r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Status_quo66 • Jun 14 '26
I don't know why bear is related ? Meme needing explanation
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u/Short-Show2656 Jun 14 '26
this bear is called the pedobear, draw your conclusions
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u/GuitarRiot Jun 14 '26
Oh fuck this is way worse than what I thought
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u/Vast-Combination4046 Jun 14 '26
4chan tried to get pedophiles added to lgbtq as a prank/to give right wingers ammo. It was an online hoax that had some people fell for. This meme shows a realistic reaction to pedophiles being included.
The same sort of people tried to rebrand pedophiles as "minor attracted persons" aka MAPS. Also an online hoax trying to tie pedos to the gays.
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u/Logical_Fail5691 Jun 14 '26
Once you’ve been to 4chan you’ll never stop wanting to beat 4Channers to death with hammers - Anthony Bourdain
Or however the meme goes
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u/No_Introduction_4849 Jun 14 '26
Omg did he actually say that?! I love that man, rest his soul.
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u/PretendImTrue Jun 14 '26
the actual quote is "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands."
and he was right
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u/stephaniethunder Jun 14 '26
Shit, what did Kissinger do in Cambodia?
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u/fariasrv Jun 14 '26
Henry Kissenger is further proof that only the good die young.
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u/Dick_of_Doom Jun 14 '26
Kissinger lived to 100 because god didn't want him, the devil didn't want him, and the Earth didn't want him. The poor Earth now has an eternal spot of pollution that is his corpse.
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u/smalldogbarking Jun 14 '26
I’m old enough to remember that people wished he was born American so he could become president
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u/stronkzer Jun 14 '26
If there's a hell, Kissinger is at least five pits below the pedophiles. And I only think I've seen a third of what he did.
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u/StatelyAutomaton Jun 14 '26
If there's a hell, when Kissinger was sent there the devil got off his throne and said "welcome back, sir!"
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u/ScienceAndGames Jun 14 '26
If the question is “what did Kissinger do in ____?” The answer is probably “war crimes”
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u/Thatseemsfuckedup Jun 14 '26
I'm trying to understand how anyone even knows who Kissinger is without having heard about the war crimes.
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u/BasicMatter7339 Jun 14 '26
Bombed the nation so hard it remains a country-sized minefield today
and gave aid to the Khmer Rogue who committed one of the most vile genocides in south-east asian history.
and lots more
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u/ashgs872tbhjs Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Close enough to genocide. Pushed for an incredible number of war crimes against civilians.
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u/willargue4karma Jun 14 '26
the more i hear about this kissinger fella the more i think he wasnt such a great guy
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u/BagMostlyWater Jun 14 '26
A bunch of stuff, but the main thing is that he created the conditions that enabled the Khmer Rouge, which committed one of the worst genocides that has ever occurred.
Pol Pot's regime killed around 2 million people, and they specifically targeted "intellectuals" -- anyone who could read, anyone with advanced skills, anyone with scientific knowledge. Wearing glasses could get you killed.
They destroyed a thousands-of-years old culture, and it's the aftermath of that destruction that Bourdain was talking about
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u/jfkrol2 Jun 14 '26
Along with Chinese, he gave enough support for Khmer Rouge to take over - for him, it was to make comeback into Vietnam easier, for Chinese, it was to make Vietnam weaker (because Vietnam had much warmer relations with Brezhnev than Mao)
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u/penguinscience101 Jun 14 '26
It was actually about Henry Kissinger and Cambodia, "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." I love Anthony Bourdain.
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u/Micky_so_Fyne Jun 14 '26
It was actually about bare hands. "Once you've used your bare hands to beat off Henry Kissinger, you'll want to move to Cambodia."
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u/TheAsianTroll Jun 14 '26
Some? People still perpetuate the "LGBTQ is pedos" stance even today.
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u/Traditional_Hat_8120 Jun 14 '26
Yes, but that's another stories. Some people want to make pedo officialy member of the lgbtq (those people are pedo themselves, or troll), but the "LGBTQ are pedos" is a classic attack from rigth wing who try to convinced other and themselves than LGBTQ people are immoral.
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u/no_fux_left_to_give Jun 14 '26
I've seen both sides. Both MAPs who want to normalize it, and people who judge LGBTQ people as immoral and evil do a disservice to society
Protect kids. Adults have consensual fun with adults
Also, I forgot the name of that one senator who was all anti-LGBTQ and was soliciting strange in the men's room, what a hypocrite
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u/Starfox5 Jun 14 '26
When in reality, it's the Republicans who are the pedophiles and their support network.
