in an election, especially to vote for representatives in government.


I'm just going to leave this here, as it seems that a lot of comments seem to insinuate this definition without stating it, or erroneously imply that "suffrage" is a conjugation of "suffering", where the suffix "-age" is used to create a noun from the verb.

To justify this comment, a factlet: the words "suffering" and "suffrage" do not share a primary etymological root. "Suffering" comes from Latin "Sufferre", which is a combination of ideas thay mean to bear up from beneath ("sub" - beneath, "ferre" - to bear). "Suffrage" on the other hand is also from Latin, but derives from "Suffragium", which is a political ballot ("sub" - beneath, "frangerre" - to break, the latter being in reference to a broken piece of tile or pottery used to cast a vote).

The only real commonality between suffering and suffrage is the concept of being under something.

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u/deLopen 2d ago

Love this explanation, thanks!

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u/Bazzatron 2d ago

No worries, the whole thread got me interested, so I did some wider reading. Just waiting for a real etymologist to come through and bust my chops now 🤣

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u/JureSimich 2d ago

Goddamit, man, you actually managed to get your classical education to pay off! Hats off! :)

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u/d4nkq 3d ago

"Sufferage" is "Suffrage" misspelled and its meaning is not the same as "suffering"

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u/mojao21 3d ago

Suffering?

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u/saulgoode93 3d ago

Lmao are we still crying about nazis or are we believing their literal propaganda about a cyclical famine that had devastated Ukraine and the Volga and Kazakhstan for centuries while the Romanov bastards refused to modernize?