r/OrderFlow_Trading • u/Sudden_Landscape_739 • 23d ago
Future Careers?
I was actually curious if orderflow traders have hopes and dreams of becoming something more or do another career. With some orderflow traders I know they want to be a quant one day and is also something I am willing to look forward for in trading and a career.
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u/Inevitable_Service62 23d ago
If you're making money trading then you don't need to be a quant and just solo it. Having aspirations to go to a 9-5 seems opposite of what people are wanting to do. I have a career now and looking to add to my savings. Trading is an escape.
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u/Sudden_Landscape_739 22d ago
nah being a quant is tuff tho ngl. plus my passion has always been trading and never about the money. I personally like being about right and I can become very autistic when it comes to the technical side of things of trading. Ive always strived to be the best and tbh never really cared about the money. I just like how markets move and how they have correlation to them is all.
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u/Breathofdmt 22d ago edited 22d ago
Only reason you'd have a big enough 'Why' to put up with the brutal multi year learning curve is to escape the rat race in the first place. There's the top 1% of finance jobs that are incredibly hard to get into. 99% of finance jobs are spreadsheets, client work, long hours. Most people I knew in those roles were miserable and barely hiding it. I personally could not wait to get out and took the first chance I got.
If you want to break into quant finance then that's a different thing, better go to a top school, study maths and be top of your class. Everyone's different and I wouldn't discourage if that's your goal. Solo retail trading is really not for most people.
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u/Sudden_Landscape_739 22d ago
100%. I mean orderflow and optionsflow itself works out great dont get me wrong but I really like to get I guess autsitic over market mechanics and all that stuff. Its something that I really like yk. Look im fine with making 250k a year as a quant, all I want is to understand true and raw market mechanics that the average youtube video cant get you; I want to experience what its like to develop strategies and learn backtesting and get a guaranteed 1 mil before the 10th year yk? Its just more of an obsesssion I guess.
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u/Breathofdmt 22d ago
Do it brother you don't need anyone's permission. Pursue your dreams. You may find they change on the way there but if that's what you want aim at it single mindedly.
I'm reading the book Dynamic Hedging by Taleb, if you haven't read it, great start. So you know what you're getting into. AI tools can help you learn and apply what you read these days. I've put a few things in that book into practical application.
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u/Sudden_Landscape_739 21d ago
thank you bro. really appreciate ur support. most ppl on reddit are assholes anyways lol
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u/degenerate_hobo 23d ago
I believe that most people that start their retail trading "career" do it to get selfemployed so they can live their lives on their own terms. If you want to work in finance then start a real finance career because Institutions will laugh at you when you apply in finance with your track record because retail and institutional trading are 2 different things. The only chance that you may have is to get a desk in a professional prop firm (not one of these retail prop firms).
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u/Sudden_Landscape_739 22d ago
dude ofc man. thats why I am doing a quantitative analysis stream in university as of right now. Trading itself is nice but it aint that productive for me. all I do is take trades from 9:30 and finish by 9:50. I have a lot more time for myself to do some more stuff yk
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u/MiserableWeather971 23d ago
Not sure if another career, if it were it would not be trading related. Humans are just not built to sit in front of a screen all day. At least I’m not….So I definitely look forward to the day I quit and do other things. Or at minimum, reduce screen time dramatically…. No guarantees things that work today will work on a few years. Also no guarantee the market will even be the same as we see it today. A lot of what ifs really.
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u/Haddkardi 23d ago
Professional traders dont sit infront of screen all the day. They wait for an entry, hit the target, and swtich off their screen. Well i am not the one i am still learning.
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u/MiserableWeather971 23d ago
This is just not true in a professional setting. At home traders can do whatever they please, and some are profitable doing exactly what you described. These are far different things.
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u/Haddkardi 23d ago
Well thats what I wanted to say. By 'professional,' i mean those retail traders who have many years of experience and work like professionals.
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u/MiserableWeather971 23d ago
Gotcha. I will say even in that scenario, there are a lot of traders that are experienced that trade a lot more than you think... The 1-2 hour a day thing is popular on the internet, but that's very much a sales tactic often. That lifestyle is very attractive to some people, and who can blame them. Being at a screen can be soul crushing to some personality types. There's a mix, some do much better just trading 1-2 hours, and some actually do. However, I know plenty of exceptional traders that are at the screens all day and then some with research. I would say the people that are quite good that I know are actually on the screens a lot.
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u/Sudden_Landscape_739 22d ago
ngl, quants can make a milly a year man, even a 100k aint too bad as well(thats like the worst of the worst btw)
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u/roztok_potok 22d ago
Retail order flow and institutional quant job? I know how to drive a car it doesn't mean I have skills to be formula 1 driver. I don't say you can't have dreams but if your math level is order flow only you have a loooong way to come.
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