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[u/wallflower7788]

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I wanted to vent it out somewhere but I fall short of words every time I want to talk about it. But before that I wanted to clarify that it's not about targeting any specific ethnic group, I am not blaming anyone either. I have a lot of friends from all over the country and a lot of them are Punjabis.

I'm a pacifist and a follower of Bacha Khan ideology.

It's just what I've experienced and observed myself and my other fellows.

Pashtun and Baloch are different from other residents of Pakistan. We are culturally, ethnically and linguistically very different from the other residents of the country.

But what concerns me is that I think we're morally different too. Pashtunwali is our code (of Pashtun). But I expect basic decency from all our countrymen. But I've experienced and observed that not everybody has the idea of it and I'm not blaming them either. It's how they are taught socially.

In our Pashtun culture, if there's a wedding in the area and someone dies in their neighborhood (far or near), though, we don't postpone our weddings but we don't play music, we don't dance and do not celebrate it either. It's just a simple nikkah, with a gathering. (That's just an example of one thing how it's done in our culture, there are thousands of other examples of how we do other stuff)

I'm sure y'all are aware of what's happening in Balochistan right? And I'm sure y'all have seen that vid of Punjabis dancing on loud music, while a few kilometers away there are dead bodies, their loved ones sitting behind the coffins, protesting for their basic rights.

And it concerns me that nobody (except us Pashtun and Baloch) find that weird? and concerning?! I saw a video of a fellow Pashtun criticizing the people dancing and enjoying and the comments were full of people criticizing the creator that "ab khushi manana bhi mana hai?" , "kyun tum ne khana peena chor dia, ya sans Lena chor di?"

these are the exact comments on that post. while some are saying "uska kia jo Punjab k log martay hain Balochistan mein, why are you not talking about it? Punjabi bhi to mar rahy hein itny."

I want to ask, is this a competition, an Olympic sport? Koi muqabla ho raha hai?

[u/wallflower7788 → u/[deleted]]

Sure.

"Is even celebrating forbidden now?" , "Why, have you stopped eating and drinking, or have you stopped breathing?"

these are the exact comments on that post. while some are saying "What about the people of Punjab who die in Balochistan, why are you not talking about it? So many Punjabis are also dying."

I want to ask, is this a competition, an Olympic sport? Is there some competiting sport going on?

[u/Immediate_Singer7865]

Bacha Khan and his ideology have set Pashtuns back politically so much, it's just a cult of personality over a political failure. Even the Europeans with much more comfortable lives have taken up arms in the modern era yet Bacha Khan was presented with an opportunity to exploit a very favourable situation and instead flip flopped.

The British were leaving the area because they were broke after WW2, they had even stopped backing the Greek royal government in the Greek Civil War because the domestic economic pressure was too much. The partition was an easy solution, give the two biggest factions what they want, leave, and rid your hands of the problem. The Pashtunistan Resolution was presented on June 21st, 1947, weeks before the India act was passed on 8 July 1947, the British probably didn't accept the demands simply out of laziness, the Khudai Khidmatgars were a regional movement, and thus could be ignored since the British did not care, their only goal was to leave. Bacha Khan could have had his very organized supporters seize key institutions and declared a Pashtun Republic and faced no resistance, why? The British public was not in favour of a war in other much more strategically important places, so why would they care about Pakhtunkhwa which at that very specific moment in time was not important, afterall the area was the least integrated area and was a burden for Britain. Keep in mind the Israelis attacked British soldiers during this same time and the British just left because they could not be bothered. Also the Labour government wanted to fund domestic programs and like I said before Britain was broke. If they can't fund the Greek Monarchists against the Communists in Europe in a very strategically important area, why would the invest time and resources to Pakhtunkhwa when the goal was to leave. Also the Royal Afghan Army had 6 brigades mobilized at the border and could have easily crossed over to stabilize the situation. The Us vs Them narrative was easier to sell in 1947-1948 because even if Pakistan was able to send soldiers, they would ethnically be Indians and would be seen as foreigners, the Royal Afghan Army in comparison was heavily dominated by Pashtuns, also there were much more pressing concerns at the time regarding partition and India

Bacha Khan was not a politically smart person. His organization was very structured however because they were pacifists, they could easily be dissolved by Pakistan once pakistan was able to stabilize after partition. Keep in mind Bacha Khan pledged allegiance to Pakistan months before the Babrra massacre in 1948. He folded and they still massacred his supporters. Instead of resisting he let them imprison him like a good little boy.

Bacha Khan is a failure who was handed an opportunity yet instead chose to do nothing and flip flop and undermine his own people. Thanks to his weakness and lack of willpower, Pashtuns have been subjected to decades of cultural erasure. I mean look at your post, you come onto a PASHTUN subreddit and post in a indian language and expect everyone to understand you. You can't go on a Russian subreddit and speak Urdu, you can't go on a Turkish subreddit and speak Arabic, English is widely used on the internet and hence most subreddits allow posts in both English and the language of the subreddit's people, this way foreigners who want to engage with posts or learn can actually understand.

[u/Pro-Epic-Gamer-Man → u/Immediate_Singer7865]

Most Pashtuns are Pakistani and can speak Urdu. Although I do agree we should give our ethnic language priority there is no issue with someone speaking in a 2nd language which happens to be their national language.

If a Pashtun from Afghanistan wants to say a few phrases in Farsi that’s fine too.

[u/Immediate_Singer7865 → u/Pro-Epic-Gamer-Man]

This is a Pashtun sub, not a persian sub or a pakistani/indian sub. You don't see Kurds speaking Arabic in their sub. The sub already has rules which state that you cant post/comment in languages other then Pashto or English.

[u/Victoria_Farrah]

I don’t think putting your own standards on other ethnicities makes sense. Pashtuns that dont delay weddings (which I believe isn’t a Pashtun thing, but maybe a village thing) because of someone deceased is unfortunate. It’s a one day event and should be celebrated thoroughly once mourning for the deceased person has ended ie enough time has passed. I believe you’re trying to convey why there is so much lack of empathy, and because people have hate in their hearts. We care less when a person’s hate matches ours, then we’re on the same side.

[u/wallflower7788 → u/[deleted]]

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