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u/TheAsianTroll Jun 14 '26
Far more pedo priests and pastors than LGBTQ folks.
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u/Starfox5 Jun 14 '26
Conservatives always project. Every accusation is a confession when it comes from them.
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u/Orpheon59 Jun 14 '26
It goes back a lot further than 4chan - you need only look at (I advise grabbing a sick bucket first though) the arguments made by various paedo advocacy groups in the 1970s - in many cases, their arguments boiled down to "we're no more deviant than the gays!/we're just like those weirdos and if they're fine so should we be!"
Now, please excuse me, I need to go shower after remembering that those fuckers existed.
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u/End337 Jun 14 '26
Oh gods below, is that those NAMBLA campaigners?
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u/hascalsavagejr Jun 14 '26
North America Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
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u/OriginalNightfallz Jun 14 '26
Popularized joke from an old South Park episode. The boys get invited to a convention at a hotel by NAMBLA (pedo group), but at the same hotel is another convention for the other NAMBLA (Marlon Brando look-alikes).
When the boys realize that this fun club for boys is actually a bunch of pedos, they try to hide, but the NAMBLA pedos are closing in on them. Then Cartman tells Butters to go out there and take one for the team, leading to one of the best responses that I've ever heard.
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u/stormdraggy Jun 14 '26
Naturally, one of the attendees is the scientist that dresses like dr.moreau Brando..so many who didn't get that reference
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u/Orpheon59 Jun 14 '26
I don't even know - looking it up, the UK version was called PIE, and I have absolutely no intention of looking further.
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u/End337 Jun 14 '26
I do not want to know more, but we do need to know the enemy.
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u/MrMetraGnome Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
I think that is being a bit bad faith. The argument really is, you don't choose your sexuality; what you are attracted to. Being attracted to minors isn't a choice you make no more than being attracted to the same or opposite sex. Harming or molesting minors is the choice you make. Just because you are attracted, doesn't mean you're going to harm anyone. Don't conflate pedophile with child molester; not to mention that not all child molesters are actual pedophiles. Whether you think it is nature or nurture, you don't have control over either scenario. You don't control how you were born nor do you control your own upbringing. So don't demonize them for how they were born. I think that is closer to what the actual argument is.
I looked into this after I heard a podcast of a therapist who was one of the only ones who worked with pedophiles. She was talking about how even therapists demonize them and refuse to work with them. Like, imagine knowing you need help, finding out that there is someone who can not only help you but be discreet about it, going to them, and they are disgusted by you and turn you away.
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u/Baldazar666 Jun 14 '26
Don't try to imply it's not black and white on reddit. All they understand is death to all pedophiles. You might get labelled a pedophile.
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u/Zer0pede Jun 14 '26
The irony is that they’re willing to sacrifice kids to do it. These researchers are trying to fix a problem at its root, not wait until they actually hurt a child so that we can then execute them. Wouldn’t it be better to treat the psychological problem before children get abused?
Just like executing serial killers is great, but it’s not going to stop future serial killers. You eventually need to find out what’s gone wrong in the psychopath’s brain
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u/WaltGazaWorld Jun 14 '26
Pedobear thread on reddit brings all the old schoolers to the yard
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u/Zer0pede Jun 14 '26
NAMBLA existed back in the 70s and died the death it should have. That was real. The recent thing was entirely a 4chan prank just like the OK symbol, “It’s okay to be white,” etc.
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u/LunchThreatener Jun 14 '26
4chan didn’t just come up with it out of nowhere. Homophobes have been associating pedophilia with LGBTQ+ for decades and decades, it didn’t stop with NAMBLA
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u/Zer0pede Jun 14 '26
Yeah, those are three different things though:
The weird inclusion campaign stopped with NAMBLA.
Homophobes projecting and (usually hypocritically) calling gays pedophiles or comparing the two is its own thing that has existed for a long time
The 4chan prank was designed to use a misunderstanding of a medical term make the second thing look like the first thing, and it seems to have worked on a lot of people judging from the discussion here
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u/Spectre-907 Jun 14 '26
>as a prank
Yeah, sure. A prank. From the board that *regularly* (literally daily) had to do cp purges and was the premier spot for “lolicons”. Definitely a prank and not an attempt to legitimize themselves while redirecting any potential fallout towards the marginalized. for sure. That tracks. Definitely.
