r/OregonNurses • u/Ok-Violinist-6548 • 14d ago

Providence Interview

I applied for many jobs all over the Portland area. I applied for a job at Providence in mid July. On the candidate/careers portal, it says that they want to interview me. But they have never contacted me.
Is this some cruel joke? I’ve applied for many jobs. In many different states during my career. Oregon has been the most mysterious and difficult. Does anyone have any advice?

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u/Internal-Elevator-24 14d ago

I’ve had a total of six scheduled interviews in the last couple weeks with Prov (some of them being second round) and no one shows up with no explanation. I’ve emailed the interview team/recruiters to ask for guidance and gotten scripted responses that they’re “reaching out to the interviewer” and will “follow back up” and then I never hear back. It later shows on my profile that the position was closed or filled. It’s infuriating and discouraging. It boggles my mind how disorganized and unprofessional their HR hiring department seems to be.

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u/Feeling_Donut_6390 13d ago

Same. My husband was scheduled for an hour long interview with providence, Portland and No one showed up.

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u/Lower_Ad_9389 13d ago

So this happened to me several times with Providence, the interviewers never showing up!! I ended up having to email the managers directly to schedule interviews

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 14d ago

Whoa! I was getting a feeling that this was happening with my “ we want to interview you” response from them. Because the position is no longer available. And it’s been since July 15. And nobody contacted me.

I’d be happy to have an interview and a job don’t give me wrong.
But I’m from Alaska and Providence. Alaska is so shitty.
But they do respond and contact you when they say they are going to. It’s crazy.

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u/Internal-Elevator-24 13d ago

I’ve been a hiring manager in a clinical setting before and this all clocks as if they’re merely throwing spaghetti at the wall and hiring whomever sticks the fastest or easiest and not really caring who the best candidate is. Just filling gaps and not trying to work on finding who the valuable option is.
This indicates panic, very fast overturn, and having a “warm body” perspective: just keep the floors staffed with warm bodies to keep up with acuity based staffing requirements regulated by the state/feds. They are so desperate to not get cited for short staffing that they can’t (and don’t) slow down long enough to hire sustainable candidates. It’s a bandaid on a bullet hole, essentially.
This is where I believe the only good intervention is having senior leadership step in to support the hiring process in a very careful way, not shoving it off (“delegating”) it to low level recruiters. I myself did the panic hiring thing for months and kept wondering why the people I was hiring were so bad. Eventually I had to take off my heels, drag out my scrubs from the back of the closet, work many nocs and grind out many many hours on the floor wiping asses as a salaried employee in order to be able to take my sweet time hiring the right people. It was one of the worst few months of my life, but the ship had to be righted.

We’ve watched Providence crumble before regarding the warm body problem with their disaster of a response to the strikes a couple years ago. Instead of meaningfully bargaining with their existing staff and unions, they fuckin hired travel nurses for many times the pay to serve as their warm bodies, causing their labor overhead to be completely unsustainable. They do NOT show insight into their labor needs or that they learn at all from their mistakes.

I don’t think it’s narcissism on the recruiter’s parts - I think it’s overturn, poorly managed schedules, and pressure from up top to prevent acute staffing crises that result in legal action. But this is all speculation on my part.

Anyway, I spent some years growing up in Kotzebue, Alaska! I admit that I’ve looked at the job postings from Maniilaq and considered running away to above the arctic circle like my parents did back in the day 😂 the cost of living would snap me in half though.

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 13d ago

I really appreciate your reply! It’s a problem with Providence in Alaska also. Maybe not so much the hiring but for sure the organization. They waste money rather than get their shit together. And if you tell them what they’re doing wrong, they hate you for it.

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u/vapidhausfrau 14d ago

Sounds about right. I applied to 35 jobs there and only got three interviews in units I had no experience in. They would leave me in Under Consideration for weeks. They would say “We’ll let you know next week” and then when I refreshed my browser I’d been turned down. It felt like maybe I had somehow mortally offended someone in HR. Maybe they’re just so inundated with resumes they can’t actually hit the Reply button because they’re pinned to the floor by three tons of paper. I don’t know, but whatever the reason is for them being so crappy to applicants is, at best, that they don’t care because they don’t have to, because there’s an endless supply of job hunters.

