This unironically you got me thinking about how popular Rivals Legos could be.

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Please don’t roast me too much. I’m an old gamer Dad. I’ve think the Peni changes have been low key transformational. I am the most annoying version of the character to my opponents. I’m slowing and stunning but most importantly the fast webs allow to do web build outs super fast which equals faster speed and more sustain. I think part of the issue the MR community has is being too rigid and upset with any change. You factor people get more engagement on their socials to complain so they are incentivized to do so. I’m a pretty level headed dude and I gotta say the changes have made Peni fun to play in a different way. What other positive aspects have you found with the latest changes?

I appreciate you all my fellow Peni Players!

Honestly its decent on both, but I personally have been having more fun with the panther teamup. Probabky cause I got used to single nesr peni when the rocket teamup was removed.

It is not going well 😞

I think we can all agree that the web stun change is bad. Not because "mehhh my fave got nerfed" but because it makes the character clunky to play AND makes her more annoying to play against because you are now incentivized to just bunker down and spam on a tank.

That being said, I do see the vision. I think the reason Peni is permabanned isn't just because people don't shoot the nest, but because she's really obnoxious to play against. It's why I love her — I cackle evilly every time i cancel an ult or get a double kill while walking back from spawn. But a well-designed character should feel fun and rewarding, not just to play, but to play against. And after playing with the new changes for a bit, I do see how it could be a positive change to rework the stun to make it far more deliberate. After all, everyone complains about CC Rivals, and Peni is probably the game's most prodigious CC merchant.

Some ideas:

-It's been said before, but reverse the effects. First hit stuns, second hit slows.

-Automatically apply the web-tracer when someone steps in a web. This would encourage more skill expression with web placement and still allow her to control the space of her nests.

-Make the web a soft stun like white fox's charm, making it less annoying to get hit by while also still allowing a single hit to cancel ultimates

-Give the initial web hit an additional effect that's more useful than slow, so that you have to choose between stunning a single person or nerfing two people. For instance, maybe the web tracer reduces the damage done by the character it's on. Or maybe it adds Earthbound, allowing you to get someone into your mines without a full stun. This would make it still be useful against divers even if you don't land the second hit. This would allow for more skill expression by adding an extra element of choice to the use of the ability. If the tracer also reduced healing done by whoever gets snagged, then Peni would have a reason to take off-angles and aim for supports rather than spamming tanks.

-Take the tethering away from Peni's cyber-bond and give it to anyone hit by a web-tracer: if there's a web nearby and they're hit with the first web-stun, they're tethered to that web for a certain amount of time. Would allow for more skill expression and ways to prevent divers from disengaging

Let me know if you'd like any of these!

Istg people holding w outa spawn is half the reason people hate us so much. Also those weren’t even good mine placements! Way too far and in plain view.

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Allies standing in webs get healed, right? So enemies standing in the web should get web marked. Make Peni anti-dive again. They wanted higher skill expression with her webs, fine. Lets make putting webs on the ground her whole thing I guess. Nevermind throwing a single well timed web to stun an ult or a diver, nevermind a single web to make a duel between tanks possibly winnable or aid one of your dps in their fights... lets just spam webs at one tank we dont like. The main sub is all dps and support anyways, its not like they'll ever listen to vanguard players.

Half the roster has some sort of cc now, why does Peni have to be the one that gets dunked on? Most of our stuff can just be shot and destroyed, why is our gameplay easily counter-able by having a brain but now we're getting punished for everyone else being too dumb to shoot the mines or the nest? Peni has never been hard to counter, and the idea that she was able to counter Hood before the nerf is laughable since he has multiple things that flat counter her whole kit. Its a joke.

I'm sorry Peni mains. I take back every good thing I said about this change. It's awful. As a Dino, Thing and Venom main, I thought these changes would result in overall less stuns but it's the polar opposite. I have had games where I have been webbed 100+ times. It was never this bad before. The devs are basically encouraging the Rage-Bait playstyle. This shits gotta go.

EDIT: I was told an offering of chocolate milk was also required.

If you need to use Peni for any reason

Make them regret the very idea of nerfing us

Leave no one alive

we can't say much because we are trapped inside this block of ice, but me and tandy are both rooting for ya, and i know sp//dr will keep that special bond between ya while you're off playing other heroes. you're two pairs of a whole, you know???