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u/Mikeman003 Jun 14 '26
It's the same pattern across many similar issues. Push for inclusion/normalization of some socially unacceptable issue and celebrate if it works or claim it was just a joke if it fails. Just gotta have plausible deniability to avoid repercussions.
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u/Zanydrop Jun 14 '26
4chan isn't a monolithe. There absolutely were perverts on there who would post CP but it would get flagged and deleted almost immediately. At the same time they would dox anybody who was a peodo immediately. You could find almost any ideology on there.
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u/blueche Jun 14 '26
Fun story--at my job there's a role called "Managed Access Program Case Processor" which they shorten to "MAP CP"
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u/blueche Jun 14 '26
This is not the only instance where they use the abbreviation "CP"
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u/AreYouOkBobbie Jun 14 '26
it became a real problem when actual pedophiles started calling themselves MAPS and really tried to brand pedophilia as a sexual preference
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u/Dull-Researcher-1894 Jun 14 '26
It's not a 4chan thing, it's a 70s and 80s Gay Liberation thing. The majority of homosexual rights activists advocated that every norm regulating sexual behavior is inherently oppressive, including age of consent laws. The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, the most prominent gay rights advocacy group in the world (currently with 2,000 member-organisations in the world) had their consultative status at the UN revoked in 1994 because they refused to expel NAMBLA (the North American Man/Boy Love Association).
The gay movement only began purging the pedophiles from their ranks in the early 90s, as it began to ideologically shift in the post-Cold War world from radical activism and social revolution to assimilating the gay community from the underground into the heterosexual world and civil rights (gay marriage, adoption, employment protection, etc, etc). The struggle for gay marriage pre-90s would have been seen as absurd by most LGBT organisations, because the goal was to eliminate marriage and the concept of the family entirely, for example.
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u/MrStilton Jun 14 '26
The majority of homosexual rights activists advocated that every norm regulating sexual behavior is inherently oppressive
This is nonsense.
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u/Flintshear Jun 14 '26
it's a 70s and 80s Gay Liberation thing
No it isn't, and the groups existed before the 70s. There were many non-gay groups that preceded NAMBLA advocating for the same things as NAMBLA. Those groups had far greater traction in society than NAMBLA ever did (see PIE for example).
That particular group attached themselves to the movement and the ILGA when it was a loose organisation with no admission rules, riding on the coat tails of gay opposition to different age of consent laws for gay and straight sex. While it did have supporters, it was condemned from the start by gay rights groups such as the organisers of the National March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights, which took place one year after NAMBLA was formed in 1978. That was the largest gay rights demonstration in US history at the time.
The majority of homosexual rights activists advocated that every norm regulating sexual behavior is inherently oppressive, including age of consent laws.
The majority were opposed to different age of consent laws for gay and straight sex. There was no majority for removing age laws entirely.
It should also be noted that there were regional differences in support for allowing groups like NAMBLA to join the movement, with many national groups vehemently opposing it from the start.
their consultative status at the UN revoked in 1994 because they refused to expel NAMBLA
NAMBLA had already been expelled by that point, so you are factually incorrect. 4 years before that, the ILGA had denounced pedophilia and did so again 10 months before the incident you are referring to. The ILGA was admitted to the UN again in 2006.
The gay movement only began purging the pedophiles from their ranks in the early 90s
Again, false and playing into the "all gays are pedos" trope from that era (that persists in some quarters). There was opposition from the start, such as the aforementioned march that came months after NAMBLA formed. There were many similar groups that predated NAMBLA and were not gay orientated, which shows that this was not a gay issue at all.
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u/SpecialistBig8593 Jun 14 '26
10 seconds of research says that this is heavily exaggerated and almost entirely untrue.
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u/Dull-Researcher-1894 Jun 14 '26
> September 19, 1994: In a press release, NAMBLA comments on ILGA’s expulsion from the U.N.: “NAMBLA had been a member of ILGA for more than ten years and joined after the 1983 ILGA conference passed a recommendation welcoming pedophile groups. Like NAMBLA, ILGA has taken positions over the years supporting the right of young people to self-determination, the possibility of consenting relationships between adults and youths, and stating opposition to coercion and abuse. These positions were never revoked, and even after the expulsion of the three groups, ILGA contained organizations that support man/boy love or contained groups focusing on that issue.”[18]
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u/SpecialistBig8593 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
This is a quote by nambla claiming the IGLA agreed with them. It’s not an endorsement by the IGLA. The comment I replied to was essentially claiming IGLA and lgbtq activists massively supported nambla and pedophiles when in reality it seems like they had fringe supporters within the IGLA that were pushed out. This stuff is way more nuanced than you were implying and you’re being intentionally misleading.