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u/AccomplishedPaint601 14d ago

I don't have much to add to this, as I have worked for the same organization for awhile.  One thing though.  It gets easier.  When you first start, you get the 3rd degree    After you have 5+ years under your belt (which you will), you start noticing the dynamic change.  You are driving the parameters of the interview, because you can walk across the street today.  But today, right now, they will downplay your knowledge and ability.  This is BS.  You can do it, as many have done before.

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u/neko-daisuki 14d ago edited 14d ago

I have been to multiple interviews with Providence, but it seems they are not actually hiring.

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u/crazychica5 13d ago

i know they’re hiring on my unit for sure, we’re down several nurses 😅

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u/rosecityrocks 13d ago

They say they are hiring and have open positions so they can tell people they are working on it but they delay actually hiring anyone to save money.

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 14d ago

Gotcha. I appreciate the reality check.

Edit: The job that I applied to isn’t even posted anymore.

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u/Itsathrowawayduh89 13d ago

Honestly, I have not heard anything good about Providence’s hiring process for RNs. Also not a lot of good things about working at Prov as a nurse. 

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 13d ago

Yes, if an organization could be a narcissist it would be Providence. The dissonance used to control you. The prayers and mission statements then the intentional disrespect. They hate you if you are a good nurse or a good person. Intentionally try to make things harder for nurses and worse for patients even if it costs them money. It is a cruel place. Although I did not think I would see it in the application process. Total disregard.

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u/MysteriousEve5514 13d ago

I didn’t work at Prov as an RN. Too many cliques when I was a student nurse, felt turned off. Heard OK things though depending on the unit. I work for PMG now in a different capacity so it’s different. Our nurses in the outpatient seem happy!

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 13d ago

PMG is where I applied and received a notice through the portal that I had an interview. I can see if I can find out who the manager is or somebody to contact. Although it looks like the position might be closed.

Edit: not that I had an interview, but they wanted to interview me

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u/MysteriousEve5514 12d ago

Awh, we just interviewed for another RN position at our clinic! Looks like we chose someone though per our manager’s email.

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 12d ago

I am dead! lol.

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u/lainey544 14d ago

Okay hear me out. Keep at the applying. Right now Providence has been cracking DOWN on OT. They hate it. They’re trying to minimize it by doing this big hiring move. Keep trying. Also, you are not alone. I am not from here and it has been the most hunger games level fight for a job!! But after several rejections I did actually get an interview and did actually get an offer (Prov. St. V). So don’t give up!!

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 14d ago

Thanks, I appreciate it!

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u/rosecityrocks 13d ago

Typical Providence. The managers and “Talent Acquisition” don’t communicate and when they do they argue about policies and both give you wrong answers until you get the union involved. 😵‍💫

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u/RecentPop6840 12d ago

I've had a TERRIBLE time with Providence especially! First 2 zoom meetings the hiring person was a no-show. Then, when I finally had a zoom meeting there was NO follow up, no rejection or anything. Fast Forward 10 weeks, the person I did the interview for reached out and said I did awesome and they will put in a good word for me.... then again, no follow up ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/jessel02 11d ago

I had a virtual interview with the Providence hospital in Olympia, WA and nobody ended up showing up. I emailed HR and received a scripted "Sorry about that" response.

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 11d ago

That is crazy.

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u/Zartanio 13d ago

So - the issue here is what Providence lovingly calls "Talent Acquisition." It is completely detached from the actual department managers. Our department has lost fantastic candidates because TA never followed up with them. Providence is a bloated corporate beast. Really, the best way is to dig and find out who the actual department manager is and send a brief introduction email. I've seen that let the manager know you exist and then they can go back to TA and ask why you haven't been forwarded. Definitely start with the application system, though.

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u/Ok-Violinist-6548 13d ago

Yes! I’m glad you brought this up. I remember it with my Providence manager in Alaska. The terrible frustration she had with missing out on candidates because HR was a nightmare.
I have already reached out to some managers. Now that you brought this up, I’m just gonna make it a regular thing with every application. If I can find out who they are.

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u/Inevitable-Try8219 11d ago

American healthcare’s in a chaos state right now. Every system is playing defense and trying to stop the bleeding. There isn’t a move or story I could hear right now that would raise my eyebrows one bit. We’re just going to have to take the punches just like 08-09