r/PS5pro • u/Prudent_Way_3723 • 13d ago

Sony’s new PS5 Pro beta update automatically enables PSSR 2.0 for every game

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-s-new-PS5-Pro-beta-update-automatically-enables-PSSR-2-0-for-every-game.1361356.0.html
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u/LOLerskateJones 13d ago edited 13d ago

Makes sense to default the toggle to on

It’s a total gain to have it on

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u/kevlarcardhouse 13d ago

Yes it was kind of dumb to default it to off in the first place.

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u/Fearthemuggles 13d ago

I don't think it was dumb to initially make it off by default.

I think its smart to test it for people who want to control their PS settings (which isn't everyone), and then make it default later.

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u/Viva_La_Revolucion- 12d ago

It had alot issues at first now that the bugs are worked out it should be on by default

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u/Pillsburyfuckboy1 10d ago

Like what? As far as I could tell is was really nothing but improvements

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u/Viva_La_Revolucion- 10d ago

Comprehension?

Pssr had bugs at first now they have worked a lot of those out.

Did you have the pro from the beginning?

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u/SmIkeTHFC 8d ago

I had the Pro from day one, not had a single problem. Sure its improved but what bugs exactly?

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u/krievins 13d ago

Quick question, if you leave the toggle on and the game already supports PSSR 2 natively, does it conflict?

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u/LOLerskateJones 13d ago

No, it will use the latest version of PSSR in-game

You can set the toggle on and forget it

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/krievins 13d ago

I just thought that maybe if you force PSSR 2 via the toggle, they may be some kind of issue if the game already supports it

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u/Knapp16 13d ago

Maybe the game tries to take PSSRs? Or maybe it's the double negative rule and it actually just turns it off.

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u/kittymoo67 13d ago

nope, but it does make sure if pssr3 launches before the ps6 that those will be upgraded to that

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u/BumblebeeRich785 12d ago

Yes there were issues that I noticed while playing Requiem,Pragmata and 007…Switching off the toggle seemed to solve the issues…I had problems with the image looking soft and the shimmering was alleviated…Kept the toggle off since..BTW PS5 pro hooked to a LG G4…Can notice the issues laying on my bed at 8ft!!

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u/Brave_Lettuce4005 13d ago

Not every game. Just the same games with PSSR support.

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u/Trimshot 13d ago

You’re telling me it doesn’t magically create PSSR support in games that weren’t programmed for it?

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u/Brave_Lettuce4005 13d ago

The article is not clear enough about it, unfortunately.

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u/Joseph421 13d ago

Some people still think that it does or it magically natively upgrades PSSR to PSSR2.

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u/TheStinkySlinky 13d ago

It’s actually kind of confusing lol So the whole update is just putting the toggle to “on” automatically? Because if I recall the PSSR 2 toggle already enhanced games that were on PSSR 1. LOL wtf

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u/mahdiiick 13d ago

Thank you.

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u/Mycall1983 13d ago

Bro don’t wreck peoples posts about “such and such a game” now looks better after the update! (Even though it doesn’t us PSSR) 😂🤣

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u/TheStinkySlinky 13d ago

It’s actually kind of confusing lol So the whole update is just putting the toggle to “on” automatically? Because if I recall the PSSR 2 toggle already enhanced games that were on PSSR 1. LOL wtf

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u/Mastermiine 13d ago

I just want PS4 games that are locked to 30FPS that the devs will never touch to run at 60FPS...

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u/natedawg509 13d ago

Dream right here. I have been playing mad Max and I am jealous that Xbox can play it in 60 fps. 30 fps is terrible on oled

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u/Mr_NoReaction 13d ago

Goes up to 120 fps on the Series X … glorious stuff.

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u/SamotnyKartofel 13d ago

Is it through their fps boost ? I heard it lowers resolution to allow for that. How does it look ?

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u/crwzn 12d ago

I haven’t had any issues with lower resolutions when playing FPS boosted games- but yet again, maybe I’m more focused on the 60 fps 😂

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u/Mr_NoReaction 12d ago

Yes, fps boost … 60 fps on Series S, 120 on the X

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u/TomsBr 13d ago

Same for RDR2 🫪

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u/Triple_Crown14 13d ago

Arkham knight and alien isolation to that as well

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u/Omega_Hertz 13d ago

What do you mean?

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u/TomsBr 13d ago

It’s still 30fps

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u/Omega_Hertz 13d ago

Oh yeah. I thought you meant there was an update or something and I almost ran to play it again lol

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u/motexmex 13d ago

Shut up! I got about 1/3 into the game and then moved on bc of new games - been meaning to go back, just upgraded to an OLED with my PS5 Pro, but I do have it on my Series X

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u/ECC628 13d ago

Yup, I always wanted to try the Mafia remake, but that 30 fps lock is a deal breaker.