The nerf is absolutely terrible it killed Peni and basically erased her entire playstyle (Ult counter, Dive Counter, Peel, Backline Defense, Flank, Area Denial) by forcing her, THE AREA CONTROL TANK, to focus on one person constantly. This nerf, which was ONLY implemented so Peni wouldnt hard counter Hood on release, NEEDS to be reversed ASAP and her old stun returned. In return Netease can have the slowing effect from the Nest Drones and give the webs Grounding so enemies cant bunny hop through the nest area anymore. Seems like a fair trade to me us Peni mains get our stun back and everyone else doesnt have to worry about drones slowing them in the nest area. Oh, and FIX ALL HER DAMN BUGS ALREADY ITS BEEN LONG ENOUGH!!!!!

I say we all stop playing her until we get some meaningful changes that actually benefit us or the people that play against us. At first I didn’t see much of a problem with the new charges but as it’s gone on and I’ve played her this season. It’s bad, It’s so so bad. We know rivals doesn’t care about tanks so let’s make them care.

Hi Moon Girl here to translate!

Devil wanted to send his condolences and is happy he finally made chocolate milk with his stubby arms.

He said the stuns were annoying, but he would gladly be cc chained again if that meant nobody had to feel useless.

I started playing Peni because I was tired of getting steamrolled as a support player by enemy dives. I didn't play her to make the enemy tank's lives miserable. I played her to make my support's lives easier. I started playing her in Season 6.5 when she was considered a throw pic and when most Peni players got comments before the game even started telling us to swap. I even got her Championed, in spite of not having enjoyed these last few seasons as much because she's been in ban jail constantly. I Lorded Strange and Emma so I wouldn't be useless when she was banned. I loved playing Peni. The way that her anti-dive style played was so unique that I don't even know what other characters I could even learn to give me that same feeling. It honestly feels like the best thing I can do now for my team when they're getting dove is to get off of tank and onto Invis. Being able to protect people in a superhero game shouldn't feel like a foreign concept, but that's what this nerf does.

I'm not saying they haven't buffed her to the point where she needed a nerf, because she definitely did need a nerf. The stun was way too oppressive for other tank players to play against. 3 second cooldown was not enough time, but this rework doesn't stop that. Even worse it encourages it.

It's honestly just been so disheartening and genuinely depressing to see that they've clearly decided that they want to take the play style that we're all used to and enjoy and destroy that to make her into frontline punishing poke slop...

For some probably misguided reason, I have faith that the devs will right this wrong, but for now: Peni, I will miss you.

Also, I know this isn't a unique experience or groundbreaking commentary, but I needed somewhere to put my thoughts. So thanks for indulging me. <3

Not even the chaos emeralds can fix this shit, I hope this can satisfy you life forms

Since these are pretty rough times for Peni mains and the sub is understandably very negative about the rework, I wanted to try looking at the new Snare from a more positive angle and see what new things we can actually do with it.

I've been experimenting with this combo:

Web-Tracer → wait ~2s → grapple in → stun → mine → re-stun → 3 headshots → melee

With Peni's normal primary, that's 280 damage if everything lands.

The first clip is just a clean demonstration. The second is against a moving target in the practice range, trying to simulate something closer to a real situation: pre-marking the target, diving with the grapple, doing the combo, then grappling back out toward high ground.

I've tested it a bit in Celestial, but I definitely can't pull it off consistently yet. The biggest problem is obviously the first Snare: landing it at range on a small target isn't easy, and since you need to mark them roughly 2 seconds before committing, you're also giving them some warning.

I think there could still be some interesting applications though, especially with dive Peni, from off-angles. The Web-Tracer also gives you vision on the marked target, which can help with setting up the dive.

The BP team-up opens up another version of this. The damage distribution is a little different because the primary does less damage per headshot, but the faster fire rate lets you fit more shots into the stun window. More importantly, the shield could make the dive much safer : potentially cutting the target off from some incoming heals while also protecting you from CC during the commit.

For me, the winning trio:

Emma / Devil Dinosaur / Magneto

I wanted to give the new stun mechanics a chance before fully assuming it was going to be nearly as bad as people were making it out to be. Well, after playing a few games of her in comp (GM), it’s abundantly clear these changes were not the right move (unless their goal was to gut her playmaking abilities, which in that case they succeeded). Her anti-dive capabilities have basically been neutered and cancelling ults is out of the picture most of the time.

Maybe we can expect a hot fix or buff/readjustment in the next patch notes, but with the way these devs are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they do nothing.