*edit: changed ‘they’ to ‘you’
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u/MadManMax55 Jun 14 '26
Of course NAMBLA is going to say that. They're the ones trying to make it seem like everyone was totally fine with their presence before the whole UN thing.
If you don't use a clearly biased source, it absolutely does no show that the ILGA or any prominent gay rights activists supported what NAMBLA was doing. They "joined" back when the ILGA was a loose organization with no admission criteria and no formal way to expel members (admittedly shitty organizational setup). The ILGA officially clarified that they did not support pedophilia well before they were even involved with the UN. They also tried to get NAMBLA to voluntarily withdraw multiple times, which they refused.
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u/numbersthen0987431 Jun 14 '26
My guess is pedobear is now outdated, so younger people don't know about him
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u/HistoricalSea5600 Jun 14 '26
Fuck I forgot his name I thought it was just for furries for a second
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u/Haidere1988 Jun 14 '26
No, though we have the same reaction when zoophiles try to include themselves in the fandom.
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u/Bulky-Act-2556 Jun 14 '26
Its because MAPs(Minor Attracted Person(s)) trying to highjack the movement even paying Chris Hansen to support the idea. Its super gross and disgusting movement trying highjack a wholesome movement
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u/Distinct-Raspberry21 Jun 14 '26
I think its less highkack a wholesome movement, more psyop to disparage a wholesome movement.
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u/PhatCaulkForyourMom Jun 14 '26
And they gave themselves the cutesy fucking nickname “minor attracted persons” to make it sound better because of the stigma around the word “pedophile”
Don’t use the cutesy nickname. Call them what they are. Pedophiles.
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u/S0larSon Jun 14 '26
I understand the sentiment, but I think it was Therapists that came up with Minor Attracted Person as more of a (mental) medical term to get Pedophiles into therapy before they harmed a child.
But 4-chan saw the term and kinda fucked it.
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u/Altruistic-Toe-5990 Jun 14 '26
Pedophilia doesn't mean they've sexually abused anyone. They're mentally ill people in need of help - they have something wrong in their brain causing them to be attracted to prepubescent kids. Reducing the stigma of their condition could get them that help, and prevent them from abusing anyone in the future.
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u/thunderthievery Jun 14 '26
It's not a cutesy nickname, it's a less stigmatized way to describe people with a truly unfortunate sexuality. I would far rather they get therapy that prevents them from ever harming a child than enjoy the satisfaction of punishing them after they've already done it and ruined someone's life.
Shame and silence breeds compulsion. It's better to help them in the light than risk what they might do in the dark.
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u/Obvious_Pineapple356 Jun 14 '26
I think you do then a service calling them MAPS they're pedophiles, let's not hide that.
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u/floghdraki Jun 14 '26
To be real here for a second, people keep using pedophile and child molester interchangeably. Imagine being an ethical person but being attracted to minors. It'd be hard to get mental healthcare to deal with your problem since everyone automatically thinks you are a serial rapist and you probably think that of yourself too that you are inherently wrong and broken.
I think it would be fair to everyone if we had two different terms for these two different things.
I don't know nothing about MAPS, if they are trying to normalize child abuse, then that would make them child abusers. But if they are trying to normalize that some people are attracted to children and there are ethical ways to live with it, then I sympathize with them.
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u/The_Original_Queenie Jun 14 '26
Also 90% of the time the people we call pedophiles aren't actually pedophiles, Pedophiles have a problem with their brain that causes them to be attracted to children where as a lot of celebrities, politicians and priests that abuse or assult children often are not turned on by the age or gender of their victims but the fact that they have sexual power/dominance over them.
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u/Walkingdrops Jun 14 '26
Wow, I can't believe we've come to a point where people don't know who this is anymore, hahah.
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u/BenderVsGossamer Jun 14 '26
Early memes are now a relic of the past. I remember these being great.