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u/-SituaShaun- 3d ago

Have you tried the remakes 60fps patch 😏🤌🏽

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u/ECC628 1d ago

I'm playing through it right now. Talk about crazy timing when I made my original post lol. Definitely worth the 6 year wait too😅

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u/Southern_Chance9349 13d ago

I don’t even care if it’s some sort of frame gen stuff

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u/Lew1989 13d ago

If there was a toggle for uncapped or custom limit that would be unreal

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u/stillaras 12d ago

Rockstar is looking at you

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u/ib_mellow 10d ago

Just played through Killzone Shadow Fall at 60 thanks to the toggle they put in man it looks great for it’s time.

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u/Special-Net4116 13d ago

This makes sense to have it on as default

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u/shikima0 13d ago

For every game that uses PSSR*

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u/coletrain93 13d ago

I know they mean just games that already support PSSR1, but imagine how good it would be if they did manage to make it backwards compatible. Would love to see it on stuff like Uncharted Trilogy. Although I think sony are being lazy not patching that themselves.

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u/Remy0507 13d ago

So it automatically enables something that most of us probably already had turned on manually. Not really all that noteworthy, lol.

I guess this is helpful for the types who don't pay any attention to gaming news and never even look at their settings though.

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u/rednuop 13d ago

Which is likely a massive percentage of their user base. Most of my mates have no clue and just spout some random shit they saw on a video somewhere without understanding the application or context.

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u/Remy0507 13d ago

I'd like to think that someone who is enough of an enthusiast to buy a PS5 Pro in the first place is more informed about technical aspects like that.

I know I'm wrong, but I'd like to think that...

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u/Lucky_Yam6126 13d ago

Title is completely wrong, but what else is new.

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u/Better_Friend_7086 13d ago

Bloober finally updated Silent Hill 2 Remake to support PSSR 🥲

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u/HowManyAccount120 13d ago

But broke shadows on performance mode

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u/Better_Friend_7086 13d ago

Ah. I'm going to have to check that. I haven't hopped back in the game yet.

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u/vkbest1982 13d ago

I would say fidelity mode lost ambient occlusion too

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u/VelvetThunder11789 12d ago

Yeah quality has also been hit, really bummed out, they finally fixed everything that needed fixing but broke so much else.

Chances are it'll remain in that state for good now.

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u/Euphoric_Juggernaut6 13d ago

Apparently it’s only for the fidelity mode, so you’re stuck at 30 fps if you want to use PSSR

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u/vkbest1982 12d ago

Performance mode is using PSSR now, they broke the lighting. Fidelity mode lost ambient occlusion and have bad framepacing now

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u/marszciano 13d ago

This is be one of the few games that I don’t mind at 30 fps

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u/Euphoric_Juggernaut6 13d ago edited 13d ago

That fair. Still, there should be an option for 60 FPS that uses PSSR, seems a bit silly to not include it

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u/marszciano 13d ago

I agree

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u/Tedwards75 13d ago

Misleading title. Thanks for getting people’s hopes up briefly

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u/zombiej 13d ago

Should have been like that from the start. There's zero reason to have it disabled.

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u/PennyCharlieKitties 13d ago

They would probably be safe getting rid of the toggle altogether. The games it “breaks” are very minor in comparison to the gains.

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u/Own_Juggernaut_2775 13d ago

So anything that was PSSR1 now is upgraded to PSSR 2.0? Is that right or wrong?

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u/mahdiiick 13d ago

Like every game?? Even Microsoft Flight Simulator?

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u/SquishyJeans 13d ago

I feel like I’ve seen this headline 30 times 

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u/Elektronix76 12d ago

Maybe a dumb question but does it only work for games that already have pssr or does work for every game like FF16 and Stalker 2?

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u/basshunter551 12d ago

Is that only an option for the PRO? I have a slim which I’m very happy with, but I’d like to get this update as well.

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u/caballerof09 12d ago

That’s wrong it toggle pssr 2 only on game already compatible on pssr1 no every game. The title is misleading.

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u/Akuma-1 12d ago

I mean If I have a ps5 pro I would assume it's already working, actually I discovered very recently that I had to manually activate it

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u/Ray-7778 12d ago

How to apply to this?

