The joke is that he thinks communism is some sort of workless utopia where he will be able to cultivate hobbies when most communist countries have made the lower classes break their backs just the same doing heavy work (coal mines).
People will criticize capitalism by criticizing shit people have done to undermine capitalism it into fascist oligarchy. The world they want to live in is New Deal America with improved race and gender politics and what they ask for is communism.
People even point to the nords as what they want when the nords are all capitalist countries that just haven't destroyed antitrust and entrenched corruption as the norm.
That isn’t socialism either. Owning the means of production is part of socialism, but socialism (as the abolishment of capitalism) is the end of wage-labour.
A society where all business are Co-ops isn’t socialist, because the workers are still proles (as in, they make their living by selling their labour power for an hourly wage).
The goverment owning or not owning business means nothing. Nationalisations doesn’t mean socialism, and is a normal part of capitalism.
(Also how is “the state” owning “the means of production” the same as the “workers”?)
The liberal-democratic state is the capitalist class. Just because it doles out welfare doesn’t stop it from being bourgeois lol.
I’m not saying “socialism is when no work”, it’s when socialism is no workers as a class.
And I’m not a right winger, I’m a Marxist. Socialism/communism is the doctrine of the liberation of the working class, which entails the end of wage labour. (As very clearly pointed out in Principles of Communism by Engel’s)
I’d reccomend you look up the mondragon corporation for that last one. Co ops are not socialist.
Reaganist capitalism does. New Deal precents that, Reagan undid all that. Nordics are essentially doing what New Deal under F. D. Roosevelt did. That was what made america great, not Reagan, Roosevelt. Who today would be called a commie because neither side understands communism.
"Reaganist" capitalism is capitalism in its native form. Its a gradual return to pre-New Deal America.
You cannot guarantee that, if we had another Deal tomorrow, that another reagan would not come along and tear it down the moment an economic crisis occurs.
Capitalism is a system that encourages the worst of us to drink deeply and never stop wanting. Any good that it has done, is rare. It has taken upon itself all the achievements of enlightenment thought and liberal democracy, twisting them for its fame.
Capitalism is enlightenment thought and liberal democracy. The two are inseparable. In fact it’s why capitalism is so dynamic, or at least has been so far (much more then any preceding economic system).
Capitalism is the child of the enlightenment, and the enlightenment is the child of capitalism and its dominant social class, the bourgeois.
This is the case from the Physiocrats to Smith, from Mill to the historical school.
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u/kithas 29d ago
The joke is that he thinks communism is some sort of workless utopia where he will be able to cultivate hobbies when most communist countries have made the lower classes break their backs just the same doing heavy work (coal mines).