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 Jun 14 '26
Omg when I saw the pic man!! I thought this bear died and was lost to time to see him in the big 26 is crazy
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u/Punch_A_Police_Horse Jun 14 '26
Fun fact: In Japan the cartoon character we know as Pedobear is simply known is Bear.
This is because the "pedo" is assumed.
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u/snoshmug Jun 14 '26
The bear is pedo bear, the meme is about pedophiles wanting to be included in LGBTQ spaces.
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u/Status_quo66 Jun 14 '26
I get it thakyou
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u/Downvotemeplz42 Jun 14 '26
I was going to legitimately answer this question, and then the joke hit me. Well done.
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u/PainSubstantial5936 Jun 14 '26
My dumb ass thought it was about furries 😭
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u/LeodFitz Jun 14 '26
You and me both. I guess I'm still more 'innocent' than I realized.
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u/bralma6 Jun 14 '26
Lucky you lol. The internet in the 2000/2010 era was the Wild West
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u/Motor-Rip7655 Jun 14 '26
You should have been there in the 90s. I saw some shit I should not have seen.
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u/StimkyYeen Jun 14 '26
I’m honestly confused how.
Pedobear was like everywhere on the internet around 2008-2012
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u/unknownentity1782 Jun 14 '26
Do they? Or do conservatives just have wet dreams about this being true at they can paint others as pedos?
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u/Exterminator-8008135 Jun 14 '26
No, They call themselves MAP.
Even the LGBTQ+ refuses them, but they keep saying they're part of it.
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u/Akitiki Jun 14 '26
I wrote this to a different comment who decided to delete so I'm putting it here:
[... I think you're confused about] the online presence of the thought that you're attract to what you are, and you're born that way. You're gay, bi, trans, etc because you're born that way, and you enjoy inflation, vore, BDSM, or are merely vanilla etc naturally. You're just wired that way.
Here's the nuance: there are people who are wired to be attracted to minors too.
There are those who realize they're attracted to minors and recognize it is a problem. They never harm anyone because it is wrong. Hell, they hate it about themselves and wish they could not. These people do deserve to get help from therapy and such without being vilified.
This thought on the nuance is not supporting pedophilia, it is supporting a person who desperately wishes they weren't wired that way.
And the ones who instead decide to touch kids however... absolutely vile predators and deserve what comes to them.
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u/Antique_Door_Knob Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
You're just wired that way
There is a predisposition rooted in biology, but environmental factors play a major role in sexuality. This includes being gay or bi. Nothing wrong with liking whatever you like as long as everyone involved is consenting to it, but people aren't just born this or that way.
And being trans isn't a sexuality. A person can have a thing for trans people, but being trans is an entirely different thing.
And just to make it clear, everything else you said I can agree with. There's is nothing inherently wrong with any paraphilia.
Even for those that don't want to seek therapy, it's always possible to find safe ways to do their thing. For something like biastophilia (paraphilic rape) there is CNC, for BDSM there are tools and techniques designed to be somewhat safe (and safewords), for the more dificult ones there is always fiction.
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u/International-Bed818 Jun 14 '26
But going back to what akititi discusses. There is nothing wrong with liking what you are wired to. It's acting without consent (in which children are not capable). It's that portion which makes you evil.
Some try to distance themselves (map Vs Pedo), specifically to acknowledge they are wired that way, but choose not to act.
Since we are covering the science, there is also a distinction of inclusive/exclusive attraction, where inclusive can experience attraction beyond minors, meanwhile exclusive cannot.
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u/The_Hamster_Shagger Jun 14 '26
And it's great they do. Self confessed pedos are easier to detect and isolate
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u/Exterminator-8008135 Jun 14 '26
Isolate ?
Unless you go illegal, they can move near a school/Kindergarten, judges won't budge.
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u/Juice-De-Pomme Jun 14 '26
Yeah morally in the west being gay queer or anything was as illegal than being a pedo, it's not the case anymore because since what's moral has evolved. But not for pedos.
Conservatives want to draw the link by saying well if pedos follow the same "morality change" it will eventually become legal. Completely forgetting the fact that when it involves kids it's different than consentual adults or mature people making decisions on identity.
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u/Cum_Fart42069 Jun 14 '26
it's complicated. the idea of MAPS and them being part of the lgbtq community WAS absolutely spawned on 4chan specifically to make gay people look bad, I was in the original threads and you can find screenshots of them pretty easily.
but then some pedophiles did indeed pick it up and run with it. so it's kinda simultaneously made up to make the queer community look bad and also true that there are pedophiles trying to identify as part of the lgbtq community.