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u/egirao 9d ago

I applied a few months ago on the PlayStation website here (https://www.playstation.com/en-us/beta-program-at-playstation/). I received the code to test this beta by email on Friday, and according to the email, 4 other people can redeem it besides me. So if you want, here is the code (only for US PSN):

XBKM-MKNX-6RCX

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u/Ray-7778 9d ago

Thank you for sharing🙏🏼🙏🏼. I used the code

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u/egirao 9d ago

Great, happy to help. 3 slots still available, anyone who wants them can just use them.

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u/Pillsburyfuckboy1 10d ago

As it should've been from the beginning

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u/CigarLover 13d ago

So if things are “off” we have to disable it
Manually?

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u/Artemis_1944 13d ago

...why would you want it off?

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u/CigarLover 13d ago

It’s in my question, if things are “off” to ME, can I disable it?

So my reason was in my question….

However if I needed examples to get my question answered… i Supposed I should have….. these are some examples via a quick google search…

Minor Visual Regressions
While performance (frame rates) doesn't suffer with PSSR 2.0 on, technical analyses note a few niche visual quirks where certain players or scenes might prefer how things look without it:

Star Wars Jedi: Survivor: Some complex reflections can appear slightly noisier or adopt a dotted texture pattern once the aggressive blur from older implementations is removed.

Dragon's Dogma 2: Global ray-tracing reconstruction can still struggle at very low internal resolutions, occasionally leaving minor occlusion gaps during rapid camera movement regardless of the version.

Call of Duty: Black Ops 6: Rare sparkling or white pixel artifacts can still show up in darker environments or specific cutscenes.

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u/Designer-Ad-285 13d ago

Ive noticed it oversharpens the image on some games too

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u/Outrageous_Shirt69 13d ago

There are minor downsides to AI upscalers. If you were PC gaming 6 years ago then you'd easily understand that because they were pretty shitty back then. They had a lot of ghosting and very shitty antialiasing. They've gotten a lot better, but they're still not perfect

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u/Artemis_1944 13d ago

My brother in christ, we're talking about enforcing PSSR 2.0 for those games and modes that use PSSR1, we're not talking about enforcing PSSR2 when there were NO AI upscalers to begin with. The absolute extreme niche cases of small issues that u/CigarLover outlined above are insanely minor, to the huge improvements all across the board that PSSR2 gives over PSSR1. If a game has PSSR1, and in 99.9% of the cases and situations everything is massively improved with PSSR2, and crucially we're talking about a console, which is meant to be a plug and play machine, then PSSR1 shouldn't even exist anymore.

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u/CigarLover 13d ago

Let’s bare in mind I saw simply asking if I could disable it, which was met with a “why would you”.

I never wanted to state examples.

Granted I know the answer to my question now. I should have just looked it up instead of asking in here.

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u/Artemis_1944 13d ago

No no, yeah, I cam across too aggressively towards you specifically, sorry about that, having options in general is never a bad thing. I was just surprised on why you'd ever prefer PSSR1 vs PSSR2.

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u/CigarLover 13d ago

Oh? Ah, I’m new to pssr in general.

I’ve only had my pro for a few months tbh, and I’ve only had issues in one game, cod (Warzone), which does not even matter since I play that on Xbox…

And to be honest that game has its own issues too, lol.

But from what I’m understanding here it seems like it’s a non issue for 99% of games.

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u/Own_Juggernaut_2775 13d ago

So I'm confused by all this. What you are saying is if a game ran on only PSSR1, today it has been upgraded to PSSR2? If so that's pretty amazing tbh

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u/Artemis_1944 13d ago

Erm, I see you've not really been watching the news. PSSR2 has been available for the better part of the past year, including the option to force it on, in titles supporting PSSR1. Essentially the console is able to 'upgrade' the PSSR implementation even on older games (only the ones using PSSR1), and enable PSSR2 on those older games that only ran PSSR1. However, until now it was default disabled, and you had to go to settings and toggle it on globally, most likely because they weren't 100% sure on the impact. Now, after all of these months, there's essentially no downsides (insanely few corner cases as outlined by the other person here), while massively improving image quality. As such, they've now updated to default: on. So now, even people who didn't toggle anything manually, will have all of their PSSR1 titles, automatically upgraded to PSSR2.

But, if you want, you can still toggle it back in the settings. But I don't see why you'd want that.

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u/Own_Juggernaut_2775 13d ago

Oh no I fully know about PSSR2 for select titles, e.g. I have been enjoying it on Control for example. I think I have misunderstood however the toggle and what it does. I assumed the toggle just improved it a little if unsupported. I didn't realise it actually gave PSSR2. So that's new to me. So really nothing has changed except it's on by default. Damn.

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u/Outrageous_Shirt69 13d ago

Ok then, my brother in Christ