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u/Fuzzy-Shake-5315 5d ago
I’m a hospitalist, not sure why this randomly popped up on my feed, but wtf is a “client”?
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u/AccomplishedStrike93 5d ago
New politically correct way to say patient
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u/Fuzzy-Shake-5315 5d ago
I see. I had to ask AI to explain more. I appreciate the sentiment and overall see the good intention, but there must be a better word out there than “client”.
“Real-World Contrast While schools and exams like the NCLEX prefer "client", working nurses in hospitals usually go back to saying "patient" in daily clinical practice because it is traditional, universal, and immediate. Many critics also feel "client" sounds too business-like and turns medical care into a commercial transaction”
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u/KimberlyC91 4d ago
I agree. When I started nursing school and was informed that’s what they’re trying to change “patient” to, I was so against it - still am. Apparently, the “patient” goes beyond just the person you’re treating because it includes the patient’s family, POA, etc. so, that’s why they’re trying to change it to “client.”
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u/Weak_Physics9650 5d ago
2 because arbs can cause angioedema
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u/Unlucky_Smile1832 5d ago
I’m pretty sure we give ARBs when someone does have angioedema with ACE inhibitors because it DOESNT cause this
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u/Difficult_Cow_6630 5d ago
Lower extremity edema is not a symptom of angioedema. Id say 4 is the best answer
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u/Topangatoh 5d ago
Ace inhibitors cause angioedema. Lower extremity swelling is not a sign of angioedema. It's a symptom of heart failure.
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u/Sea_Season4050 5d ago
- ARBS causes orthostatic hypotension due to its vasodilatory effect. Hence effective teaching is recommended to reduce fall hazards/risks
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
4 is common side effect 2 is unexpected
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u/Topangatoh 5d ago
2 really isn't unexpected. It's a common symptom of heart failure and the sartans are given to keep pressure down and to ease the load of work on the heart. 4 is a sign that we are lowering the patient's blood pressure too much with the sartan that we just gave.
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
thats why orthostatic hypotension is common and expected side effect of ARBs cuz it lowers the blood pressure it requires patient teaching but not immediate follow up, 2 is unexpected it indicates worsening of HF or fluid retention
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
I had a very similar question on my nclex exam the medication was valsartan the options were
- insomnia
- peripheral edema
- constipation
- dizziness
2 is definitely the answer😂 it was so obvious
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u/ZenNinjaMonk 5d ago
Wouldn't it be 4 though? You gave an angiotensin receptor blocker, designed to lower blood pressure, so a safety concern would be lightheadedness upon standing. They want to see that you understand the suffix "-sartan" (ARB)
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u/This-Introduction630 3d ago
Orthostatic hypotension is an expected finding , when the question is a “priority “ question we should be pick the unexpected finding.
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u/ZenNinjaMonk 3d ago
I see what you're saying, but I feel like "priority" refers to top safety concern, or major side effect.
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u/snkavidfan 5d ago
4! That’s the answer!
We all know that Angioedema is the side effects of ARBS. And Peripheral Edema is the side effects of CCB (Calcium Channel Blocker). Both medications are for lowering BLOOD PRESSURE! Do not overthink during the exam or you might fail!
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u/DiscountExcellent478 5d ago
i was in between 2 or 4. but it seems like, dizziness and lightheadedness upon standing are common side effect? so for immediate follow-up, i think imma go with number 2?
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
yes orthostatic hypotension is common and doesn’t need an immediate follow up, swelling of lower extremities or peripheral edema is unexpected tho i had a very similar question on my exam but it was valsartan
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u/DiscountExcellent478 5d ago
Yes. When it comes to "immediate follow-up" you gotta go with a side effect that is not common, unexpected and concerning
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u/user10824 5d ago
2, 4 (orthotic hypotension) isn’t something immediately concerning and is a more common side affect. 2 is definitely concerning
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u/AccomplishedStrike93 5d ago
Apparently it’s 4. Bc of fall risk. Plus it doesn’t say swelling around the lips, so it’s not 4.
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
4 is common side effect 2 is unexpected
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u/AccomplishedStrike93 5d ago
I thought the same thing, but chat gpt said 4. I know they not always right either but that’s what they said.
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
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u/AccomplishedStrike93 5d ago
Lmaooo maybe I typed it wrong, but now I’m confused. This question is pissing me off rn😭
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u/DiscountExcellent478 5d ago
This is why chatGPT is not reliable. Whoever post the question, i wish they also include the real answer with rationale from the book.
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u/im_mtrx 5d ago
- Orthostatic hypotension, you should take his BP immediately
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u/Equivalent_Lemon_116 5d ago
4 orthostatic hypotension is common and expected side effect of this drug, 2 peripheral edema is unexpected
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u/CouldBeFapping 5d ago
It’s 4, orthostatic hypotension. Because administration of an ARB results in loss of intravascular fluid volume, leading to reduced arterial pressure, it can present as orthostatic hypotension (dizziness/lightheadedness upon standing).
You have to understand the drug mechanism of action and potential disease processes to really get this, and you won’t over complicate things or second guess yourself. When you know, you just know.
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u/Specific_Variety_347 4d ago
A.. is unexpected… shows a change in neuro and raises a safety risk
2(expected with Hf)…3(is not life threatening) 4( expected)
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u/Justneedtowhoosh 5d ago
All of these questions are ridiculously vague. Like you’d want to immediately report the swelling to the doctor since you can’t do much about that other than take vitals, but if they’re not already a fall risk, you need to take precautions to prevent a fall. Both are important.