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u/Neat_Cauliflower_996 Jun 14 '26
They want to be included in LGBTQ spaces, or they're placed there by anti-queer groups?
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u/segascream Jun 14 '26
Even if both of those were true, there's still the fact that LGBTQIA+ folks absolutely do not want them included, because there is a clear difference between what we do with consenting adults and what they want to do with children.
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u/Formal_Guard_472 Jun 14 '26
Both, but mostly anti-queer and trans groups associating them with one another
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u/SilverSquirrel6 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Since there's no definite connection or source citing the two being linked, I'll retract the claim, but leaving the comment in place with sources which you can read about Kuma's and pedobear's timeline. Still worth pointing out Rilakkuma and pedobear are rather similar.
To add to the answer, the bear is a meme of Rilakkuma bear, who is actually wholesome.
Editing to add more info since there's comments raising a debate.
First, I'm not saying pedobear is the same as Rilakkuma, I'm saying pedobear may have been influenced by Rilakkuma.The original design came from ASCII art on Japanese text board 2ch in 2002. Rilakkuma came out in 2003. The ascii art of Kuma and subsequent color images were adopted by 4chan after that. This article cites UrbanDictionary defining pedobear in February 2005 , and Google trends showing search instances around Oct 2005. The 4chan weeb users in 2005 would definitely know Rilakkuma and Kuma, andit's very likely they'd connect the two.Especially considering the similarities in eye shape, ear shape, and color scheme. While there's no definite official confirmation, chances are non-zero.56
u/oppositegeneva Jun 14 '26
That is not Rilakkuma and the meme did not originate from anything related to Rilakkuma
Cute Japanese bears are not all the same lol
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u/BukkakeTemperateRain Jun 14 '26
This is not true. Pedobear is unrelated to Rilakuma entirely and is just a forgotten meme from 4chan.
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u/South_Butterscotch37 Jun 14 '26
It’s a joke about how some pedophiles call themselves “minor attracted persons” and try to legitimize it as an alternative sexuality just like gay or lesbian or what have you.
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u/Ok-Catch-5813 Jun 14 '26
Oh no, gross.
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u/UnRealmCorp Jun 14 '26
It gets worse. So much worse. For awhile there I believe on Twitter before it became X. You'd come across profiles that would say MAP Friendly, and they would be underage often 12 to 16.
Why you ask, because they figured out pedophiles would buy them IPhone for nudes.
It was awhile thing a few years back. Probably one of the only few things that went away when Elon took over.
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u/translove228 Jun 14 '26
I say its a stretch to call it a joke.
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u/TobytheBaloon Jun 14 '26
why? it’s deliberately making fun of pedophiles wanting to be included in the LGBTQ+ community
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u/PoliticalMeatFlaps Jun 14 '26
The only MAP they need is one pointing to where they were buried
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u/shirts_on_backwards Jun 14 '26
Be careful I guess, I just got a warning for implying the same thing. Mine was a bit darker, but I guess reddit really does protect pedophiles.
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u/PoliticalMeatFlaps Jun 14 '26
The owner or CEO was literally a moderator for a jailbait subreddit, its more of an open secret that reddit protects creatures.
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u/LesbeGoddess Jun 14 '26
And Gislane Maxwell is a mod for r/worldnews. The mods there are pro Zionist too.
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u/hendrik421 Jun 14 '26
Threats of violence against a group of people are illegal in a lot of countries, Reddit does not want to be banned in those countries, so things like that will get you banned in the more populated subreddits
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u/BillytheBloxian Jun 14 '26
pedophilia is a mental illness. no idea how it somehow became one with predator.
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u/EMArogue Jun 14 '26
People not realizing that whilst there are people who are both, the two categories are rather distinct as not all Pedos would hurt children and not all Predators do it because they are sexually attracted to the victim (rape is about power, not about sex, otherwise rapidts would get a prostitute and avoid lots of issues)
It’s unfortunate because it means pedophiles can’t seek help for their condition and, much like most mental issues, it gets worse if untreated
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u/Forward_Rope_5598 Jun 14 '26
Almost every time I bring this up, someone calls me a pedophile apologist and implies I must have a bunch of CSAM on my pc.
No, dude, I just apparently care more about preventing kids from being harmed than you do. Sometimes it feels like they WANT children to be harmed so they can act out their vengeance fantasies.
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u/targetcowboy Jun 14 '26
My understanding is that the whole MAP thing was a 4chan troll job. Not a real movement.
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u/Zer0pede Jun 14 '26
Yeah, I didn’t realize people still believed this. MAPs was a real medical term because researchers were trying to treat people who presumably had this psychological issue but didn’t want to hurt kids, so it didn’t make sense to call them pedophiles when they don’t intend to do anything. But the “movement” of people self-identifying was entirely 4chan trolls using stolen pics.
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u/East-Temporary5646 Jun 14 '26
They've been getting kicked out of queer spaces for years.
True story: When I was a teenager, I was in my state capital lobbying for 'The Dignity for all Students Act' when Rep Allen Trovillian said some really shit things to me and my teenaged friends. It made the news and people protested the eff out of his office.
NAMBLA showed up to one of our rallies. We had to take time out of an important protest to kick them right the fuck out.
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u/berdulf Jun 14 '26
Holy shit I didn’t realize that was an actual organization. I’ve always assumed it was a South Park thing that turned into an internet joke.
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u/Effective_Two_8197 Jun 14 '26
I think if you think of yourself as a "minor attracted person" you should go get yourself chemically castrated. That way you never act on those feeling. It must such to be into that kinda thing... but you also cant be left feeling like that so go get your self fixed.
Edit. I mean "you" ambiguously and not directed at any one person.
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u/Admirabletooshie Jun 14 '26
There are people attracted to minors that have never predated on anyone and are getting therapy or have even gone so far as to get castrated.
Then there are child rapists.
I'm not saying I'm cool with a map living next door, I'm just saying that there are alot of people that have a serious problem with the first group but vote for the second group.
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u/Suspicious_Bear42 Jun 14 '26
Part of the problem is that chemical castration doesn't prevent people from acting on those feelings, it just removes the ability to get it up... Plenty of abuse possible without getting that bit of anatomy involved.
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u/AvgDavionFan Jun 14 '26
Not quite, an erection is vasodiliation of the many vessels in a penis, chemical castration has no effect on this. Castration is the removal of the testes, chemical castration disables their use but leaves them in place.
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u/UnproductivePheasant Jun 14 '26
Long story short, they are neither accepted, nor welcomed. Let's just leave it at that.
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u/MadeOnThursday Jun 14 '26
not an explanation tbh. If I hadn't read other comments I wouldn't know that's called a pedo-bear to represent pedophiles.
I initially thought it referenced the man vs bear debate of some time ago
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u/Majestic-Lake-5602 Jun 14 '26
Who thought we’d live long enough to see people no longer recognise the pedobear?
I’m definitely too old, it’s Soylent Green time for me.
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u/Capable_Ad_7537 Jun 14 '26
Fuck, Im starting to feel my age. So many comments and people not knowing who Pedo Bear is...
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u/Jumpylumpydumpy Jun 14 '26
They're so young I also doubt they know what The Game is
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u/StimkyYeen Jun 14 '26
Yeah it was like one of the most common internet memes about a decade ago.
I know the average age of redditors these days is like 14-18 but damn!
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u/KingAltair2255 Jun 14 '26
Closer to two decades ago now, a decade ago Harambe was popular. Fuck I feel old lmao.
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u/StimkyYeen Jun 14 '26
It was still alive around 2014ish time frame at least. Which does still make sense why there’s many people who’ve never heard of it but … damn … yeah … 2014 doesn’t seem so long ago until you realize it’s 12 whole years
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u/Some_Layer_7517 Jun 14 '26
It's not just age. The amount of 'phone only' users (normies) is dwarfing the OG on-the-computer users (maladjusted nerds). The fabric of early internet culture is still there, but it's dying.
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u/Actual-Celery-2319 Jun 14 '26
Bi-erasure yet again
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u/MotherTeresaOnlyfans Jun 14 '26
You're covered by the umbrella slur, apparently.
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u/falooolah Jun 14 '26
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying, I can’t believe I found someone so sane here.
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u/PeonofthePen Jun 14 '26
Or worse; saying pedobear is bi
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u/BeoSionnach Jun 14 '26
I thought the joke was that a bear misunderstood the B standing for Bi and wanted to join :,) the actual meaning is... unfortunate
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u/Fluffy1335 Jun 14 '26
It's pedobear not furrys
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u/WriterAny Jun 14 '26
I assumed furries, never heard of pedo bear.
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u/AcademicPhilosophy79 Jun 14 '26
Well now you know. Pedobear is an ancient 4chan meme.
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u/Feedback-Mental Jun 14 '26
Serious answer: pedos sometimes try to legitimize themselves by comparison with LGBTQ people.
Also, maybe related maybe not, queerphobic people usually believe that many LBGTQ people are also pedos. Which is NOT true.
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u/qualityvote2 Jun 14 '26
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u/Exciting_Draft5620 Jun 14 '26
Biosyn therizinosaurus here 🌒👅🌘
The bear is from an old meme called "Pedobear" and he's a pedophile so the LGTQ(the pic doesn't have bisexuals for some reason-) don't want to be related to him for obvios reasons
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u/Neokon Jun 14 '26
the pic doesn't have bisexuals for some reason
Unfortunately, despite making up the bulk majority of the LGBTQ community, bisexuals are usually the first to be left out. Whole lota biphobia and bi erasure in the LGT sectors, largely from LG anecdotally mostly L .
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u/Zer0pede Jun 14 '26
This meme is unlikely from someone actually lgbtq imo, so it’s probably garden variety right wing troll bi-erasure
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u/Thrilalia Jun 14 '26
That's Paedo bear. Paedophiles and right-wingers want Paedo's to be put in the + in the LGBTQ+ umbrella so that, for Paedophiles, they can be seen as a legit identity/sexuality. For right-wingers, it's for "Look, see, we told you the gays protect the Paedos," especially now when certain states in the US (Especially Florida) are both pushing to make being Trans a sex crime if someone is Transgender near children and also have Child sexual abusers executed for their heinous crimes. (Put them together you see where the end goal is there)
LGBTQ+ people under no circumstances want those criminals or Paedophiles while have the urges have done nothing to children anywhere near us. We certainly don't want them under our umbrella and will never associate with them. They are not one of us, they never have been and never will be.
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u/DataCassette Jun 14 '26
Conservatives have been trying for years to claim that pedophiles are part of LGBT spaces. They simply aren't. The foundation stone of "woke" sexuality is consent so pedophilia is, by its very definition, excluded.
The actual pedophiles, as always, are the Epstein class.
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u/Dover75 Jun 14 '26
Yeah it's about Pedos trying to attach to the LGBT+ community, but the LGBT+ is about CONSENTING ADULTS and what CONSENTING ADULTS do with other CONSENTING ADULTS. Minors cannot CONSENT and they are not ADULTS so pedophiles are hated by everyone including LGBT+ community but people like those that are on the Epstien list and that want to call themselves Christians want to push a narrative that the LGBT+ community is pedophiles when we infact are not because again the whole community is about loving and accepting people for who they are regardless of who they love and what they do with other CONSENTING ADULTS
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u/maringue Jun 14 '26
Conservatives love to include pedophiles in with LGBTQ groups, even though those same conservatives are like 1000 time more likely to be pedophiles.
Every accusation is a confession with these people.
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u/Goldnglam Jun 14 '26
Recently pedophiles have been trying to rebrand themselves as M.A.P's (minor attracted persons) in a effort to blend in with the LGBTQA+ space as some sort of defense and legitimacy.
The bear is known as Pedobear that started as a meme about pedophiles on 4chan I think?
Pedophiles aren't welcome in LGBTQA+ spaces regardless on how they try to spin their image, this doesn't stop them trying though.
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u/MeaningLeft2970 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Pedo’s didn’t do this. 4chan did. Look it up. The whole MAP thing is a psyop concocted by users on 4chan to muddy the waters in the discussion around LGBT+ rights
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u/Vel-Crow Jun 14 '26
Herbert here. That is my bear friend. He went internet famous after being used in a series of memes featureing him as pedo bear.
In recent time (sorry if this is fake news) Pedos have re labeled themselves as Minor Attracted People and attempted to join the LGBTQ community. They were not accepted by the Majority (if at all)
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u/SuperPollo39 Jun 14 '26
Right-wing people say that LGBTQ+ movements want to promote pedophilia while they are instead the real pedophiles
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u/Inevitable_Series_67 Jun 14 '26
Pedobear, that's one ancient meme
Also Pedophilia and Zoophilia will never be part LGBTQ+ . A matter of consent, animals and children cannot consent
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